GUILTY UT - Michele MacNeill, 50, found dead in bathtub, Pleasant Grove, 11 April 2007 - #2

[Norwegian]

Also Gypsy has a daughter who is being raised by her parents. I have no doubt that Gypsy was in on this murder. She was probably there! JMO ~
Evil attracts evil...MM + Gypsy. I found a video yesterday where it was said that gypsy killed an animal when she was younger, but the forums were down and now I cannot find it! It was a 20/20 episode...I am off to look for it.

Yes, I've seen that video too. Very disturbing.

In regards to Gypsy being in on this, where was she that morning when Michele died? Anyone knows?

Michele's blue jogging pants that she wore in the tub has never been found... Where did it go?

 

[gngr~snap]

Yes, I've seen that video too. Very disturbing.

In regards to Gypsy being in on this, where was she that morning when Michele died? Anyone knows?

Michele's blue jogging pants that she wore in the tub has never been found... Where did it go?

I believe she was eating lunch with a friend miles away from the MacNeill home.
Rachel found the wet bottoms in the garage by the washing machine and kept them didn't she?
Maybe it was just the top. I am not sure.
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[Norwegian]

Thank you Norwegian for the info about Giselle. I was wondering what ever happened to that poor little girl!

Also, in point 96 of the arrest affidavit, Stephanie Hansen, the ER nurse, claims Martin was angry, yelled, tossed papers and used profanity while in the ER.

One of the things he said was that "Michele was the mother of six kids."

If the statement is true he didn't count Ada and Giselle. Which further indicates he had started to distance himself from Giselle. And we know now Ada is his grand daughter.

 

[Norwegian]

I believe she was eating lunch with a friend miles away from the MacNeill home.
Rachel found the wet bottoms in the garage by the washing machine and kept them didn't she?
Maybe it was just the top. I am not sure.
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Ok, thank you for that information.

About the jogging bottoms, the affidavit it says that the pants were never found by neighbours or anyone else cleaning up after the incident.

When Rachel testified she said the following:

NIDENTIFIED MALE: You mentioned some stuffed animals.

MACNEILL: ... all wet and bloody. It was just a big pile of -- everything was just thrown -- it was a big, bloody mess. It was just all -- all of these things were just thrown in the garage.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK.

MACNEILL: And I found -- I got my mother`s things. I found them. I took them to my father. It was her garments and running -- a dark blue running suit thing that she wore. He told me, How dare you show me those things! Get rid of them. I washed them. I washed my mother`s things, put them in a bag and kept them and then turned them over to...

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Did you ultimately turn them over to investigators?

MACNEILL: Yes.

CNN transcripts: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1310/24/ng.01.html

Ok, so it seems she found the bottoms too? I'm not sure how I should read this.

 

[gngr~snap]

Ok, thank you for that information.

About the jogging bottoms, the affidavit it says that the pants were never found by neighbours or anyone else cleaning up after the incident.

When Rachel testified she said she had found she said:

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Ok, so it seems she found the bottoms too? I'm not sure how I should read this.

I just saw something about an affidavit that said jogging pants never found.
I'm not sure either now!

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[gngr~snap]

Out of the mouths of babes... they have no motivation to lie.
If she says mommy had pants on IMO she did.
The fact that she had ANY clothes on and the water had been shut off seals the deal for me.agree. Mac Neill had zero regard for his daughter/ granddaughter.
Just pshhhh .... vermin.

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[Norwegian]

I found a picture on AM's Pinterest yesterday, the picture with two girls/women in it.

I think this picture is either Ada and Elle, Elle or Michele or Ada and Michele.
It's hard telling with the paint and since the picture is so small.

Then when I looked at Gypsy's FB, she had a similar picture on her wall. It was uploaded March 30th this year.

It would be interesting to know when that picture was taken and if this is just a coincidence.

 

[Norwegian]

Is the blonde girl side by side in these pictures the same?

 

[Dmacky]

Is the blonde girl side by side in these pictures the same?

I don't think so. The blonde beside GW has her hair parted down the middle, and it appears to be longer.

 

[Bravo]

There is no Court tomorrow????

 

[Bravo]

Also Gypsy has a daughter who is being raised by her parents. I have no doubt that Gypsy was in on this murder. She was probably there! JMO ~
Evil attracts evil...MM + Gypsy. I found a video yesterday where it was said that gypsy killed an animal when she was younger, but the forums were down and now I cannot find it! It was a 20/20 episode...I am off to look for it.

Great finds and good info. Thanks. Yes she is Evil. Scary part is she is out and about :scared:

 

[Dmacky]

I found a picture on AM's Pinterest yesterday, the picture with two girls/women in it.

I think this picture is either Ada and Elle, Elle or Michele or Ada and Michele.
It's hard telling with the paint and since the picture is so small.

Then when I looked at Gypsy's FB, she had a similar picture on her wall. It was uploaded March 30th this year.

It would be interesting to know when that picture was taken and if this is just a coincidence.

WOW...Good catch Norwegian! I saw that pic on the right on gypsy's FB
It sure loooks like Michele and one of her younger girls in the left picture!
I would hate to think they were at the same activity and Michele and her kids had no idea!

 

[Dmacky]

There is no Court tomorrow????

No court tomorrow. Mondays are dark. We will have to wait until Tues. to see EVIL back on the stand.

 

[Norwegian]

WOW...Good catch Norwegian! I saw that pic on the right on gypsy's FB
It sure loooks like Michele and one of her younger girls in the left picture!
I would hate to think they were at the same activity and Michele and her kids had no idea!

Exactly my thought.

 

[Bravo]

No court tomorrow. Mondays are dark. We will have to wait until Tues. to see EVIL back on the stand.

Gonna be a long wait. Thanks:seeya:

 

[Bravo]

Exactly my thought.

Great find also. Thanks. Now was there not an article where Gypsy's car was seen at the McNeil home yet Gypsy was not seen in the home? I believe it was at one of the kids Birthday Party's. She was likely hiding somewhere for a quicky. LOL IMO.

 

[Bravo]

I was of the opinion that Gypsy would slam Martin. That the Defense would go at her to suggest some other dude did it. I think I may be wrong. Thoughts?

 

[Norwegian]

Great find also. Thanks. Now was there not an article where Gypsy's car was seen at the McNeil home yet Gypsy was not seen in the home? I believe it was at one of the kids Birthday Party's. She was likely hiding somewhere for a quicky. LOL IMO.

Yes, that's what it says in the affidavit. Everything you said except for a quicky.

Her car is even in some of the family pictures from that day, it was Ada's 3rd birthday I believe.

 

[gngr~snap]

Yes, that's what it says in the affidavit. Everything you said except for a quicky.

Her car is even in some of the family pictures from that day, it was Ada's 3rd birthday I believe.

3rd?
Figures

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[Bravo]

Yes, that's what it says in the affidavit. Everything you said except for a quicky.

Her car is even in some of the family pictures from that day, it was Ada's 3rd birthday I believe.

Thanks. I read so many places I cant keep track. Since we are at a lull I think it a good day to go back and read the affidavit. It is just so sickening. The boldness of the two.