Watching Motions Hearing Live on Friday 10-10-08

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  • #862
Ok ... speaking as a former attorney ... WTF? I have never ever seen an attorney so ill prepared!! Screaming the word "objection" in court does nothing if you cannot tell the judge WHY you object; just the same as presenting a motion to the court without any legal precedence ... he did not cite a single ruling ... case ... or even a real rule of law ... he hinted at a rule of law but it was so clear that he was not familiar enough with the verbiage that he could not quote it!!

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Your perception as a former attorney about the performance of JB is wonderful to have, esp. for people like me, who know nothing about the law. I thought he looked like an anxious, sweating, pacing boob, who said "Uhm" alot, and seemed like a fish out of water when there was any exchange with the state attorneys. Glad to know that it is not just a personal feeling I have that he is really a poor lawyer. He really is a poor lawyer!
 
  • #863
Yes, He needs to rruuunn to Barnes & Nobles and grab that "Lawyerin' For Dummies" book and start reading quick.


Too funny! Yet at the same time undeniably true!!!

IMO JB did nothing if just stopping short of stomping his foot like a 2 year old SCREAMING " WE WANT WHAT THEY HAVE" ! lol

In any case this was not any real victory today as it is all what they would be granted simply pre discovery. However so many people think that what we know is equal to the state's/prosecution's case. IMHO I truly and firmly believe that to be untrue. I believe that they have a heck of alot more that we and Jose, casey do not know about.

I think judg S isnn't gonna grant JB and Casey any special stomping privileges any time soon!
 
  • #864
Boy, is Casey gonna be pissed when JB tells her that she can't go to Fusion this weekend....:behindbar
 
  • #865
They're not admissible in court so I don't think that the results are necessarily what he might be interested in...The line of questioning and the actual answers may be of value though...

Could it be he was going to try to point fingers like CA has toward individuals such as JG and AH. so he wants to see if they have passed Polys.
 
  • #866
JB is to busy baby-sitting Casey all day to do his own leg work. She's probably tying his computers, so he can't even do any research.

He doesnt have any money to hire anyone to search for him. They want all of the state's evidence for free.
 
  • #867
Sorry OT for a sec...

If someone can direct me to where I can ask this...

Does anyone know if AL confirmed that all those groceries were brought to his home? Do we know where she brought all of the groceries? If they weren't to his house then where? Thanks! Sorry OT
 
  • #868
right - he got only that to which he was legally entitled to, by all accounts, prior to today, and the "reaching" motions were all, as expected, taken under advisement. No real surprise today, if you ask me :)


Agreed.
He is entitled to what is relative and in custody or control of prosecutors...just as we have been saying all week. And that time machine is not working to burst into the future.

Prosecutor seemed miffed at suggestion her office wouldn't know they have the duty to turn over excupatory evidence.

As an aside-----

I found it somewhat amusing that tradition was broken regarding where the audience sits.
Usually it plays out like a "friends of the bride/friends of the groom" :cake: arrangement, with LE behind the prosecution...on their side.

OCSO was seated behind Baez's table, though. They were staring with arms folded. :cop::detective::nono:

Traditionally, they would sit behind the prosecution table.

I believe this was a calculated move to intimidate Atty Baez :)

jmho
 
  • #869
Boy, is Casey gonna be pissed when JB tells her that she can't go to Fusion this weekend....:behindbar
She'll be even more furious when she finds out she can't go to Target and steal an XS Mossimo sweater. How the heck is she supposed to update her fall wardrobe???:rolleyes:
 
  • #870
Ok ... speaking as a former attorney ... WTF? I have never ever seen an attorney so ill prepared!! Screaming the word "objection" in court does nothing if you cannot tell the judge WHY you object; just the same as presenting a motion to the court without any legal precedence ... he did not cite a single ruling ... case ... or even a real rule of law ... he hinted at a rule of law but it was so clear that he was not familiar enough with the verbiage that he could not quote it!!

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Reminded of "legally blond"! LOL:crazy:
 
  • #871
The motion to seal her home confinement schedule ... Is grandstanding IMO ... he kind of admitted to that when he said "If I didn't bring this up ..." blah blah ... "my clients safety" ... blah blah. It is simply so that he can say that he asked and blame the State and Judge Strickland when he loses ... and he will ... that they didn't allow her to search. That particular motion was so broad and ambiguous in its purpose and intent it will be very hard for a judge to grant in its entirety. A judge should be able to read a motion and understand what is being asked of the court ... he had to clarify over and over with Baez, "I'm just not sure I understand (...) " I half expect Baez to say "Well, it's kind of a backward way of asking ..."
 
