VA - Hannah Elizabeth Graham, 18, Charlottesville, 13 Sept 2014 - #5

[Inthedetails]

I dunno... the only person I check in with, literally daily, is my husband. Am I uncaring because I don't call every single one of my friends and family members every single day? I'm not sure they would want to hear from me that much!

No, not every single person. And you do have someone who would notice you absent.

 

[Claudia]

of course. Ecstasy would make you energized and unable to stay at home alone (the hour after she left the party), also makes you love/trust/feel at one with everyone and very thirsty. Motivates you to find the party and people you can be with. You can also overdose easily or end up with heart problems and dehydration. X would make you run/walk fast and if she wasn't careful with hydration or if she took too much she could have had a seizure or heart stopped.

She didn't go back to her apartment though, right? They would have had video of her in the hall like they do from 9:30 that night.

 

[otto]

That would kind of imply she did this sort of thing, maybe without the getting lost part, on a regular basis? Got wrecked and disappeared for overnight or longer?

She was 18 years old attending university for what was most likely her first time away from home. Sure she over-indulged with alcohol one weekend. That is normal at college and university campuses. I don't think that she routinely, after a month at university, got lost because she wandered drunk around the neighborhood. I think that she was normally in bed at night, and when she was still not around on Sunday, her roommates gave the benefit of the doubt. They finally realized after it had been two days that something was wrong. Thankfully they raised the alarm before Monday.

 

[cluciano63]

I dunno... the only person I check in with, literally daily, is my husband. Am I uncaring because I don't call every single one of my friends and family members every single day? I'm not sure they would want to hear from me that much!

The point is, she said she was lost. And then, nothing.

 

[Inthedetails]

But again this doesn't explain why someone who "dropped off" a girl that is two days later all over the news for being missing since that very same night would not immediately go to police to clear himself..an innocent person would want to make sure they knew he didn't harm her..a guilty one would not want it to be known he was with her...Dreads just dropping Hannah off, not being responsible for her disappearance or at least knowing something of her disappearance just doesn't add up..

He has a criminal record. I think that explains why he didn't come forward himself.

 

[absentia]

Second year. She lived on-campus in a dorm last year. This was her first year of living off-campus.
http://m.roanoke.com/news/virginia/...ec8-57a2-5134-9c17-c0537e6a8ea5.html?mode=jqm

ok, so she knew her way around and the locals. she's a super young sophmore. I was 18 as a freshman.

 

[cluciano63]

Yes, I would have been frantically worried if I got a text saying my friend was lost at 1:20 in the morning and I would have checked up and probably called the police and/or her parents (if there were texts back then, in the stone age). But now I consistently miss texts or don't check them on my iPhone, sometimes until days later. I don't know if that's common with people younger than me.

I don't think they miss texts. Many sleep with phone under pillow, jmo.

 

[absentia]

Ok. Then I will remain open to the possibility, HG picked up some 'party supplies' from DG (now she is drunk and high). DG then drove her back to a point where HG said she needed to go. Scenario 1: HG got out of the car, sent that text, and attempted to walk home from that text location. Scenario 2: She couldn't navigate her way home, and DG took her back to his place. She had a drug reaction, and DG panicked. I get this vibe from DG, that he's a small time guy, who works the college crowd to augment his income. A little this, a little that.

If she got dosed, she may have had no idea what her plan was - just to GO DO SOMETHING NOW without understanding why. Maybe she was trying to bring some alcohol to the party and was looking for a buyer for her. I don't think she necessarily knew DBG or was looking for drugs. She must have been looking for alcohol - Grady's, then downtown - to bring to the party?

 

[otto]

She didn't go back to her apartment though, right? They would have had video of her in the hall like they do from 9:30 that night.

There's video surveillance of her in the hallway, presumably at a party, at 9:33.




Here she is alone, presumably arriving at the party.



It's 2.5 hours later that she is seen at the next location, which is close by.

