Found Deceased UT - REMAINS FOUND - MacKenzie "Kenzie" Lueck, 23, Salt Lake City, 17 June 2019 #12 *ARREST*

[slcmike]

It was filmed in Snowbird, UT.

He has pics from up at Snowbird on his FB page too, so that checks out.

 

[SteveP]

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Why do I get the very strong sense that everything he "thinks" he knows about BD/SM, he most likely got from watching ....so he really probably knows nothing at all, making almost everything he does dangerous.

 

[Boxer]

It was filmed in Snowbird, UT.

MOO you right- pretty far from the 10th Mountain Division.

 

[slcmike]

and there is a big jump in assessed value I saw - something was definitely going on with that piece of property IMO. Is he a flipper?

Houses in this neighborhood are being flipped everyday. The real estate market has been crazy hot.

 

[MassGuy]

Right:
Join the Military | USAGov

“Requirements, either citizenship OR lawful permanent resident with valid green card.”

That’s the way I did it.

At the time, I was a Green Card holder from the UK.

I didn’t bother becoming a citizen until afterwards, which is what this guy apparently tried to do.

It requires proof of service, and an honorable discharge if you do it after (and want to have it expedited and free).

From reports, he tried to do it, but never submitted his military service records.

 

[NuttMegg]

Per RedFin, Feb. 2018.

Thank you. Updated:

1. Jul 2009 - AA arrived in the US on a student visa
2. Oct 2009 - AA was baptized by LD in Utah
3. 2009 -2016 - USU spokesman said AA was a student there three separate times during this period; he did not declare a major or earn a degree
4. 2011 - AA married TJ in Texas
5. 2011-2012 TJA's baby was born, marriage crumbling, and AA told TJA he was going back to Utah. She refused to go with him.
6. 2011 - 2015 - USU said AA had a break in attendance during these years
7. 2011 - 2015 - AA's resume says he studied at London South Bank University
8. 2012 - AA and LD lost communication
9. 2013 - 2015 AA lived in the North Logan area from 2013-2015
10. 2014 - AA became a green card holder
11. 2014 - AA was investigated by North Park UT police for the rape of an adult woman
12. 2015 - AA served in the Utah Army National Guard and was discharged in June 2015; he did not complete basic training
13. 2015 - Friend SM met AA in US Army basic training in Fort Jackson, SC
14. 2015 - AA had a website registered to an apt at 429 n 500 e Logan, UT
15. 2016 - AA was evicted in Davis Co, UT (apt near Hatch Park)
16. 2016 - AA joined Airbnb as a user
17. 2017 - AA and TJA reportedly separated ???
18. 2017 - AA received unemployment benefits
19. 2017 - AA played the part of a football player in "Climb to Glory" Army-Navy video
20. Jan – Jul 2018 - Army friend SM moved to UT in Jan and lived downstairs in AA's Airbnb. *Awaiting verification of Venmo pmts Jan through July.
21. Feb 2018 - Per RedFin, AA purchased home at 547 N 1000 W, SLC, UT
22. Aug 2018 - Book "Forge Identity" published
23. Sept 2018 - Airbnb review
24. Jan 2019 - AA and TJA reportedly divorced (no record found and other reports say they are not divorced)
25. June 28, 2019 AA arrested by SWAT at the Parkside Condominium complex at 1000 S. West Temple

April 4 2019 AA contacts Contractor to build "unlimited budget" sound proof room with hooks at 7' level on walls. To be built under porch. Contractor declines.

Suspect in Utah Student's Killing Asked Contractor to Build 'Weird' Soundproof Room Under Porch

 

[wary]

ITA this has been an unusual missing persons case - but so very glad LE was right on top of it the whole time - from missing to arrest was one of the quickest I have seen on WS. JMO

And people criticized LE for being slow, and not seeming to take her disappearance seriously! I bet they were working hard from the very start—learning everything they could about her and the people she knew. And then, once they got the warrants.... everything fit into place instantly, I suspect.

 

[Seattle1]

MOO internal changes to a home - walls and doors that don't affect bearing walls generally don't need a permit. Sounds like he he needed a contractor to build those changes though. MOO suggest the police offer amnesty to any unlicensed contractor that did building work for him.

I don't believe there's confirmation the sound proof room was ever built.

In the earlier threads of this case, there was documentation posted from AA's insurance claim due to basement flood. The contractor that refused the soundproof work was said to be a referral from the plumber that completed the insured work. Insurance work is typically completed by licensed businesses.

MOO

 

[DianaElaine]

Why do I get the very strong sense that everything he "thinks" he knows about BD/SM, he most likely got from watching ....so he really probably knows nothing at all, making almost everything he does dangerous.

I agree

 

[PommyMommy]

Realtor.com says it last sold in 2017, but it also says it was listed in January 2018. 547 N 1000 W, Salt Lake City, UT 84116 - realtor.com®

01/04/2018 Listed $259,900 $140 WFRMLS
08/11/2017 Sold - —

Oh em gee. That makes the most sense if his friend moved in Jan 2018 but I honestly do not know which one is correct without seeing the deed. I can't believe it's not on the assessor's website. Pondering what to do here...

