Hi all - I have participated in WS before for other cases. I don't come on here too often (I am too interested in all of this and wouldn't get any of my work done!
) but for this Marysville case, I was curious to see what you smart people think.
I live about 30 minutes away and have visited the town this happened in since the tragedy Friday. This weekend I also was seeking answers out of grief and confusion and spent a lot of time watching reports and reading social media pages. A lot of things have been very interesting in this situation considering social media.
I am not sure what is appropriate or not appropriate to discuss here. Of course I have read what you have already said and only things on MSM can be posted. I am curious though from your opinions on some things. So far I have batted several things around in my mind and, if appropriate, would like other thoughts from people who like to think about things and research things -like yourselves.
For example, why haven't they announced the name of the girl who passed away on Friday? I know her name and it is very clear on a social media site that starts with the letter T as all of the children and families in the area already know this. It's old news. So, why? It is confusing to me why they have not simply stated her name and that she was a victim at 11am? Never seen something like this before where they announce newer info but not the original info.
I guess that is really my only question per se for now.
The rest are all just thoughts and observations.
I have a heart of love and compassion for everyone involved in this situation. It is interesting to me also because I have a child and worry about them going to school and in public. We had SPU here earlier this year. We have had mall shootings too at the Tacoma mall. This area is also known for being the most depressed and stressed out city due to factors like crime and terrible gray rainy weather.
Another random thing about this - I just can't fathom how the kids will go into the same facility after this. Columbine was redesigned which I think helped. I am hoping that a construction company can offer to help the district out with tearing down the building and redoing part of the campus. With the kids being 14 years old (freshmen) and large families involved this will affect the student body for years.
Another thing- I know they have trauma counselors but this need is so great. I reached out to a hypnotherapist and NLP therapist who I have worked with to overcome something in my life with success to see if there is anything she could do to offer her services or even audio files to help them process or with grief. I haven't heard back but I hope to do something to help these children now as they work through unbelievable trauma.
Also having had a family member commit suicide when in a deep depression and certain circumstances I can understand how shocking it is to learn someone who you never thought would do something ... does something. So complex. And so confusing.
It is also interesting to hear so many accounts that he was just fine and smiling that day and dancing around the previous day. Yes I think this is true as my family member did some 'normal' things before hand and when texting 'seemed calm' with his best friend. But there are also clear signs that things were not fine. a) his twitter and b)him getting in a fight and suspended. Also, you can consider c) that someone said he was nervous in 4th period class or whatever right before this occurred and when asked he said "It's none of your business". Also that he was wearing headphones (which I associate with being in a 'zone' which suicidal people can do to keep their focus on their current mission). It is interesting to me as I follow a lot of cases and it shows me that even when so many people say this person was "fine" and other positive attributes that people can completely miss the whole picture. Personally I kind of take that as a lesson that we can't really take what people say as full evidence when reviewing cases.
It is also interesting and sad to see posts on social media of comments that may have been directed at JF. I know life happens and at times all of us have been hurt. No one - NO ONE - should have happen what happened. That said, I do hope that people - young and old - realize that we should be much more careful of what we post on social media and things we can do to hurt people. Again I don't know how much is OK on this forum to say. I am not referencing what, but it is all public open access on a web site. Because the folks on this site are thoughtful people who look at a lot of situations, it was curious to me if anyone else has noticed any of that. Very sad. Horrible. Traumatic. I do hope there are lessons in all of this for fellow humans, if nothing else, in all of this. That is my point of even going there talking about this.
I am also confused about him taking females' lives. Generally if it was over a girl, a person might harm the girl and the boy. However it was so much broader than that. So that makes me think that he loved them and all wanted to go down together and be together. ??
It also appears that his long term GF was from another school. But she hasn't been mentioned. It's confusing if that break up happened and then he was interested in a girl at MP that was involved with this? If so, that makes more sense but it isn't clear who was his GF at MPHS.... but it was stated that his long term GF went to another school, so wasn't there. The comments I saw on social media that I reference above only make sense if he was interested in a MPHS girl that his cousin ended up dating.
The personal family photos of many of these children and JF in photos together is so unique and sad and shocking.
