What do you think Ron's testimony would be against Tommy and Misty in the drug cases?

[debs]

Frankly, the only truthful thing Ron could say at this juncture regarding those drug deals is "Man, I don't know, I was at work."

 

[MADJGNLAW]

Frankly, the only truthful thing Ron could say at this juncture regarding those drug deals is "Man, I don't know, I was at work."

:rolling::floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh::rolling: And this time he would be telling the truth...he was working them pills with Misty, so he was at "WERK" :rolling::floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh::rolling:

 

[SoSueMe]

Ron's attorney is the only one giving information out to the media about a possible plea bargain. You can bet that it's ONLY going to benefit Ron.

 

[SoSueMe]

Ron's testimony is not to make him look good, but rather to condemn Misty and Tommy. So for Ron to bring up the scenario that he was only dealing drugs to get Misty to talk about Haleigh, would seem self-serving, only making himself look better.

I do worry that if the Haleigh case is brought up throughout this plea bargaining process, what doors will it close as far as anyone testifying about his involvement in that case or any type of conspiracy? Will any and all testimony and pleas pertain ONLY to the drug charges?

I don't know, we need a criminal lawyer here.

 

[1Chump]

There is no testimony that Ron could give that cannot be proved through other evidece. Ron cannot just make something up.

They need the cooberating evidence because co-defendants have an incentive to lie to try to pin the crime on other co-defendants. So Ron would not only have to tell them what he could testify to that they do not have but provide evidence that would back him up. The evidence has to be credible evidence. A relative backing him up is not a credible witness as that relative would have incentive to lie to protect their family member.

IMO, Ron has nothing to offer the DA. His attorney is trying to negotiate a deal. But as Tommy's attorney stated the DA is not willing to negotiate. Until they offer something the DA wants, the DA has the upperhand.

BTW, when I state "DA" I mean the county prosecutor which in Florida is refered to as State Attorney. It is easier to type "DA" because most people know what "DA" stands for....county prosecutor. I noticed that it has been reported that Ron's attorney is trying to negotiate with the "State Attorney" while Werter has been trying to negotiate with the DA. They are both trying to negotiate with the same person. Werter is from New York where the county prosecutors are referred to as DA so they won't be confused with the State prosecutors who go by State Attorney.

 

[Trident]

I think Ronald is going to testify to the fact that the drug sting with the UC was not Tommy and Misty's first rodeo. If he doesn't have anything on Tommy and Misty, he can sure make it up! Probably blame some of his criminal activity on the two of them and get by with it. Ron's a choir boy. If you don't believe it, just watch HL News at 8pm!

Ron testifying against anyone in the drug deal is a joke . As someone else said, his mouth was too full of the 'stuff' we saw him slip in his mouth. However, everything in someone's pocket isn't a spare ace and haloes aren't the only things held over people's heads. Maybe, in my opinion, the sheriff's son was just a taste of how ugly this can get. Just maybe? 'Course I don't know any facts, just what I see, and what "I" see ain't pretty. 'Course I don't see much of anything from LE, no info, no body, no arrests, but I can smell Putnam County from hundeds of miles away.

Cut that man a deal, an Ipod, and a meal. His daughtr's gone missing don'tcha know.

My opinon only

 

[TrialAddict]

Wonder where, Ron will move to if he does testify against ANYONE in a deal that's has to do with drugs. He will have to watch his back forever if he does.

 

[debs]

Wonder where, Ron will move to if he does testify against ANYONE in a deal that's has to do with drugs. He will have to watch his back forever if he if he does.

He'll move from a county jail to a state prison.

 

[Quiche]

I posted this last night about this subject-- quoting myself rather than repeating... :innocent:

Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - 2010.05.13 -Ronald & Hank Jr. Hearing: Ron negotiating for 15yr sentence, Trial 7/19

 

[LaLaw2000]

Well, I have been infuriated about the very idea that Ronald will get a deal. The only place we have heard from about this 'deal' is from Ronald's own lawyer and the media. Then we have the JVM and NG shows expounding ad nauseum on the issue.

Ronald can and will implicate others in his trial if he does go as far as a trial. I expect to hear Ronald claim that some of the pills that were sold came from Hank, Sr. Next he will implicate WBG and any others he can think of. There seems to be a history of 'squealing' on his (Ronald's) suppliers when he (Ronald) gets caught. Ronald seems to have learned this trick early on. In fact, I think the only reason Ronald even ever had a permit to carry a gun was because he had 'squealed' in the past and felt he was in danger from the ones he had squealed on.

