The FBI investigates any American who disappears from a cruise ship in international waters. She has not been found, alive or deceased. Without any additional evidence, her case cannot be solved. The FBI will not close her case without some indication of what happened and we have no resolution. I do not believe they are putting huge resources into tracking her down at this stage, but will investigate any new evidence as it becomes available. That is my speculation.
VA - Amy Bradley - missing from cruise ship, Curacao - 1998 #3
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There is a video on YouTube from 2017 where the FBI requests information on the case. So your position is that they released it nearly 20 years after the incident "just in case" without any sort of evidence or inclination that something happened other than her falling?
In 2017 FBI did age progression photos of what she would look like. So they were a actively looking for tips then.
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Authorities continue searching for a woman who went missing while she was on a cruise to the Caribbean with her family more than 25 years ago.
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The FBI does not have the agenda you think they do. They do not start with the premise that something nefarious happened and then request information to support that hypothesis. If the FBI had reliable evidence she was trafficked, her family would know that by now.
There is no body, alive or deceased. The FBI is seeking evidence to find out what happened. That could be a witness who saw something fall, someone taken off the ship, etc., anything at all. There is simply no reliable evidence to give her family closure.
You believe there is evidence of a kidnapping, I believe there is no reliable evidence of anything, so a simpler explanation is more likely. The FBI is seeking evidence for any and all scenarios. We all want answers but will not get them, in my opinion.
Of course they are. The case is open and unsolved.In 2017 FBI did age progression photos of what she would look like. So they were a actively looking for tips then.
Missing for 25 years: FBI searching for woman who disappeared on family vacation in 1998
Authorities continue searching for a woman who went missing while she was on a cruise to the Caribbean with her family more than 25 years ago.
ETA: I found the case very interesting initially because I am almost exactly the same age as AB and (without doxxing myself) share elements of her name. But unfortunately I don’t find unsolvable cases interesting, so I will likely not come back to answer yours and @Jezel ‘s questions because this case has no chance of being solved, just endless speculation, imo. It’s very tragic for her family.
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Picture of a balcony on Rhapsody of the Seas. It doesn’t look that high to me. We don’t know what suite they were in but obviously had to sleep a family of four, and found this one. I’d say all the balconies would have looked the same as this one regardless of what type of suite it was.
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Yes. We know she changed her clothes, leaving the polo shirt she had been wearing and changed into a a pair of jeans. She also took her cigarettes with her too.
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Amy was also seen in the upper deck/disco and bar area in the company of the band member, after she left her cabin. Three independent witnesses confirm this, all three testified under oath in front of a Federal Grand Jury. Amy was seen getting into the glass elevator with the band member, Alister Douglas and entering the disco/bar area. A witness in the disco saw Douglas give Amy a cup containing a dark liquid which could have been either coke or coffee. Witnesses have testified that Douglas left the disco area, alone and without Amy. Amy was not seen leaving the disco/bar area. This was likely where the ''trade off'' if you will, took place.
It was reported to be cabin #8564.
Three witnesses correctly placed Allister Douglas with Amy despite the fact that, at the time of the alleged "sighting", they didn't know those two from any of the other thousands of people on the ship? If a "trade off" did actually occur, Amy would have had to have gone voluntarily as any struggle, particularly in an area as public as a disco, would be noticed.Yes. We know she changed her clothes, leaving the polo shirt she had been wearing and changed into a a pair of jeans. She also took her cigarettes with her too.
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At 6 a.m., Ron woke up again. Amy wasn’t in the room or on the balcony. Her cigarettes and lighter were gone. She had taken off the yellow polo shirt she had been wearing and picked up a pair of jeans. Ron looked for a note, Amy’s habit before leaving anywhere, but there was none. Taking care not to wake Iva or Brad, he put on his shorts and went up to the pool deck, a level above, to look for her. The ship was docked at Curacao, having sailed into the island’s canal less than an hour earlier.
Amy was also seen in the upper deck/disco and bar area in the company of the band member, after she left her cabin. Three independent witnesses confirm this, all three testified under oath in front of a Federal Grand Jury. Amy was seen getting into the glass elevator with the band member, Alister Douglas and entering the disco/bar area. A witness in the disco saw Douglas give Amy a cup containing a dark liquid which could have been either coke or coffee. Witnesses have testified that Douglas left the disco area, alone and without Amy. Amy was not seen leaving the disco/bar area. This was likely where the ''trade off'' if you will, took place.
So many incredibly implausible events would have had to occur for the trafficking theory to be even the slightest bit accurate--cooperation of numerous individuals, no one seeing or hearing anything on a crowded cruise ship, no one talking for nearly three decades, etc. If this case is ever solved (incredibly doubtful at this point), and the trafficking theory actually proved correct, would likely take the cake for the most implausible and unlikely missing persons case in true crime history. It's definitely an intriguing and interesting theory, but incredibly unlikely.
So if there were still witnesses in the disco/bar area when she supposedly returned with the band guy, why are there no other witness accounts of what occurred/what her movements were after drinking the dark liquid?Yes. We know she changed her clothes, leaving the polo shirt she had been wearing and changed into a a pair of jeans. She also took her cigarettes with her too.
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At 6 a.m., Ron woke up again. Amy wasn’t in the room or on the balcony. Her cigarettes and lighter were gone. She had taken off the yellow polo shirt she had been wearing and picked up a pair of jeans. Ron looked for a note, Amy’s habit before leaving anywhere, but there was none. Taking care not to wake Iva or Brad, he put on his shorts and went up to the pool deck, a level above, to look for her. The ship was docked at Curacao, having sailed into the island’s canal less than an hour earlier.
