VA - Amy Bradley - missing from cruise ship, Curacao - 1998 #3

[MesquiteO21]

How would that work? Her being lesbian and attempting to get back with her girlfriend makes it really unlikely that Amy would have responded to Yellow's flirtations.

Ok so… we have to remember it was the 90s and the stereotypes of gay people at that time. A woman with hair that short absolutely would’ve been assumed to be a lesbian upon seeing her (today I feel like many cis het women have haircuts like that and of course there are many more non binary people who are out, but in the 90s it was a “tell”)

In the trafficker’s minds, taking a lesbian may be a “cover” because who would possibly think (again in the rather homophobic 90s) that a lesbian would be taken for ST?

I’m not saying I fully support this theory, if she was ST it very well could’ve been absolutely nothing to do with her perceived sexuality. But I’m also not entirely discounting how a trafficker might think and why they might see a rationale for targeting a lesbian

MOO

 

[Mslove717]

Ok so… we have to remember it was the 90s and the stereotypes of gay people at that time. A woman with hair that short absolutely would’ve been assumed to be a lesbian upon seeing her (today I feel like many cis het women have haircuts like that and of course there are many more non binary people who are out, but in the 90s it was a “tell”)

In the trafficker’s minds, taking a lesbian may be a “cover” because who would possibly think (again in the rather homophobic 90s) that a lesbian would be taken for ST?

I’m not saying I fully support this theory, if she was ST it very well could’ve been absolutely nothing to do with her perceived sexuality. But I’m also not entirely discounting how a trafficker might think and why they might see a rationale for targeting a lesbian

MOO

Lots of women had short hair like this in the 90s. However it was more of a mom-cut and a little more unusual on a 23 year old. But it wasn’t an automatic “lesbian” haircut… I’d say it’s more so thought of as that *today* if anything

 

[logic284]

I really cannot remember the female agent ever stating she doesn't personally believe Amy committed suicide. It would seem incredibly odd.

Episode 2 of the Netflix documentary at 22:39.

 

[lebvidox]

Episode 2 of the Netflix documentary at 22:39.

There's a context. She says "but... if you didn't have all of these sightings, would you be thinking something differently? Possibly". And then she mentions in other moments of the series that these sightings couldn't ever be verified.

 

[logic284]

There's no a single possible scenario I can picture this. She wouldn't be fighting for custody if she managed to escape an abductor.

I was considering her being threatened into submission by bad people convincing her she must accept her lot in life. Of course I would hope and expect she could, but if that is the scenario the threat could be keeping her quiet. Although honestly the kids if the ones mentioned in 2005 would be adults anyway so really I made a moot point.

 

[logic284]

There's a context. She says "but... if you didn't have all of these sightings, would you be thinking something differently? Possibly". And then she mentions in other moments of the series that these sightings couldn't ever be verified.

And then she said she “believed in [her] heart that Amy did not commit suicide.” I was just giving you the time stamp because you said you did not recall it being said. I wasn’t debating the content, I was just giving you the citation.

 

[lebvidox]

I was considering her being threatened into submission by bad people convincing her she must accept her lot in life. Of course I would hope and expect she could, but if that is the scenario the threat could be keeping her quiet. Although honestly the kids if the ones mentioned in 2005 would be adults anyway so really I made a moot point.

Then she wouldn't even considering an escape without taking her children with her. Her concern wouldn't be a legal fight for custody.

 

[lebvidox]

And then she said she “believed in [her] heart that Amy did not commit suicide.”

She only addresses the sightings and not her knowledge of Amy's sexuality etc. But indeed, you're right, she said she personally didn't believe Amy committed suicide, though the sightings were part of her reasoning.

 

[logic284]

Then she wouldn't even considering an escape without taking her children with her. Her concern wouldn't be a legal fight for custody.

I think I might not be getting my point across to you, but that’s ok. That is not what I was saying.

 

[lebvidox]

I think I might not be getting my point across to you, but that’s ok. That is not what I was saying.