 

[momrids6]

She didn't go back to her apartment though, right? They would have had video of her in the hall like they do from 9:30 that night.

Some of the MSM had the info wrong. That is video from Camden Plaza apartments, not her apartment building.

 

[absentia]

The point is, she said she was lost. And then, nothing.

do we know that none of her friends responded? or have they just not released that info?
if you knew your friend OD'd, you might not report them missing until family started asking questions.

 

[Suthrnqt]

Do you really think if this guy was a drug dealer, his car and home would be searched and not a thing found to arrest him on even a drug charge was found??
At that point ANYTHING...a baggie with a strange substance, a scale, pipe, actual drugs...whatever. They would have surely arrested him for that and worked the case while having him booked for drug charges.

This guy wasnt a drug dealer. Or at least, he wasnt a real one.

I do not think he was the dealer. But he definitely could be the middle man, imo.

 

[Skigirl]

No, not every single person. And you do have someone who would notice you absent.

Before I was married...especially when I was a practicing scientist who wrote in solitude or did experiments for days instead of going to a corporate office... nobody would have known I was gone for a week. Even now that I work in an office, everyone travels enough that nobody would think anything of it if I dropped off the radar for a couple days, except that they would all be irritated that I wasn't answering my email fast enough. Sorry, not trying to be contrary, but not everyone checks in with a lot of people on a daily basis. I'm pretty self-contained and was the same in college. I went off studying for long stretches by myself or in coffee shops and made intentional plans to meet up with friends. Every so often I cleared off my calendar for an entire weekend to study and since I didn't have social events planned, didn't check in with people. I didn't think that was so weird. Maybe things have changed now that cell phones are ubiquitous.

 

[absentia]

she looks flushed like she's been jogging.

anyway - Morgan Harrington's last known whereabouts is very close to DBG's apt, isn't it?

There's video surveillance of her in the hallway, presumably at a party, at 9:33.




Here she is alone, presumably arriving at the party.



It's 2.5 hours later that she is seen at the next location, which is close by.

 

[PresleySyndrome]

When I was HG's age I got wasted with friends, went to a bar (18+ 80s dance night), couldn't find my friends, so I decided it'd be reasonable to walk the 20 blocks home. Long story short, some guy tried to grab me/my bag, I hit him and ran. The next afternoon my friends said: "where'd you go last night." It's how the young think. A bunch of us lived in an apartment, some would come home at night, some wouldn't, we didn't check up on each other.

Edit: I said "the young." Im only 30, but I think a lot differently now, it comes with age. I still yell at my "young dumb" self for doing stupid things like that.

 

[perfectingpink]

Does Hannah have a twitter account?

 

[Inthedetails]

Before I was married...especially when I was a practicing scientist who wrote in solitude or did experiments for days instead of going to a corporate office... nobody would have known I was gone for a week. Even now that I work in an office, everyone travels enough that nobody would think anything of it if I dropped off the radar for a couple days, except that they would all be irritated that I wasn't answering my email fast enough. Sorry, not trying to be contrary, but not everyone checks in with a lot of people on a daily basis. I'm pretty self-contained and was the same in college. I went off studying for long stretches by myself or in coffee shops and made intentional plans to meet up with friends. Every so often I cleared off my calendar for an entire weekend to study and since I didn't have social events planned, didn't check in with people. I didn't think that was so weird. Maybe things have changed now that cell phones are ubiquitous.

A girl texts that she is lost and no one bothers to find out if she ever made it home. And everyone seems okay with that.....guess I'm the oddball, but I find it cold.

 

[FlamingoLady]

Does Hannah have a twitter account?

Yes, but I don't have a link. I just remember reading someplace that she does.

 

[Biggles]

Does Hannah have a twitter account?

Yes. Am I allowed to link it here?

 

[Claudia]

Some of the MSM had the info wrong. That is video from Camden Plaza apartments, not her apartment building.

Oh, thank you. I didn't realize.