When Was Haleigh Last Seen?

[Whisperer]

Yep, Debs....that was the very first report. Ron came home and woke his cousin (gf) up. Who was the last person to see Haleigh alive? Why can't we get a straight answer from anyone in this case.

Why can't anyone from PDM talk? Why don't we know the hours? The logic of LE would be to clear up rc and misty FIRST. It has to be obvious to all who follow that neither have been cleared because NEITHER of their stories are accurate; thus, the need for Criminal Defense Attorneys by both of them. I can't get around the fact they both hired them and did not cooperate after the wedding.

The first time we heard from rc after the wedding was the day after he was arrested. Conincidence, I think not! He wanted to speak THEN, but not about his crime, but took the opportunity to say, "Let's keep this about Haleigh". Why not talk about her for the other five months? This was the same time LE said neither were cooperating and they were resisting talking to LE. Shortly after the interview, FDLE inisisted rc explain the cell phone calls for that evening. He arrived with his attorney at his side.

.....a side note for anyone that cares to review that interview the day after his arrest, the cameras focused on his dilated pupils......WHY? Do you suppose they (the media) were making a subtle point? Highly unusual for the media, wouldn't you say? I have to wonder if the media swung by PCSO and they said release it, as is.

We are dealing with a homicide investigation with the two main players. I can't come to any other conclusion based on the way the investigation is being handled.

 

[Whisperer]

Concerning the attendance record. If my suspicions are accurate, and that typed in portion was added later, then I would say it would be the Cummings side that would benefit and released it. Somebody demanded the record from the school district and released it. The school would not have released it on their own.

It also could be that when it was picked up from the school somebody wanted the school to type in those explanations so the public would know that Haleigh was always on time when she was marked "present"...totally unnecessary since there were "T's" for tardy already on the report. Where I live, the school would not have done that, but Florida is a whole new adventure for me.

 

[suspicious1]

The one thing that is tripping y'all up is the work hours. His shift start time moved from 3:30 to 5:00 per Shoe [which don't even make sense and might account for his laying low in the media lately.JMO] Watch that shift time clock run backward a bit, too, for quittin' time.

Mark my words, ladies and gents: everything you think you know about Ron's alibi does not jibe with the truth. [That's my opinion based on FACTS I know.]

LF, I believe you 100%. His work hours were always a problem for me. I didn't believe Ron from the get go. I don't know exactly how long he was at work but whatever happened that day occured while Ron was Not at work. I tend to lean more toward something happening to Haleigh BEFORE he went to work though. At first I was led to believe that Ron just dropped Haleigh off after picking her up from the bus stop,(3:30-ish) went to work and did not return until 3am. Then Shoey says Ron went to work at 5.WTF?

I believe that Ron went into work late maybe about 5, soo that would mean that after he picked up Haleigh he had a little time to spare. In which time I think something happened to Haleigh. After that he went into work and Misty recalls Haleigh "doing fine" about 5ish (odd choice of words). Why would she not be "doing fine"? I believe Ron may have went to work panicking about what happened to Haleigh so he calls his mother to check on her(probably around his first break, maybe 6:30-7:00p). Tn panicks and sends over GMS and the NURSE between 7-8P. GMS is caught in a LIE about being inside the mh. But why LIE? Something is really wrong with Haleigh. Ron and Misty argue that evening probably about the events that took place surrounding Haleigh. Maybe Ron was blaiming her for what happened although it was he who had done the most damage. Hence, everyone protecting Ron and totally backing Misty's story (imo, because Misty is backing their story).
:twocents:

 

[suspicious1]

Wasn'tthere screams heard that night coming from the mh? Does anybody remember what time that was? tia

 

[debs]

Wasn'tthere screams heard that night coming from the mh? Does anybody remember what time that was? tia

I'm using my recollection, but it was reported in the news that a neighbor heard screams around 2-230....but that's using my memory, and frankly with a headcold, take it for what that's worth

 

[Baznme]

LF, I believe you 100%. His work hours were always a problem for me. I didn't believe Ron from the get go. I don't know exactly how long he was at work but whatever happened that day occured while Ron was Not at work. I tend to lean more toward something happening to Haleigh BEFORE he went to work though. At first I was led to believe that Ron just dropped Haleigh off after picking her up from the bus stop,(3:30-ish) went to work and did not return until 3am. Then Shoey says Ron went to work at 5.WTF?

