Found Deceased UT-5 -Year-Old Elizabeth Shelley Found Deceased (UNCLE ARRESTED) #4

[JustEve]

http://www.abc4.com/news/local-news/records-alex-whipple-was-investigated-in-2016-for-allegedly-assaulting-stepbrother/2040406723
LOGAN, Utah (ABC4 News) - Police records obtained by ABC4 News show a troubled past for accused child killer Alex Whipple, including alleged violence against another family member in 2016.

According to a police report, officers responded to 1400 N. 400 W. in Logan on March 24, 2016, and spoke with Mary Beth, who was the victim's mother.

Mary Beth indicated to police that her fiance's son, Alex Whipple, physically assaulted her son when Alex asked to borrow the victim's cell phone and the victim would not give it to him.


According to the report, Mary stated her son was on a phone call at the time Whipple, who was very upset, asked to use the cell phone. When Mary confronted Whipple about his behavior, Whipple began punching "yelling and punching walls," according to the document obtained by ABC4 News.

The report states that Whipple put holes in the walls, and then stormed into the victim's room and began punching him in the face and stomach, fleeing the house on foot.

The report indicates that Whipple's family did not know where he would go for the night, indicating at the time he was working at Blimpie's. A police officer indicated in the report that he would make contact with Whipple the next day to arrest him for assault.

Court documents show Whipple was charged with domestic violence assault for the incident.

Thank you for posting it for us who have restricted access due to EU laws on privacy.

Reading this, oh my... So much anger and such a poor impulse control...
It sounds like some kind of outburst was predictable by that time. But who exactly was supposed to predict that and how? And what should that person do?
Oh, Jesus. I am so sad for little Lizzy. Poor baby.

 

[kgreg2529]

2016 conviction already confirmed.

This report says is he was investigated -- could be same incident or additional.

AW is an alleged murderer of a 5 year old child -- I don't need to know more.... MOO


LOGAN — Shortly after Logan police launched the search for 5-year-old Elizabeth Shelley on Saturday, they said they found evidence near her residence that linked Alex Whipple, the girl's uncle, to the missing child.

"These items have been forensically tested and they do link Mr. Whipple to our missing child, Elizabeth. They also have evidence that links them to the residence that they were in," Logan Police Capt. Tyson Budge said Monday.

"(It) also links them together outside the home. We have several of these scenes that we have located that have evidentiary items in that we have now tested and have evidence that they were together."
[...]

Search warrants have been served at the missing girl's residence and samples were taken from Whipple himself, he said.

Evidence collected thus far points to Whipple, according to the captain.

"Since the very beginning of this investigation we have enough information and enough evidence we believe that Alex Whipple was involved in the disappearance of Elizabeth Shelley. We're putting together a case and as soon as we have more information, we'll make that available to you," Budge said.
[...]

Whipple was booked into the Cache County Jail for investigation of failure to disclose identity, possession of a controlled substance and drug paraphernalia, possession of a dangerous weapon by a restricted person and other potential charges. Previous court records list his address as Providence, Cache County.

Whipple has a criminal history. In 2016, he was convicted of assault in an incident of domestic violence involving a "cohabitant," according to state court records. He was convicted of joyriding in another case that year. He was charged with possession of a controlled substance in 2017.

Also in 2017, Whipple stole a car from his neighbor and led Utah Highway Patrol troopers on a 40-mile chase while driving under the influence of alcohol, according to court records. He finally stopped after police in Orem spiked his tires. He was arrested as he tried to run away.

He was sentenced to prison on March 19, 2018, but the prison term was suspended and he was ordered to serve 180 days in jail and five years of probation. Terms of his probation include no alcohol, no illegal drugs and drug testing and no violations of other laws, according to a court docket.
Evidence ties uncle to missing 5-year-old Utah girl, police say

Wow, someone dropped the ball with that suspended sentence and probation.

 

[JustEve]

Mary Whipple is the "Step-Mother" not AW's "Mother". In my experience as a former teacher and counselor, 50% of mixed families with step parents, step children, want to get rid of the other kids. Imagine if both of your parents were with people who didn't want you around.

No excuses for AW, but his life might actually improve in prison. Sadly.

BBM: This.
Yes. Absolutely.

 

[AgeofAquaruis]

Thank you for posting it for us who have restricted access due to EU laws on privacy.

Reading this, oh my... So much anger and such a poor impulse control...
It sounds like some kind of outburst was predictable by that time. But who exactly was supposed to predict that and how? And what should that person do?
Oh, Jesus. I am so sad for little Lizzy. Poor baby.

Keep him locked up, especially when violating parole.
How they let someone out,and get away with violating parole is unacceptable.

 

[JustEve]

Keep him locked up, especially when violating parole.
How they let someone out,and get away with violating parole is unacceptable.

I see your point, and you are right, but you cannot hold him locked up for life, as he needs to be, until he does something horrible like he just did. That is the problem.
If he was in prison, sweet Lizzy would be alive, but you cannot hold him in prison for nothing.

 

[Trudie]

And here comes the rest of the story. The anger/rage and violence. We knew it would come out eventually.

This makes me so angry.

So glad msm finally picked this up.
Remember too, AW posted on his FB he assaulted his gf.

 

[Trudie]

He was sentenced to prison on March 19, 2018, but the prison term was suspended and he was ordered to serve 180 days in jail and five years of probation. Terms of his probation include no alcohol, no illegal drugs and drug testing and no violations of other laws, according to a court docket.

