US threatens to annex Greenland - 2025/2026

[Inthedetails]

At this point, I am afraid, the only cure for the NATO is to extricate the USofA from it. The USofA became a threat and they are very unwilling to see anything else but very warped American interest. We, European part of the NATO need to start relying on each other and work together to make Europe more stable and safer. IMO, of course.

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And he will say that's what he has wanted all along - for USA to get out of NATO and Europeans to fend for themselves.

He will declare victory no matter what happens.

jmo

 

[otto]

The world needs to ask the question: if 32 NATO countries including the US are prepared to provide security in the Arctic and around Greenland, why does the United States assert that they can do it better alone? Common sense says that's not true ... so security is not the reason for wanting Greenland. The US is proposing a hostile takeover of a sovereign nation in order to steal natural resource wealth without respecting the people, culture, and environmental law.

"We've come here after some, how shall I put it, remarkable public statements about Greenland," Rasmussen began. "We haven't succeeded in changing the American position." Although the countries haven't come any closer, he called the conversation "open and constructive."

It's clear that the US president maintains his desire to conquer Greenland.
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Rasmussen also referred to this during his press conference. He said Denmark has already stepped up its defenses. "Not with dog sleds, but with ships, fighter jets, and drones."
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Denmark and Greenland announced today that they will immediately increase their military presence in and around Greenland. Sweden, Norway, and Germany are also sending troops to the area.

Topoverleg Groenland voorbij: 'Niet opgelost, nog steeds fundamentele meningsverschillen'

Het overleg heeft niets concreets opgeleverd, liet de Deense buitenlandminister weten. Wel komt er een werkgroep om verder te praten over de toekomst van Groenland.

nos.nl

https://twitter.com/x/status/2011476301060702329

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[Herat]

DBM

 

[otto]

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And he will say that's what he has wanted all along - for USA to get out of NATO and Europeans to fend for themselves.

He will declare victory no matter what happens.

jmo

Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Commonwealth Nations, and the EU anticipated that the United States intends to be hostile towards Western Countries, and have laid the groundwork to move forward without the United States. It's unfortunate, but everyone can see the writing on the wall ... while the United States government sleep-walks into a country where one man appears to unilaterally make all decisions.

~ in my humble opinion ~​

 

[otto]

The issue might be that not everyone at the negotiating table is a "democratic" partner?

The US "democratic" partner has to cooperate with NATO and the global economy, or there will be war in Greenland ... a war started by the united states against a sovereign NATO country and the Kingdom of Denmark. Canada knows it will be next, but Canada will never agree to giving up our quality of life for a few US dollars. Therefore, Canada must stand with Greenland.

"Denmark and Greenland are immediately expanding their military presence in and around Greenland. This includes aircraft, ships, and troops. The countries announced this shortly before their meeting in Washington.

Swedish Prime Minister Kristersson says several Swedish troops are arriving in Greenland today. The troops are part of a group of allies sending troops to Greenland at Denmark's request. He did not specify how many troops or which countries they were from."
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US President Trump wants to take over Greenland, part of the Danish kingdom. "Whether they like it or not." The European Parliament said in a statement today that it "unequivocally condemns" the Trump administration's statements.

The EU has labeled the statements a "flagrant violation" of international law, the UN Charter, and the sovereignty and territorial integrity of a NATO ally. "Such statements are unacceptable and have no place in relations between democratic partners."
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In today's statement, the EU referred to the 1916 treaty the US concluded with Denmark, in which the US recognised that Denmark had full sovereignty over Greenland."

Denemarken en Groenland kondigen verhoogde militaire aanwezigheid aan

De buitenlandministers van de landen voerden in Washington topoverleg met de Amerikaanse vicepresident Vance en buitenlandminister Rubio.

nos.nl

~ in my humble opinion ~​

 

[otto]

In my humble opinion, I think this means that Denmark and Greenland are invoking NATO Article 5.

"The European Parliament calls the European Commission and the European Council to define concrete and tangible support to Greenland and Denmark, upholding EU principles and law, international law and the NATO Charter."

EP group leaders unequivocally support Greenland and Denmark | News | European Parliament

This Wednesday, the Conference of Presidents adopted the following statement in support of multilateralism and the rules-based international order and supporting Greenland and Denmark.

www.europarl.europa.eu

 

[Summerliz03]

I’m not sure if this article has been discussed here, it’s from last April but seems fitting to share now as well.