I think I get what you're saying. Something like "even if I manage to escape, immigration might send my children back to that place that kept us prisoners" or something. I really can't see it.

 

[GXP Sleuther]

Was Amy covered under her fathers life insurance policy?

 

[GXP Sleuther]

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Wayne Breitag, a local Illinois Mutual agent for Aberdeen and the surrounding area, achieved Illinois Mutual’s number one producer status in the United States for life insurance sales in 2015. Breitag estimates the company has 700-1,000 agents.

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Meanwhile, Wayne Breitag — who was staying in the room next door to the Bradleys — recalled hearing that someone had drugged Amy at the nightclub and kidnapped her.

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WASHINGTON—Wayne D. Breitag of Aberdeen, S.D., was sentenced in federal court in Aberdeen yesterday to pay a $20,000 fine and serve six months of home confinement for smuggling the hide of a leopard into the United States in violation of the Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species of Wild Fauna and Flora (CITES), the Justice Department announced today.

 

[avob00]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but they didn't could establish when this particular photo was taken, right? It could be from ages ago. The website where the picture was first published led nowhere? I can't make sense of this.

I initially thought 2002 as the AAV website first features her then on the Wayback Machine. However another website I shared 2 days ago and has been shared online says copyright 1999. Definitely 1000% not 2005. Given the length of the ladies hair it would have to have been at least a year later.

 

[lebvidox]

I initially thought 2002 as the AAV website first features her then on the Wayback Machine. However another website I shared 2 days ago and has been shared online says copyright 1999. Definitely 1000% not 2005. Given the length of the ladies hair it would have to have been at least a year later.

And the pictures could have been taken long before the website was launched.

 

[TizerisT]

It's just that his recent posts have been way over the top.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1947107598966182249

Now he knows this person covering their face is Yellow and that these girls were DISCUSSING what they saw that night while Yellow was present and eavesdropping on their conversation. Things are getting beyond ridiculous. He's advocating for a particular theory and suspect. This will do nothing to help the case.

I don’t see what you’re so suspicious over. This is merely one thing in a long line of dodgy things Yellow has done. Why wouldn’t he point this out?
It seems you’re too hung up on the LGBT thing to consider anything else at this point. That photo alone is more relevant to the case than five pages spent talking about her sexual preferences. Whatever happened that morning, I can’t see what possible relevance it could have, barring one of her family killing her over it, three years after they found out

 

[sylke96]

Wayne (Bradley's Royal Caribbean Neighbor featured on the documentary) was Ron's co-worker and friend whom was also on the Cruise for free via the life insurance company?

This can't get stranger.

Where did you find this?

 

[lebvidox]

I don’t see what you’re so suspicious over. This is merely one thing in a long line of dodgy things Yellow has done. Why wouldn’t he point this out?
It seems you’re too hung up on the LGBT thing to consider anything else at this point. That photo alone is more relevant to the case than five pages spent talking about her sexual preferences. Whatever happened that morning, I can’t see what possible relevance it could have, barring one of her family killing her over it, three years after they found out

There's no prove whatsoever that this person 'covering their face' IS this poor guy Yellow

 

[TizerisT]

There's no prove whatsoever that this person 'covering their face' IS this poor guy Yellow

"Poor guy" ... are you actually being serious??

 

[lebvidox]

"Poor guy" ... are you actually being serious??

I am.

And the brother's actions and his biased focus on a single 'suspect' seems almost a disservice, to me, to all those years his parents have dedicated to keep the case in the public eye. He might think whatever he wants, but 'assuming' this person in the picture was Yellow based on 'shirt, head, glasses, skin color', plus 'he wore his glasses on his head a fair amount', is as dishonest to me as anyone going over his photos with Amy in the gala ball and implying 'something else' in their sibling relationship.

 

[TizerisT]

So then it must be an extraordinary concidence that another man, sitting on his own, pointed towards the girls, has a habit of following female customers around and happened to be there, looking very much like him, even down to the black shirt again, etc. Just the way Yellow was known to do.

also: May I know why you put skin color in bold?