Amy was also seen in the upper deck/disco and bar area in the company of the band member, after she left her cabin. Three independent witnesses confirm this, all three testified under oath in front of a Federal Grand Jury. Amy was seen getting into the glass elevator with the band member, Alister Douglas and entering the disco/bar area. A witness in the disco saw Douglas give Amy a cup containing a dark liquid which could have been either coke or coffee. Witnesses have testified that Douglas left the disco area, alone and without Amy. Amy was not seen leaving the disco/bar area. This was likely where the ''trade off'' if you will, took place.
I read the InStyle article but to me it’s quite a one-sided article. Is there a source for the witnesses who testified at the Federal Grand Jury that they’d seen her with Yellow?
I’m not leaning toward any particular theory, there’s not enough evidence to convince me of either scenario (trafficked, raped/murdered, or accidental/deliberate jump overboard). We will never know IMO.
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One of the witnesses, Crystal Roberts actually did know Amy, as she had met Amy on the cruise. Also, there have been quite a few witnesses who have came forward and talked over the years. Witnesses have testified for a Federal Grand Jury and given formal statements to the FBI. We also have photographs that have been forensically examined and sketches of persons of interest. This is a lot more evidence than most missing persons cases, where there is very little to go on.
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The witness who saw Douglas give Amy the drink left the disco shortly afterwards to disembark the ship as she had a shore excursion for Curacao booked. There probably wasn't that many people in the disco at around 6:00 a.m to witness anything. Most were probably either sleeping, eating breakfast or planning to disembark for Curacao.
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I'm sorry-but I don't believe the whole kidnapped, sex trafficking thing...there are always so many conspiracy theories. And it almost always comes out to be the simplest answer..in her case I think she partied all night, was super drunk-got back up after being on the deck-went back to the disco or a bar and partied more. Maybe she OD'd or had alcohol poisoning, or was in an altercation regarding a sexual advance that she didn't want to accept-and she died. Someone covered it up by getting her body off the ship-concealed in some way.
As for the sightings-everyone has doppelgängers, and everyone loves a conspiracy theory....so I think some stuff is made up, some is coincidental-and none of it is true. Unfortunately I believe she died the morning she went missing. Very sad.
IMO murder/homicide on the ship and death that morning that was somehow concealed by the perpetrator makes a lot more sense than falling overboard. It doesn't explain the post-cruise witness sightings, but it would explain the complete lack of any evidence that she fell overboard and possibly the grand jury, depending on what the charge actually was. However, the exact wording on the FBI site now implies that they think she could still be alive. Even though that sounds incredibly unlikely to me, I'm fairly certain that they know a lot more about the case than I do.
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They have continuously requested information ...throughout the entirety of the last 26 year or so.. They rehash it every so often.
What about people working in the bar/disco area? Bartenders, cleaners, security…
No one else reported anything.
I wouldn't expect marginalized workers from developing countries to report anything that could jeopardize their job.
Exactly. The disco, if I recall correctly, is/was (supposedly the ship has changed little in nearly three decades) on one of the top decks. How does she get taken against her will from there, down a dozen decks, and out of the ship without anyone noticing?
Based on all evidence available, Allister has been used as a scapegoat and I don't blame him one bit for being resentful after having to deal with unsubstantiated accusations for nearly three-decades. Dozens of people would have had to have kept quiet for nearly three-decades and for what, one victim? This was a middle-class woman from Virginia, not a high profile celebrity or politician. Even if it had been the latter, keeping all those people quiet for all those years is nearly impossible.
I'm sure the people who claim to have seen Amy post-disappearance believe they saw her, but it's interesting that none of them reported anything until seeing a news segment on her months or even years later. A news segments giving explicit details about a missing person can sub-consciously fill-in details in a person's mind and lead them to believe they saw a person they didn't actually see. People always want to make situations more dramatic and elaborate than what likely happened. Look at Brandon Swanson. Wouldn't be the first time in either case that water has concealed someone's location indefinitely.
Witness sightings of Amy Bradley….
March 1998
Shortly after Amy vanished, two women (one being Crystal Roberts) reported possibly seeing her at around 6:00 a.m. taking an elevator to the top deck just before the ship docked in Curacao, according to NBC News. Another person claimed on Unsolved Mysteries that she saw Amy around the same time with a member of the band. “I saw Amy and the band member walk over and up to the next deck above us,” alleged the witness. “And about 10 minutes later, he came walking around by himself."
August 1998
Two Canadian tourists reported seeing a woman they believed was Amy on a Curacao beach in August 1998. David Carmichael, one of the Canadian tourists, described her tattoos, her demeanor, and did not know she was missing.
1999
A U.S. Navy officer claimed he saw Amy at a Curacao brothel in 1999 but didn’t say anything at the time because he feared getting in trouble for being in an unauthorized area. “She said, ‘My name is Amy Bradley. Please help me,’” Ivy Bradley said. “He didn’t know anybody was missing. He told her there was a naval ship five minutes down the dock, that she could leave. And she said, ‘No, you don’t understand. Please help me. My name is Amy Bradley.’” The naval officer claimed he reported what he saw only after he retired and saw Amy’s photo in a magazine.
2005
Another possible sighting came in 2005 when a woman named Judy Maurer came forward with claims that she saw Amy at a department store bathroom in Barbados, according to the Australian outlet. Amy was allegedly with three men, who briefly left the restroom when Amy told Maurer that her name was Amy and she came from Virginia. Soon, the men allegedly returned and escorted Amy away, per Maurer’s account.
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The FBI is offering a reward of up to $25,000. I would think that would be even more incentive for someone to tell what they know.
*including MSM regarding the reward.
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