Exclusive: Greenland ‘Freedom City’? Rich donors push Trump for a tech hub up north

It is described as 'a libertarian utopia with minimal corporate regulation.'

www.reuters.com

 

[otto]

I’m not sure if this article has been discussed here, it’s from last April but seems fitting to share now as well.

Exclusive: Greenland ‘Freedom City’? Rich donors push Trump for a tech hub up north

It is described as 'a libertarian utopia with minimal corporate regulation.'

www.reuters.com

Good luck with that. Ensuring that technology and machinery works in cold weather is something altogether foreign for the California tech crowd. They should build their tech Utopia in Florida, where they understand climate.

 

[Inthedetails]

Good luck with that. Ensuring that technology and machinery works in cold weather is something altogether foreign for the California tech crowd. They should build their tech Utopia in Florida, where they understand climate.

They could operate data centers there, imo. I posted a link upthread that Denmark might also be eyeing Greenland for data centers.

jmo

 

[Kaley Smith]

Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Commonwealth Nations, and the EU anticipated that the United States intends to be hostile towards Western Countries, and have laid the groundwork to move forward without the United States. It's unfortunate, but everyone can see the writing on the wall ... while the United States government sleep-walks into a country where one man appears to unilaterally make all decisions.

~ in my humble opinion ~​

I was quite confident these countries would unite against the US, although I'm surprised at how quickly. Pleasantly surprised. We are sending a message and hoping there are enough good Americans with power and clout to stop Trump's expansionist goals. I know my country, Canada, is prepared to go to war to prevent the US from taking us over if we have to. Many, many of us have parents and grandparents who went overseas to fight for freedom and democracy in the world wars, so the idea is not really that foreign to us.

 

[otto]

They could operate data centers there, imo. I posted a link upthread that Denmark might also be eyeing Greenland for data centers.

jmo

Environmental law would govern use of massive amounts of freshwater for AI data storage. Salt water data centers are fine, but they deteriorate faster.

 

[otto]

I was quite confident these countries would unite against the US, although I'm surprised at how quickly. Pleasantly surprised. We are sending a message and hoping there are enough good Americans with power and clout to stop Trump's expansionist goals. I know my country, Canada, is prepared to go to war to prevent the US from taking us over if we have to. Many, many of us have parents and grandparents who went overseas to fight for freedom and democracy in the world wars, so the idea is not really that foreign to us.

Whatever was said today at the meeting shocked Greenland and Denmark enough that troops are being deployed to Greenland immediately.

Canada knows it's next if the United States tramples Greenland and Denmark. It's tremendously unfortunate that the US government is shifting to a warring country.

"We've come here after some, how shall I put it, remarkable public statements about Greenland," Rasmussen began."

Topoverleg Groenland voorbij: 'Niet opgelost, nog steeds fundamentele meningsverschillen'

Het overleg heeft niets concreets opgeleverd, liet de Deense buitenlandminister weten. Wel komt er een werkgroep om verder te praten over de toekomst van Groenland.

nos.nl

 

[otto]

While the US government is watching imaginary ships sailing past Greenland, Canada is in China re-establishing a trade relationship.

 

[otto]

This decision looks like a green-light for the US government to initiate military action against the Kingdom of Denmark and Greenland. The problem is that the US government reacted after the fact, and then decided they don't really care about a military invasion of Venezuela.

A responsible government would take action beforehand.

Today is the time for the government to decide that military attack against Greenland is not okay. After the fact is useless, but it looks like those who can make a difference are unwilling to make a difference ... at this time.

"A resolution aimed at limiting President Trump's options to attack Venezuela was rejected by the US Senate by a narrow margin of 51 votes to 50.

The resolution would have prohibited Trump from further military action in Venezuela without Congressional approval. But Republican senators voted against it on Wednesday."

Senaat stemt toch in Trumps voordeel: militaire macht niet ingeperkt

Eerder deze week keurde een kleine meerderheid van de Senaat de resolutie nog goed.

nos.nl

~ in my humble opinion ~​

 

[TootsieFootsie]

France to send troops for European security mission to Greenland amid Trump threats

France and Germany announced Wednesday they will deploy troops to Greenland as part of a European security mission, following renewed threats by US President Donald Trump to take control of the Arctic…

www.france24.com

France to send troops for European security mission to Greenland amid Trump threats​

France and Germany announced Wednesday they will deploy troops to Greenland as part of a European security mission, following renewed threats by US President Donald Trump to take control of the Arctic island. The move, made at Denmark’s request, comes after high-level talks in Washington involving US, Danish and Greenlandic officials.

