WA - 3 children, ages 13, 9 and 7, among 5 killed inside Fall City home, 15 y.o. in custody - 21 October 2024

  • #61
Surviving sister indicated he was given the passcode to the lockbox, not to excuse the rest.

Which article? If that's true, it's really sad.

When I think of the brother going around to check to make sure they were dead. He was a little monster. (I’m not allowed to say that locally)

Why aren't you "allowed" to say that? What is your opinion about the local community's take on this tragedy?
 
  • #62
Which article? If that's true, it's really sad.

USA Today:

The 11-year-old said she recognized the gun "as her father's silver Glock handgun," the affidavit says. She told law enforcement her father kept the gun in a small lockbox occasionally kept near the front door so he could bring it to work. She added that, of all four children, the suspect was "the only one who knew the combination" to the lockbox.

A black Glock handgun was found at the scene, according to the affidavit.

 
  • #63
  • #64
It will be interesting to see if the boy has remorse for his acts or is a complete sociopath. Are the reports accurate about well-adjusted kids and a happy family, or was their a darker side to their family life?
I just can't fathom this crime.
 
  • #65
Are the reports accurate about well-adjusted kids

If he did as alleged, one of them wasn't.
A well-adjusted person couldn't shoot one person after another and then try to stage the scene to look as if one of the victims did it. No way. There would be something very unwell with him.
 
  • #66
Which article? If that's true, it's really sad.



Why aren't you "allowed" to say that? What is your opinion about the local community's take on this tragedy?
The information about the lock box is in the court documents. (I posted the link to the court documents earlier, you can read them for yourself if you like, caution though, they are disturbing and you can’t un-read them). With regards to our community, it’s very….protective I guess is the best way I can describe it. Best not say anything too negative.
 
  • #67
The information about the lock box is in the court documents. (I posted the link to the court documents earlier, you can read them for yourself if you like, caution though, they are disturbing and you can’t un-read them). With regards to our community, it’s very….protective I guess is the best way I can describe it. Best not say anything too negative.
Actually, kind of why I came here…so I could actually talk to someone about this! It’s so disturbing.
 
  • #68
For some reason his parents trusted him with the gun. I'll take it as true since it's quoting the victim. IMO.
The surviving sibling stated her brother had the combo. She didn't say how he got it. The father he murdered in cold blood may have mistakenly trusted his kid with it, with the idea of him being the oldest, "if anything happens, you know the gun safe combo" kind of situation, or the kid could have snooped around and found it on his own (as kids are known to do). We just don't really know yet. Either way, this is just a horrific case.
 
  • #69
Let me preface this by saying, I am in no way victim blaming. But I have to wonder why you would give your 15 year old the code to the gun safe? Isn't that the entire point of having a gun safe?

Also I wonder about the kids not being able to play with the neighboring kids of the LGBT+ family. It's beginning to paint a... certain picture of the family dynamics.
If you take the heresay as fact, it might. Whoever made that claim is unnamed and we don't actually know if it's true, or if it IS true, if it has anything at all to do with why the kid attempted to murder his entire family. Unfortunately, the only people that can explain the truth of the matter of that claim, have been murdered by their own child.
 
  • #70
The surviving sibling stated her brother had the combo. She didn't say how he got it. The father he murdered in cold blood may have mistakenly trusted his kid with it, with the idea of him being the oldest, "if anything happens, you know the gun safe combo" kind of situation, or the kid could have snooped around and found it on his own (as kids are known to do). We just don't really know yet. Either way, this is just a horrific case.

Yes we do. He was the eldest and per the surviving sister, the only one of the children who his father shared the code with. This wasn't any different than what most fathers across the country consider reasonable. Father generally took the firearm with him to work in Seattle which is also reasonable if you know anything about downtown Seattle. JMO
 
  • #71
Yes we do. He was the eldest and per the surviving sister, the only one of the children who his father shared the code with. This wasn't any different than what most fathers across the country consider reasonable. Father generally took the firearm with him to work in Seattle which is also reasonable if you know anything about downtown Seattle. JMO
I must have missed the info that stated the father gave the boy the combo. The article I read stated that he (the brother) was the only one of the kids that knew it, but that's all it said.
 
  • #72
Let me preface this by saying, I am in no way victim blaming. But I have to wonder why you would give your 15 year old the code to the gun safe? Isn't that the entire point of having a gun safe?

Also I wonder about the kids not being able to play with the neighboring kids of the LGBT+ family. It's beginning to paint a... certain picture of the family dynamics.

A reminder that the DM pays for news.

But I always find it rich when unnamed sources, especially, are quoted citing incidents such as the kids were prohibited from playing with neighboring kids of the LGBT + family but omit how the subject neighbor kid had been suspended from school for drug possession, assaulting a teacher, taking a firearm to school, etc. But then it wouldn't exactly be click-bait worthy, news, would it? JMO
 
  • #73
A reminder that the DM pays for news.

But I always find it rich when unnamed sources, especially, are quoted citing incidents such as the kids were prohibited from playing with neighboring kids of the LGBT + family but omit how the subject neighbor kid had been suspended from school for drug possession, assaulting a teacher, taking a firearm to school, etc. But then it wouldn't exactly be click-bait worthy, news, would it? JMO
Very true.

How do you know about the bolded?
 
  • #74
The information about the lock box is in the court documents. (I posted the link to the court documents earlier, you can read them for yourself if you like, caution though, they are disturbing and you can’t un-read them). With regards to our community, it’s very….protective I guess is the best way I can describe it. Best not say anything too negative.
is the link to the court documents now posted here on Websleuths? I wasn't able to locate your link.
 
  • #75
The information about the lock box is in the court documents. (I posted the link to the court documents earlier, you can read them for yourself if you like, caution though, they are disturbing and you can’t un-read them). With regards to our community, it’s very….protective I guess is the best way I can describe it. Best not say anything too negative.
is the link to the court documents now posted here on Websleuths? I wasn't able to locate your link.
 
  • #76
Multiple teenagers in a family being homeschooled isn't a good sign to me. Wasn't there a similar story from Oklahoma a few years ago?

The surviving daughter is probably not old enough, or in a suitable mental state, to care for the animals.
Statistically, being homeschooled isn't any more dangerous than going to public school, but some families take control to extreme levels, and those are often the ones with problems.

Here's more detail from the charging documents in this FOX report:

 
  • #77
Not to defend the “Keep Out” sign, but living in the general area, and on a body of water out here, the entire metropolitan Seattle area tends to empty out into the Valley and the Mountains on the weekends to recreate, and they’re not always (or it seems - ever) respectful of private property. lol. Truly, especially since Covid, the trails have been “discovered” and people are branching out and just tromp wherever, they don’t care if it’s through our backyards or not.

The Keep Out sign looks like it was placed there by the police.
 
  • #78
is the link to the court documents now posted here on Websleuths? I wasn't able to locate your link.
It looks like an admin has removed the link. I will not repost if they have removed.
 
  • #79
Juvenile Offender - Active
Case number: 24-8-00878-2 SEA

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  • #80
Statistically, being homeschooled isn't any more dangerous than going to public school, but some families take control to extreme levels, and those are often the ones with problems.

Here's more detail from the charging documents in this FOX report:

I was glad to hear the family friend say that the surviving sister has a lot of extended family members who will support her.
 

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