VA - 6-YEAR-OLD in custody after shooting teacher, Newport News, Jan 2023 *mom charged* #2

[Simply Southern]

Yes. In my opinion it's likely that the school will sue her for whatever their liability insurance doesn't cover in the eventual settlement.

The NNSB won't wiggle out of this easily. The child arrived at school at 11 Am. Four teachers reported to administration, the child had a gun. Administration ignored request to search the child. AZ was shot by 1:15 pm.

The mother would need to be a millionaire to cover even a small portion of the lawsuit.

MOO...

 

[ifindedout]

I found a Linkedin page for someone with same name. Hmmm... I wonder if it's her?

The one I found says:

Student Intervention Liaison at Blackwell ES​

Richmond, Virginia, United States​

I saw that too, and I wondered if it was a self-description of her being required to be in school with him.

 

[Simply Southern]

The shooting happened inside a classroom so it is unlikely a school resource office could have prevented it. What appalls me is that students reported the gun and school administrators did nothing.

I would expect a SRO to remove the child and determine how to perform a search. In Virginia SROs are fully trained LE officers, employees by the City or County and contracted to the school system.

 

[airportwoman]

Just makes me wonder in a general sense... what has this child seen ?
Ultra-violent movies or video games ?
Etc.
Imo.

That's probably the least of it. Most likely, he's had no rules, no stability, and no consistency in his life.

 

[MyBelle]

I would expect a SRO to remove the child and determine how to perform a search. In Virginia SROs are fully trained LE officers, employees by the City or County and contracted to the school system.

I would expect a school administrator to remove the child from the classroom after reports of a weapon are received.

 

[iamshadow21]

Just an acronym query from a country without police in schools... I thought it was School Resource Officer - SRO.

Everyone is saying RSO through the last few pages, which I thought was the WS acronym for a Registered Sex Offender.

Is there something else RSO stands for or are people just muddled? I'm confused.

MOO

 

[iamshadow21]

It's possible, and in fact not unlikely IMNSHO, that she does not know who the father is, and if she does, never told him that she was pregnant, and if she did tell him, he's in prison or some other situation where he can't have contact.

Except in the articles we've seen since very early days of this case, the protocol around the child being in school that has been quoted states that the 'mother or father' needed to be attending with him, and that this quote came from the family. They wouldn't have written that if there wasn't a father in the picture.

There was an article on ABC Australia today that includes this.

Mother of 6yo who shot teacher in US charged with felony neglect

MOO

 

[imstilla.grandma]

The mother of a 6-year-old who shot his first-grade teacher in Newport News, Virginia, in January has been indicted on charges of felony child neglect, and one count of recklessly leaving a firearm to endanger a child, a news release from the office of the Commonwealth’s Attorney said Monday.

The child will not be criminally charged, Newport News Commonwealth’s Attorney Howard Gwynn said last month.

Deja Taylor’s son shot his teacher Abigail Zwerner, 25, on January 6 at Richneck Elementary School, leaving her in the hospital with gunshot wounds to her hand and chest, investigators said.

The indictment comes after a “thorough investigation” from the police and the Commonwealth’s Attorney’s office, according to the news release.

James Ellenson, one of the attorneys for the family, said in an email, “She will be turning herself in later this week.”

The family has said in a statement the boy has an “acute disability” and was under a care plan which required a parent to attend school with him, though he was unaccompanied on the day of the shooting. “We will regret our absence on this day for the rest of our lives,” the statement read.

Mother of 6-year-old student who shot teacher charged with child neglect

(CNN) — The mother of a 6-year-old who shot his first-grade teacher in Newport News, Virginia, in January has been indicted on charges of felony...

whdh.com

 

[Simply Southern]

One charged and more to come.

I was losing faith in the Commonwealth Attorney to charge the mother. Reassuring words from the NNCOP, the CA knows the law, was all I hung onto.

The Grand Jury was a delay tactic in imho. Now another delay, his request for a "special grand jury". After a extensive thorough investigation by LE, the many articles quoting teachers, in lack of response/action by administration, I don't see what the hold up could be. Why did he not present the information he has to the grand jury to obtain an indictment for the vice principal who refused to act?

Imho..

 

[evilwise]

The NNSB won't wiggle out of this easily. The child arrived at school at 11 Am. Four teachers reported to administration, the child had a gun. Administration ignored request to search the child. AZ was shot by 1:15 pm.

The mother would need to be a millionaire to cover even a small portion of the lawsuit.

MOO...

What I'm saying is that there will be a settlement with the school, of which most will be paid by their liability insurance leaving them with some additional liability which they will then shift over to the mother, easily if she is convicted of a felony in regards to the incident. It doesn't matter if she can't pay it, all that matters is that the liability for it will be distributed between the insurance and the mother, preserving the school system's (and the city's/county's that the DA also is employed by) bottom line. Again this is just my admittedly cynical guess and personal opinion that I am in no way representing as fact.