I believe that Ronald has told his lawyer that the source of all of these pills that were sold in the UC sting was from someone or people that Misty hooked him up with. In this way, he will tell LE that this whole operation was Misty's idea. Let's also not forget Donna. Ronald will say that some of the prescription drugs sold came from Donna and Misty getting prescriptions from doctors.

All of this is what I think Ronald's testimony would amount to. BUT, LE doesn't need any of Ronald's testimony. All of the ones charged were caught in an undercover sting and are on video. I am totally 100% against Ronald Cummings or any of the rest of them getting any deals or breaks on crimes where they have been caught dead to rights.

JMO, as always.

 

[TrialAddict]

Well, I have been infuriated about the very idea that Ronald will get a deal. The only place we have heard from about this 'deal' is from Ronald's own lawyer and the media. Then we have the JVM and NG shows expounding ad nauseum on the issue.

Ronald can and will implicate others in his trial if he does go as far as a trial. I expect to hear Ronald claim that some of the pills that were sold came from Hank, Sr. Next he will implicate WBG and any others he can think of. There seems to be a history of 'squealing' on his (Ronald's) suppliers when he (Ronald) gets caught. Ronald seems to have learned this trick early on. In fact, I think the only reason Ronald even ever had a permit to carry a gun was because he had 'squealed' in the past and felt he was in danger from the ones he had squealed on.

I believe that Ronald has told his lawyer that the source of all of these pills that were sold in the UC sting was from someone or people that Misty hooked him up with. In this way, he will tell LE that this whole operation was Misty's idea. Let's also not forget Donna. Ronald will say that some of the prescription drugs sold came from Donna and Misty getting prescriptions from doctors.

All of this is what I think Ronald's testimony would amount to. BUT, LE doesn't need any of Ronald's testimony. All of the ones charged were caught in an undercover sting and are on video. I am totally 100% against Ronald Cummings or any of the rest of them getting any deals or breaks on crimes where they have been caught dead to rights.

JMO, as always.

Would his testimony have to be about this drug bust only? If he brings up Donna and her ability to get the prescriptions from a Dr.s office, would have to be able to prove she did?

I am just asking, because,Ron can say anything he wants to, but does he have to be able to prove what he says?

 

[LaLaw2000]

Would his testimony have to be about this drug bust only? If he brings up Donna and her ability to get the prescriptions from a Dr.s office, would have to be able to prove she did?

I am just asking, because,Ron can say anything he wants to, but does he have to be able to prove what he says?

BBM: That is information that is already known, IMO. I believe it had come out that Donna and Misty got prescriptions from a Virginia dentist. IIRC, because I so not have a link.


And no, I would not think that the information would have to be from this drug bust only if it pertains to the way this little 'gang' came to be. I think Ronald would like for everyone, including LE, to think that this whole drug selling operation was someone else's idea. He probably wants people to think (especially Ms. NG) that he was just shadowing Misty because he thought she may lead him to information concerning HaLeigh's disappearance.

Personally, I have never believed a word out of Ronald's mouth beginning on the very first day. I simply cannot see Ronald getting any kind of deal because of his past record as well as having been seen and heard on the UC video proving he is as big a criminal as he has ever accused anyone else of being.

JMO, but I just cannot see Ronald having anything of value to testify to against Misty unless it pertains to Haleigh's case. And that type of testimony does not have anything to do with the UC drug sting. I am not thinking there will be any deal at all. JMO. Ronald's lawyer is trying to get Ronald a deal, but that does not mean it will be accepted by the prosecutor.

JMO

 

[Whisperer]

Ron'a singing like the canary he is. Almost everyone is locked up and some from Satsuma. WBG is back in jail. The only ones missing are Nay and Amber. He is talking and giving info on anyone he has ever known that dealt him, misty or tommy pills. He is not beyond doing anything to save himself.

I get the impression that ron runs into trouble with the law whenever he is left alone in llife w/o a female to protect or take the rap for him. He hides behind the females and lets them do the work; he probably takes a cut of the money or drugs for himself.

Ron goes on the hunt for girls and moves them right in; he does this to save himself because he is dangerous alone and he knows it. He will be arrested for something if let to his own devices. A female and the kids keeps him out of trouble....take note, it didn't help any of the females and it certainly hasn't been a benefit for the kids either. He is better off in prison and so are some future girls.