 

[Andreee]

dbm

 

[SouthAussie]

Whatever was said today at the meeting shocked Greenland and Denmark enough that troops are being deployed to Greenland immediately.

Apparently .... Denmark says it has "agreed to disagree" with the United States over the future of Greenland after a meeting with top White House officials, but repeated that a US takeover of the territory is "totally unacceptable".

"We have decided to form a high-level working group to explore if we can find a common way forward.
"The group, in our view, should focus on how to address the American security concerns, while at the same time respecting the red lines of the Kingdom of Denmark."

Mr Rasmussen would not say if the meeting led to any sort of compromise, saying it was not the "proper place to elaborate".

European nations send troops to Greenland as White House talks fail

The United States and Denmark continue to disagree over the future of Greenland after a meeting at the White House amid ongoing threats from President Donald Trump threatening to seize the semi-autonomous Danish territory for national security reasons.

www.abc.net.au

 

[TootsieFootsie]

MSN

Euronews

European troops arrive in Greenland as US and Denmark talks fail to resolve dispute​

European military personnel began arriving in Greenland on Thursday, hours after a meeting between US, Danish and Greenlandic officials in Washington failed to resolve what Denmark's foreign minister called "fundamental disagreement" over the mineral-rich Arctic island.

France, Sweden, Germany and Norway announced Wednesday they would deploy military personnel as part of a reconnaissance mission to Greenland's capital Nuuk.

 

[otto]

Let's go back to the beginning when the US government demanded ownership of the Panama Canal in 2025. Trade Routes. Then the US demanded ownership of Canada in 2025. Future Trade Routes: Arctic Shipping Lanes. Next, the US demanded ownership of Greenland in 2026. The Arctic represents trade routes of the future.

The problem for the US is that their country is too far South to be a major player in Arctic trade routes. The US has a little piece of the Arctic next to Russia (Alaska), but most land is waaay down South. The US appears to be upset that it is not a major player in future Arctic Shipping Lanes. The US can control Arctic trade routes to the West (Alaska), but has no control over routes from Canada to points East.

That appears to have made the US government really mad - mad enough to wage Economic War against Canada, and to threaten military aggression against the Kingdom of Denmark and Greenland. Given the aggression from the US against NATO countries, especially Canada, Denmark and Greenland, it's possible that the US wants full authoritarian control of Arctic Shipping Lanes to impose tax, or tariff (get RICH RICH RICH), on any country using the Arctic Shipping Lanes.

In the first exercise, the following countries will have military representation in Greenland before the weekend (info from various articles):

France
Germany
Norway
UK
the Netherlands
Finland
Estonia

"A 15-strong French military contingent has arrived in Greenland's capital Nuuk, as several European states send soldiers there as part of a so-called reconnaissance mission.

The deployment, which will also include personnel from Germany, Sweden, Norway, the Netherlands and the UK, comes as US President Donald Trump continues to press his claim to the Arctic island, which is a semi-autonomous part of Denmark.

French President Emmanuel Macron said the initial contingent would be reinforced soon with "land, air, and sea assets".
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"The president's ambition is on the table," the Danish diplomat told Fox News. "Of course we have our red lines. This is 2026, you trade with people but you don't trade people."
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"Greenland does not want to be owned by the United States. Greenland does not want to be governed by the United States. Greenland does not want to be part of the United States," he stressed."

European military personnel arrive in Greenland as Trump says US needs island

France says a small military contingent has arrived and more forces will be there in the coming days.

www.bbc.com

~ in my humble opinion ~​

 

[Inthedetails]

Apparently .... Denmark says it has "agreed to disagree" with the United States over the future of Greenland after a meeting with top White House officials, but repeated that a US takeover of the territory is "totally unacceptable".

"We have decided to form a high-level working group to explore if we can find a common way forward.
"The group, in our view, should focus on how to address the American security concerns, while at the same time respecting the red lines of the Kingdom of Denmark."

Mr Rasmussen would not say if the meeting led to any sort of compromise, saying it was not the "proper place to elaborate".

European nations send troops to Greenland as White House talks fail

The United States and Denmark continue to disagree over the future of Greenland after a meeting at the White House amid ongoing threats from President Donald Trump threatening to seize the semi-autonomous Danish territory for national security reasons.

www.abc.net.au

It looks like the USA administration is stringing them along, tbh.


jmo