Realtor.com - Sold 8/11/2017
Movato - Under contract Jan 2018
RedFin - Sold Feb 26, 2018

 

[ilovechili]

"ETA: “Nexus” actually referred to the house, as I see MassGuy has pointed out."

Yes, as you and MG point out, it could be him or his house. My point was the word *nexus* meant it went back outWards after it went back to him.

Otherwise, why use the word nexus?
I'm trying to comprehend with vocabulary why use that word unless it goes back towards him and then back out to some others? I guess it is perhaps my background and the use of that word scientifically.

I would analogize it to a patient zero for a communicable disease, and trace it back to one person who originated it. And then they can find many people going back out from the Nexus /patient zero.

Just an extremely interesting choice of word used, and showing how many interpretations there are amongst us.

I think you and I are talking about the same thing but described it differently but I am also talking about the possibility of more than that and the ways of interpreting it. I don't quite have the words.

I guess with any of what I am thinking of it still goes to what you are saying and to me the word hub still comes to mind. It starts with one nexus/hub/core and from there it sends out and multiplies and brings back/has returns I guess is the simplest wording I can think of.

An airport may be a good example. How many planes fly out, many come back bringing different passengers. They also connect at different smaller hubs. Just using a basic.

It may be as simple as to how his house connects to the case and it may mean how she came to know him, if anyone else she knew was familiar with him, had been to his house, ever met up with him at the park or elsewhere, and it could even go further than that. That also could tie into the very explanation given for how the home connected to the case, or she connected to him, besides just a text or two.

I simply await more information.

Jmo.

 

[oviedo]

I don't believe there's confirmation the sound proof room was ever built.

In the earlier threads of this case, there was documentation posted from AA's insurance claim due to basement flood. The contractor that refused the soundproof work was said to be a referral from the plumber that completed the insured work. Insurance work is typically completed by licensed businesses.

MOO

and now I'm wondering if he didn't continue searching for a contractor because he decided he wouldn't be holding anyone for a long period of time...

 

[Boxer]

Right:
Join the Military | USAGov

“Requirements, either citizenship OR lawful permanent resident with valid green card.”

Agree, green card holders (i.e. permanent residents) may join US military.

One benefit of serving in the military for a person seeking US citizenship is that is speeds up the waiting time - instead of having to wait the required 5 years to apply for citizenship, a green card holder with 1 year honorable military service or who is still within 6 months of honorable discharge can apply.

 

[PommyMommy]

IMO, those dates look like the remodel flip.

That makes sense.

April 4 2019 AA contacts Contractor to build "unlimited budget" sound proof room with hooks at 7' level on walls. To be built under porch. Contractor declines.

Suspect in Utah Student's Killing Asked Contractor to Build 'Weird' Soundproof Room Under Porch

Yes! Thank you, NuttMegg.

 

[wary]

That’s the way I did it.

At the time, I was a Green Card holder from the UK.

I didn’t bother becoming a citizen until afterwards, which is what this guy apparently tried to do.

It requires proof of service, and an honorable discharge if you do it after (and want to have it expedited and free).

From reports, he tried to do it, but never submitted his military service records.

Didn’t know that about you, MassGuy. I’m proud of you!

Hard to think that six months in the military—without basic training!—would qualify him? Maybe that’s why he never submitted the records?

And then there’s that whole business of a ‘lawful’ green card. If it were established that the marriage was a sham....

 

[Inthedetails]

April 4 2019 AA contacts Contractor to build "unlimited budget" sound proof room with hooks at 7' level on walls. To be built under porch. Contractor declines.

Suspect in Utah Student's Killing Asked Contractor to Build 'Weird' Soundproof Room Under Porch

Unlimited budget??

jmo

 

[MassGuy]

Didn’t know that about you, MassGuy. I’m proud of you!

Hard to think that six months in the military—without basic training!—would qualify him? Maybe that’s why he never submitted the records?

And then there’s that whole business of a ‘lawful’ green card. If it were established that the marriage was a sham....

I’m convinced the Army screwed up their messaging.

I still think he went to basic training.

He wouldn’t have submitted those records because he wouldn’t have qualified. He would be ineligible to obtain citizenship through his military service.

He didn’t serve long enough, or get out under the required conditions.

 

[NuttMegg]

Unlimited budget??

jmo

From the PEOPLE article "FOX 13 reports that Wolf was told he had an unlimited budget for the secret room, which he wanted to be accessible via a fingerprint locking mechanism."

 

[ClaireNC]

Oh em gee. That makes the most sense if his friend moved in Jan 2018 but I honestly do not know which one is correct without seeing the deed. I can't believe it's not on the assessor's website. Pondering what to do here...

Realtor.com - Sold 8/11/2017
Movato - Under contract Jan 2018
RedFin - Sold Feb 26, 2018

Put an * next to the bought house in 2017-2018 and include the 3 different sources/dates in a footnote. So we have the info document and will hopefully avoid posting too much about it again.

 

[Steelslady]

And people criticized LE for being slow, and not seeming to take her disappearance seriously! I bet they were working hard from the very start—learning everything they could about her and the people she knew. And then, once they got the warrants.... everything fit into place instantly, I suspect.

I don't think people were criticizing LE for being slow- but not taking her being missing serious. In the beginning, LE said they thought it was voluntary.