 

[Whisperer]

Just like he told hope he would take her charges for her....this guy is not doing anything for anyone. IMO, he has nothing to offer up about tommy or misty that would help him get off the most serious charges.

On tape, misty wasn't the mastermind. Ron gave the uc the price, the offer to sell and distribute and full intention of getting him a supply. misty did none of these. She repeated a correct price after ron, indicating rc knew how many drugs she was giving and the price before she dealt. For the life of me, I don't understand how that was not obvious to all those who keep saying misty is the 'Mastermind"...simply not so.

IMO, he has nothing to offer concering the drug scheme as he is more guilty than the rest. Shoey is blowing smoke....won't be the first time.

Of course, they all get deals if they don't go to trial. rc has asked for a trial and if he changes his mind he will get a deal....just like anyone else. They do reward for not making them put on a full court circus.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

What is bothering me is Ron's docket has not changed since 5/6.

2010-05-06 30 NOTICE OF HEARING SET ON 05/07/2010 AT 2:00 PM
2010-05-06 30 STATE'S MOTION FOR PRODUCTION AND DISCLOSURE OF SOURCE
2010-05-06 30 OF BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL PRIOR TO DEFENDANT'S
2010-05-06 30 RELEASE ON BAIL (NEBBIA HEARING)

Misty's has changed since then. I would really like to know what is going on.

2010-03-31 23 CONTINUED TO 06/03/2010
2010-04-02 24 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (06/03/2010)
2010-04-02 25 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (06/03/2010) IN JAIL
2010-04-09 26 SUPPLEMENTAL DISCOVERY / WITNESS LIST
2010-05-11 27 NOTICE OF TAKING DEPOSITION
2010-05-11 28 SUBPOENA FOR DEPOSITION ISSUED TO: DET TIM CAMPBELL
2010-05-11 28 TO BE TAKEN 05/19/2010 AT 11:00 AM
2010-05-11 29 SUBPOENA FOR DEPOSITION ISSUED TO: DET JAMES HEATH
2010-05-11 29 TO BE TAKEN 05/19/2010 AT 11:20 AM
2010-05-11 30 SUBPOENA FOR DEPOSITION ISSUED TO: LT. DON TINGLEY
2010-05-11 30 TO BE TAKEN 05/19/2010 AT 11:40 AM

Type in Cummings% on the left in the name part.

 

[Bobbisangel]

I don't see any reason for Ron to testify against them when it's obvious he was as much a part of the deals as they were. Has to be more to this than just testifying in the drug trafficking case.

Ron will be testifying against Misty at her drug trial so Haleigh won't be able to be brought in. We have only seen a tiny bit of a couple videos so who knows what is one the whole videos. I can't think of what Ron would testify about either. They have the videos so I don't know why they would need anyone to testify. Guess we will have to wait and see what happens.

 

[passionflower]

Bet RC squeals out all suppliers (his own mother and GGS?), dealers, (MC)buyers (Hank/Lisa/ToC) etc.
I for 1 want to know who his VA guy supplier was in the tape!
WBG is in jail along with Talon now also.
Who's next?
Oh where is Haleigh???

 

[TxLady2]

Ron will be testifying against Misty at her drug trial so Haleigh won't be able to be brought in. We have only seen a tiny bit of a couple videos so who knows what is one the whole videos. I can't think of what Ron would testify about either. They have the videos so I don't know why they would need anyone to testify. Guess we will have to wait and see what happens.

I realize Haleigh's case is separate... that's why I'm saying... what could he possibly be able to testify to, since he was in on the drug trafficking too? Unless he is an informant, and was there as a plant. That happens, but I just don't think it's true in this case.

 

[jnTexas]

Ron testifying against misty:

I was scared she made me do it. It was all her idea. I just went along with her to find my heart. Oh and i seen 3.

I still think it's the lawyers wishful thinking, and Le has not offered them anything. JMO

 

[atherella]

Here's a guess as to what he may testify to in Misty's trial. (I have no guesses in Tommy's trial).

It seems clear that Fields is preparing for a trial for Misty given that he is doing depositions this week. Since they have Misty on video, Fields is going to need some sort of trial strategy. My guess is Fields will use "entrapment" saying that LE went after her due to the "HaLeigh case".

Ronald can testify as to how the drug dealing began - how they came into contact with the undercover officer (which is NOT on video). Things like that.

As for Tommy, I really have no guesses. We haven't seen his video that I can recall.