Found Deceased UT - MacKenzie "Kenzie" Lueck, 23, Salt Lake City, 17 June 2019 #5

[cherrytree9]

Since the daddy hashtag is not associated with her Kenzie account but with her Nova Black account, I don't think it was a bot thingy. I think she requested and got accepted. When that was is the question to me.

She wouldn't need to request to follow or wait to be accepted, it's a public account.

It may have been private before today, and if she previously requested but wasn't accepted her account may have automatically been 'accepted' if you like when the account went public. But we don't have anything to say that it was private.

 

[PommyMommy]

Wonder if this person came forward voluntarily (I would if I had nothing to hide), or if LE contacted this person based on phone records.

I'm going with phone records due to the delay/timing. MOO

 

[InTarzana]

I was just thinking. If I was a young woman and went away with somebody for the night and all of this social media let loose on me I'd have a hard time reappearing too. Just a thought.

IIRC she was gone for over a week before the media got wind of this. Ten days maybe?

 

[TheRaven]

So weird. Not cropped so you can see I JUST screen shot that. FYI totally see all yours say 626. Not sure why mine would reflect differently.

Mine says 625! ???????

 

[PommyMommy]

Last known person texting with missing Utah student Mackenzie Lueck is cooperating with investigation: police
[...]

He continued, “We're combing through all of that digital evidence that we have accumulated through search warrants and looking into her life.”

[...]

When Smith asked if Doubt had access to her digital history, Doubt said, “We do.”

“If you have access to her digital history, was there a moment when she said to someone else, I'll meet you in the park?” Smith asked Doubt.

“We don't have that. We don't have any of that,” Doubt answered. “We know that she was texting someone at the airport and we’re trying to follow up on that right now but with these apps nowadays that you can secure down, that are secret and you can have different identities, it's just really hard to track.”

[...]

 

[Criminal Justice mom]

This has probably already been discussed, but it keeps coming to my mind.

Do we know if she has "Find Friends" or some other app that friends/family could see her location? It's possible she texted her mom to let her know she landed, got her ride with Lyft, and then turned her phone off so her friends/family couldn't see her location--i.e. meeting up with someone in the middle of the night.

Just a thought. I know I've turned my phone off when I didn't exactly want my nosey mom to know where I was. ​

My daughters and I all have the Life360 app where we can track/locate eachother. When any of us dont want to be "found" we simply go to the settings and turn "location sharing" off. You dont have to turn off the phone.

 

[MimosaMornings]

No Lyft driver I ever rode with offered me a beverage. Is this a new service and I'm being short-changed?

I had an Uber driver offer to hook us up with an “herbal essence” while in NM.

 

[Gardenista]

She wouldn't need to request to follow or wait to be accepted, it's a public account.

It may have been private before today, and if she previously requested but wasn't accepted her account may have automatically been 'accepted' if you like when the account went public. But we don't have anything to say that it was private.

I agree with this and should have said the private part in my post. I'm trying to check google cache to see if I can figure out if it was previously private.

 

[MassGuy]

No Lyft driver I ever rode with offered me a beverage. Is this a new service and I'm being short-changed?

Haaa!

Some do have drinks and snacks, but it’s rare on the whole.

Usually there’s a box where you can pay for it, in the form of a “tip.”

That being said, if I was a woman and my Lyft driver offered me a beverage at that time of night, I wouldn’t drink it.

Unless is was bourbon on the rocks.

I mean, who could say no to that?

 

[Corpus]

MOO
Perhaps we should all be thinking about the potential consequences to her of nonconformity in her family's cultural group. Was she an embarrassment to her family? Did she meet up with an extended family member or friend of her parents' rather than the theoretical SD?? Was a solution to that embarrassment found???
Family conflict doesn't and never has eliminated foul play from the list of possibilities in these sorts of cases.
MOO

Everything we've been told by verified insiders is that her family is accepting of her life choices. I know some of her local family and they are cool (not the type to see her as an embarrassment).

 

[LaborDayRN]

I'm going with phone records due to the delay due to the timing. MOO

I agree. Whoever it was that KL was texting can not have missed all the media about this case. LE has been asking for anyone who may have talked to her or had contact with her to notify them. We haven't heard about this person until LE received the warrants for cell phone records. I think his / her identity is related directly to the records

 

[MCDRAW]

This has probably already been discussed, but it keeps coming to my mind.

Do we know if she has "Find Friends" or some other app that friends/family could see her location? It's possible she texted her mom to let her know she landed, got her ride with Lyft, and then turned her phone off so her friends/family couldn't see her location--i.e. meeting up with someone in the middle of the night.

Just a thought. I know I've turned my phone off when I didn't exactly want my nosey mom to know where I was. ​

My kids just turn their data off. Then I call and say why did you turn your data off? haha They always act like they have no idea what I am talking about. We had life360 and their dad was a true stalker. I finally told them I deleted the app and they followed suit, He never asked why we weren't on it anymore. So I get it.