 

[x_files]

It's possible, and in fact not unlikely IMNSHO, that she does not know who the father is, and if she does, never told him that she was pregnant, and if she did tell him, he's in prison or some other situation where he can't have contact.

I recall during the press release the shooter's parents' attorney said one or both parents were requested to attend school with their "disabled" son.

"The family has said the boy has an "acute disability" and was under a care plan "that included his mother or father attending school with him and accompanying him to class every day."

Mother of 6yo who shot teacher in US charged with felony neglect

A grand jury charges a six-year-old boy's mother with felony child neglect and a misdemeanour charge of endangering a child by reckless storage of a firearm.

www.abc.net.au

 

[x_files]

Except in the articles we've seen since very early days of this case, the protocol around the child being in school that has been quoted states that the 'mother or father' needed to be attending with him, and that this quote came from the family. They wouldn't have written that if there wasn't a father in the picture.

There was an article on ABC Australia today that includes this.

Mother of 6yo who shot teacher in US charged with felony neglect

MOO

Yes, I thought I remembered the attorney mentioning both parents so a father is still involved in the child's life.

 

[ChatteringBirds]

Does the 6-year-old not live with both parents, but they co-parent? Or are they only charging his mother for a different reason?

Both parents failed him, though, if they refused to have him fully evaluated and put under clearly- needed psychological care.

I wonder what "acute disability" he has been diagnosed with and what they were so afraid of, if he was further diagnosed... You would think they would have welcomed the help and support that can come with additional diagnoses.
JMO.

 

[YepperBepper]

Just an acronym query from a country without police in schools... I thought it was School Resource Officer - SRO.

Everyone is saying RSO through the last few pages, which I thought was the WS acronym for a Registered Sex Offender.

Is there something else RSO stands for or are people just muddled? I'm confused.

MOO

That's me being foolish. Apologies.

 

[YepperBepper]

Yes, I thought I remembered the attorney mentioning both parents so a father is still involved in the child's life.

Family of 6-year-old who shot teacher speaks out for 1st time

The family of the 6-year-old boy accused of shooting and injuring a teacher at his Newport News, Virginia, elementary school is speaking out.

abcnews.go.com

This one mentions mother AND father.

From link:

Their son "suffers from an acute disability and was under a care plan at the school that included his mother or father attending school with him and accompanying him to class every day," the family said. "The week of the shooting was the first week when we were not in class with him. We will regret our absence on this day for the rest of our lives."

End Quote

Imho

 

[mickey2942]

Having never seen any documentation in my career teaching school that required a parent to attend school with a child, if that was their agreement with the school, the child should not have been in the classroom without the parent. He would have been sitting in the office until a parent showed up to be with him, or take him home for other arrangements for his day.

That would not be denying him education, as the parents were the ones who apparently had this plan in place.

School administration fail.

 

[x_files]

Family of 6-year-old who shot teacher speaks out for 1st time

The family of the 6-year-old boy accused of shooting and injuring a teacher at his Newport News, Virginia, elementary school is speaking out.

abcnews.go.com

This one mentions mother AND father.

From link:

Their son "suffers from an acute disability and was under a care plan at the school that included his mother or father attending school with him and accompanying him to class every day," the family said. "The week of the shooting was the first week when we were not in class with him. We will regret our absence on this day for the rest of our lives."

End Quote

Imho

So a dad is present in the child's life so why was only the mother charged? Two adults living at the same residence he should hold some accountability as well. IMHO.

 

[chipwhitley]

I'm a little confused about the school's claim that AZ told a student to "Sit down and be quiet" after she was told the child had a gun.

We've heard other reports that AZ had told admin that day that the student had a gun. So, I'm thinking AZ told the child to "sit down and be quiet" to not alarm that child and then handled it with admin. I don't think this claim by the school is going to hold up. It's obvious and documented that AZ alerted admin about this child's behavior.

 

[jjonez]

I'm a little confused about the school's claim that AZ told a student to "Sit down and be quiet" after she was told the child had a gun.

We've heard other reports that AZ had told admin that day that the student had a gun. So, I'm thinking AZ told the child to "sit down and be quiet" to not alarm that child and then handled it with admin. I don't think this claim by the school is going to hold up. It's obvious and documented that AZ alerted admin about this child's behavior.

I am not convinced of the veracity of this allegation.

If true, I totally agree with you. AZ was likely attempting to keep her classroom calm and addressed the concern in a way that was not obvious to the young student making the (probably coerced) statement.

All MOO

 

[IDK]

So a dad is present in the child's life so why was only the mother charged? Two adults living at the same residence he should hold some accountability as well. IMHO.

Dad being involved doesn’t necessarily mean they live at the same residence. They could have shared custody, for example. Unless I am missing something? IMO