  • #872
So let me get this straight....

The judge is allowing JB do his own testing or whatever on the forensic evidence that the police got?
 
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She'll be even more furious when she finds out she can't go to Target and steal an XS Mossimo sweater. How the heck is she supposed to update her fall wardrobe???:rolleyes:

She'll look terrific in an autumn "Classic Orange".:behindbar:behindbar:behindbar:behindbar:behindbar:behindbar:behindbar:behindbar:behindbar:behindbar:behindbar:woohoo:
 
  • #875
I do not feel that most of Baez's motions were unreasonable. I'm glad that the judge granted 7 of the 9. In regards to requesting Casey have the ability to search for her daughter: I think there was a two-fold purpose for this motion. One- the public has been asking "Why isn't Casey helping in the search for Caylee?" I think that this motion makes it clear to the public that she can not physically go and search for her daughter at this time. Just making the motion in itself speaks volumes. Two-if the motion is granted, then it will allow Casey (In Baez's eyes) to assist with the search of her daughter with the information that she and Baez have (the info that she has withheld from the police). If the motion is denied- she can't be judged for not searching because of the physical restraints of her bond agreement. JMO
 
  • #876
The motion to seal her home confinement schedule ... Is grandstanding IMO ... he kind of admitted to that when he said "If I didn't bring this up ..." blah blah ... "my clients safety" ... blah blah. It is simply so that he can say that he asked and blame the State and Judge Strickland when he loses ... and he will ... that they didn't allow her to search. That particular motion was so broad and ambiguous in its purpose and intent it will be very hard for a judge to grant in its entirety. A judge should be able to read a motion and understand what is being asked of the court ... he had to clarify over and over with Baez, "I'm just not sure I understand (...) " I half expect Baez to say "Well, it's kind of a backward way of asking ..."

Bawaahahahahhahahah. I just know he has hit the A's Kool Aid, I know it.:crazy:
 
  • #877
help me ....I dont understand why the fed gov't would have any (I dont know the word I need, interest? jurisdiction?) in this case?


I mean if there was a crossing of state llines sure but otherwise what business is it of theirs? (dont get me wrong, the more charges they can slap on supermom the better, j/w is all)

it's actually Casey's fault that the fed's are involved. She claimed the child was kidnapped by the nanny and taken out of state, maybe to NY, NJ or PR. Kidnapping across state lines gets the fed's involved. And once involved they do not get uninvolved.
 
  • #878
JB really is a ninny.
Hoping he remains as uneffective as he was today, and helps seal the fate of this "odeious creature."
 
  • #879
The motion to seal her home confinement schedule ... Is grandstanding IMO ... he kind of admitted to that when he said "If I didn't bring this up ..." blah blah ... "my clients safety" ... blah blah. It is simply so that he can say that he asked and blame the State and Judge Strickland when he loses ... and he will ... that they didn't allow her to search. That particular motion was so broad and ambiguous in its purpose and intent it will be very hard for a judge to grant in its entirety. A judge should be able to read a motion and understand what is being asked of the court ... he had to clarify over and over with Baez, "I'm just not sure I understand (...) " I half expect Baez to say "Well, it's kind of a backward way of asking ..."


Bolded by me but....ROTFLMAO:biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh:
 
  • #880
I do not feel that most of Baez's motions were unreasonable. I'm glad that the judge granted 7 of the 9. In regards to requesting Casey have the ability to search for her daughter: I think there was a two-fold purpose for this motion. One- the public has been asking "Why isn't Casey helping in the search for Caylee?" I think that this motion makes it clear to the public that she can not physically go and search for her daughter at this time. Just making the motion in itself speaks volumes. Two-if the motion is granted, then it will allow Casey (In Baez's eyes) to assist with the search of her daughter with the information that she and Baez have (the info that she has withheld from the police). If the motion is denied- she can't be judged for not searching because of the physical restraints of her bond agreement. JMO

My problem with your statement is that JB never said the purpose was for KC to help search for Caylee. The field trips are to assist with her defense-period.
To me, that speaks volumes.
 
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