. Big mistake. He needed to go to the big house.
WTH did the judge think he’d be able to go five years w/o trouble? Smh

No excuses for AW, but his life might actually improve in prison. Sadly.

I agree. For once in his life, he won’t “get away” with his
Shenanigans, staff or other inmates will address things as they see fit. Why do I already see the tactical team performing a cell extraction on him for his reluctance to strip or cuff up?

 

[Kavya01]

Ah no. Rest softly little girl

 

[otto]

Thank you for posting it for us who have restricted access due to EU laws on privacy.

Reading this, oh my... So much anger and such a poor impulse control...
It sounds like some kind of outburst was predictable by that time. But who exactly was supposed to predict that and how? And what should that person do?
Oh, Jesus. I am so sad for little Lizzy. Poor baby.

I'm wondering if he has fetal alcohol syndrome, or some other mental damage that interferes with frontal lobe behavior control.

 

[JustEve]

Deleted. Double, sorry.

 

[Trudie]

but you cannot hold him in prison for nothing.

His charges can’t really be considered “nothing”.
I said earlier, these guys must go to prison, give them 3-5, mandating substance abuse/anger management & other pertinent classes be completed before release.
Slapping them with a few fines & probation is “nothing”.
And once they are awol from probationary requirements, they need to be picked up stat because they are back to using & that leads to new criminal acts.
I’m not victim bashing but it is untrue to believe his family/friends did not know of his propensity for violence & inability to live on the right side of the law. And no, of course his sister didn’t expect this to happen. But these animals don’t suddenly “quit” their bad behavior.
Moo

 

[Trudie]

I'm wondering if he has fetal alcohol syndrome, or some other mental damage that interferes with frontal lobe behavior control.

Not sure he has a frontal lobe.

 

[JustEve]

I'm wondering if he has fetal alcohol syndrome, or some other mental damage that interferes with frontal lobe behavior control.

Almost every mental condition, congenital or environmental, interferes with that. Unbelievable.

 

[JustEve]

His charges can’t really be considered “nothing”.
I said earlier, these guys must go to prison, give them 3-5, mandating substance abuse/anger management & other pertinent classes be completed before release.
Slapping them with a few fines & probation is “nothing”.
And once they are awol from probationary requirements, they need to be picked up stat because they are back to using & that leads to new criminal acts.
I’m not victim bashing but it is untrue to believe his family/friends did not know of his propensity for violence & inability to live on the right side of the law. And no, of course his sister didn’t expect this to happen. But these animals don’t suddenly “quit” their bad behavior.
Moo

No, I didn´t mean it was nothing, I meant it would be best if he could have been in prison for life already, before he killed Lizzie. As a prevention. Your idea is great, I am all for it, but I am not sure was it possible to "repair" him. Not sure. Maybe in his early teens. His issues were too serious.

And of course that his friends/ family knew he was violent and out of control. I guess they tried not to trigger him- that is the impression I got reading interview with his grandfather and the article about domestic violence.

Of course no one expected he would murder baby girl. But maybe someone should have expected his issues to worsen, and shouldn´t have expected the problem to pass by itself.

 

[otto]

Not sure he has a frontal lobe.

Therefore the question about FAS. Something is off with him, yet he has so many chances. Why does he have extra chances, a mental defect? Maybe he's just lucky when it comes to getting away with breaking the law, so lucky that he escalated to murder.

 

[mickey2942]

Prosecutors take death penalty off table in Lizzy Shelley case, Salt Lake DA weighs in

This is a very well done article about using the death penalty as a "bargaining chip", I can see both sides of this. And what ramifications does this have for states that do not have a death penalty?

 

[JustEve]

Therefore the question about FAS. Something is off with him, yet he has so many chances. Why does he have extra chances, a mental defect? Maybe he's just lucky when it comes to getting away with breaking the law, so lucky that he escalated to murder.

It seems to me that he got so many chances due to the inertia of the system, not because of his cognitive or psychological deficiencies. But, then again, I am a foreigner, my opinion on your law system may be thoroughly incorrect.

 

[Trudie]

I guess they tried not to trigger him- that is the impression I got reading interview with his grandfather and the article about domestic violence.

Of course no one expected he would murder baby girl. But maybe someone should have expected his issues to worsen, and shouldn´t have expected the problem to pass by itself.

I wonder if everyone did the eggshell shuffle around him,
Afraid they’d piss him off & he’d erupt.
He makes me sick.

 

[FleurQualia]

I don't think we will ever understand the why. Part of me thought maybe he did it to get back at his sister for some perceived slight.

But it's obvious he has little to no impulse control, so that's probably what it ultimately came down to. He had the impulse to do it so he did it. No other deeper reason required.

 

[Trudie]

Therefore the question about FAS. Something is off with him, yet he has so many chances. Why does he have extra chances, a mental defect? Maybe he's just lucky when it comes to getting away with breaking the law, so lucky that he escalated to murder.

@otto In Utah, the inmate tally is climbing despite a long-term decline in property and violent crimes. In 2015, legislators shortened the penalties for many drug offenses and reduced the amount of time someone with a nonviolent conviction can stay in prison if he or she commits a parole violation.

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[Trudie]

Part of me thought maybe he did it to get back at his sister for some perceived slight.

I know what grandpa said & a lot of posters do think this was revenge towards the family. I don’t. I think it was about Alex’s immediate needs & the murder was because, well, what else was he gonna do? He was going down one way or the other. Moo
I can’t see why he’d be envious of his sister. Help me understand (if you know) this thought.