 

[SoCalGirl]

MOO
Perhaps we should all be thinking about the potential consequences to her of nonconformity in her family's cultural group. Was she an embarrassment to her family? Did she meet up with an extended family member or friend of her parents' rather than the theoretical SD?? Was a solution to that embarrassment found???
Family conflict doesn't and never has eliminated foul play from the list of possibilities in these sorts of cases.
MOO

I live in the same (small) town as the family and this doesn't seem likely at all. This is an informal beach community (flip flops, shorts, bathing suit tops); the four kids have always been involved in sports, well liked, going to prom with whomever (no strict LDS requirement for dating), and going to parties along with everyone else. The 21-yr old who lives at home has been to parties with my son where there is drinking; the parents just aren't strict like you're inplying.

 

[Inthedetails]

I'm going with phone records due to the delay due to the timing. MOO

I'm probably overthinking, but I'm still stuck on my idea that this was a first-time meeting with the unknown person.

When communicating with people you know, text seems like one of the top go-to methods. (Yes, I know there are ways to communicate.) It would seem that once she established a relationship with a SD or hook-up person, they would use text rather than an app to communicate.

But when hooking up for the first time, it might be arranged through the app.

If LE can't find the unknown person in her texts, I lean even more heavily toward this being a first-time meeting. (Opinion subject to change as we learn more.)

Now cue everyone to tell me how antiquated texting is and how it means nothing.

jmo

 

[i'm someone]

Yep, just changed for me, too. I am sure there are so many people looking at her account though, and scrutinizing everyone she's tagged. If I had been tagged and I thought people were checking out my account because of something like this, I'd probably delete it too. I am sure it feels like an invasion of privacy, and I am sure there are people out there who have no boundaries and who are messaging her known Instagram friends/tagged friends.

A good rule of thumb: Be who you say you are, where you say you are, when you say you are, and if you post those things online, expect everyone to be able to see that. Otherwise, you are living a lie, and if something goes wrong, that is the last impression your life will have on this world. MOO

 

[Snoop Sister]

The bots will notice your interest and send those accounts your way!

jmo

Lol one never knows

 

[Criminal Justice mom]

Last known person texting with missing Utah student Mackenzie Lueck is cooperating with investigation: police
[...]

He continued, “We're combing through all of that digital evidence that we have accumulated through search warrants and looking into her life.”

[...]

When Smith asked if Doubt had access to her digital history, Doubt said, “We do.”

“If you have access to her digital history, was there a moment when she said to someone else, I'll meet you in the park?” Smith asked Doubt.

“We don't have that. We don't have any of that,” Doubt answered. “We know that she was texting someone at the airport and we’re trying to follow up on that right now but with these apps nowadays that you can secure down, that are secret and you can have different identities, it's just really hard to track.”

[...]

Just because it was the last person she was "texting" with doesn't mean its the last person she communicated electronically with. Not having her actual device makes it neay impossible to know each and every way (Apps etc) that she was using for communication. There are literally dozens and dozens of different possibilities. How can L.E. possibly know which to access or get warrants for?

 

[mxprincess399]

No Lyft driver I ever rode with offered me a beverage. Is this a new service and I'm being short-changed?

My cousin drives for Lyft and carries a case of bottled water for people.

 

[JudgeJoe]

Questions raised about dating apps as search continues for missing Utah student
As the search for a missing University of Utah student continues, questions are being raised about whether her social media and dating accounts might lead to a break in the case.

And on Wednesday, Salt Lake City police confirmed that Mackenzie "Kenzie" Lueck sent a text to someone while she was at the airport and detectives have been in contact with that person.

Detective Michael Ruff declined to say, however, whether that person was man or woman, but said that person was not considered a suspect.

Previously, police had stated that Lueck texted her parents at 2 a.m. on June 17 when she arrived at the airport. Ruff said Wednesday that the new person police had talked to, whom she texted, was not her parents, but declined to give more details.

[...]

In conversations this week in a Facebook group discussing Lueck's disappearance, a man claimed that he had met Lueck on Tinder and that she was "looking for that type of relationship." The man went on to say the Lueck had mentioned she "wanted" to be a sugar baby and that "she needed money."

[...]

This article continues to reference a private FB group in which ML said, “I have some experience on seeking arrangements, online only, Tinder, and currently have two [sugar daddies] lol."

I wonder if LE has identified & interviewed the two.

 

[purple_orchid_3]

So a comment on KL instagram(totally open to the public) says she is part of the daddy gang. Her picture on her private account novababy96 is her wearing daddy gang merchandise. This is all just so sad to me, I never knew a "world" like this existed. So eye opening.

Young adults and kids are into all kinds of trends that they get caught up in. Most of them grow out of it and consider it an experience, they don't go missing or completely off the grid. I think something has happened to her and I think the police and FBI know way more than they are reporting. It's frustrating to us, but might be good in the search for her. I hope she is ok and and they find her soon.