I believe that Ron went into work late maybe about 5, soo that would mean that after he picked up Haleigh he had a little time to spare. In which time I think something happened to Haleigh. After that he went into work and Misty recalls Haleigh "doing fine" about 5ish (odd choice of words). Why would she not be "doing fine"? I believe Ron may have went to work panicking about what happened to Haleigh so he calls his mother to check on her(probably around his first break, maybe 6:30-7:00p). Tn panicks and sends over GMS and the NURSE between 7-8P. GMS is caught in a LIE about being inside the mh. But why LIE? Something is really wrong with Haleigh. Ron and Misty argue that evening probably about the events that took place surrounding Haleigh. Maybe Ron was blaiming her for what happened although it was he who had done the most damage. Hence, everyone protecting Ron and totally backing Misty's story (imo, because Misty is backing their story).
:twocents:

Suspicious, IMO this scenario is right on. It's the only one I've seen that makes any real sense.

 

[LFlorida]

So let's go back to Haleigh's weekend.

What do we know about where she was Friday after school up until Monday morning?

Everything indicates that Misty was out of the mobile home from Friday until at least Sunday afternoon [maybe until Monday evening, imo, but jmo.]

So, did Ron stay at the mobile home and babysit all weekend? Did he and the children go anywhere or do anything or see anybody?

Did one of Ron's moms keep the kids over the weekend so Ron could go out jukin'? If he and Misty did break up the week before, I would imagine Teresa or Annette would be willing to watch the kids while he went out looking for a new gal.

Did we ever track down the reported fishing trip with the kids in the boat?

Have Teresa and Annette stated anything about seeing the kids on the weekend?

 

[YellowSubmarine]

He lallygagged all the way home and even stopped at the store before going home.

IMO, this is a big clue and tends to point to RC's guilt about something. MC just got home from a 3 day sex & drug bender, they were fighting and MC shut her phone off - which had been off for 7 hours when he allegedly gets off work, he's worried enough to the point to call his mom and MC's brother to check on the kids . . . BUT not so worried that he's gonna cruise to the local convenient store for beer and cigs? Don't think so.

I think suspicious1's threory is very possible. Either that or RC did come home early and found his kids there alone and did something to Haleigh (maybe not intending on hurting her) to punish MC. Then he slips back out and waits for her to get home so he can come back and put on his little charade. Maybe MC really doesn't know what happened but isn't about to admit she was gone.

I'd love to see RC's honest to goodness work hours for that night and/or if it is absolutely certain he was there all night. Remember, LE never has stated he was at work or what time, only that they are "satisfied with his whereabouts". It's pretty vague and could mean anything.


ETA: Another reason something seems suspicious surrounding RC and work is because of how many times he responded to questions with a shrug and a smug "I don't know, I was at work". Everytime he said it, I wanted to reach through the tv and slap him! He never said "this is what we think happened" or "it's possible that . . ." or "From what I was told" or even "I wish I knew that". It's like he didn't even care to know the answers or the details. Which was reinforced when NG asked him why he wasn't asking MC questions and he said something to the effect "I don't know"

Also would be nice to see the original school attendance record and an explanation why Haleigh is marked present on 2/24

 

[YellowSubmarine]

LF - I'm with you. I'd love some answers! It's very frustrating that we know NOTHING. Leaves me a little nervous that maybe it's because LE doesn't know anything either.

It's been almost a year! Come on already!

 

[debs]

:croc:

But if the story is true that GGMS brought laundry over - that laundry could of been Haleighs school clothes for the week and GGMS had washed them over the weekend when she was taking care of the kids. The clothes could of been hung in the closet after the fact. I noticed some still had tags on them, where they too big? Also alot of times kids closets have clothes they have outgrown etc still hanging up - probably not as much as in places that have drastic season changes. My daughters closet right now has summer and spring clothes still hanging in there - that she will not be able to wear next spring and summer I just haven't gone thru them to sort and donate. Like I said what strikes me as odd is loading everyone up in the morning to go get the outfit.

So let's go back to Haleigh's weekend.

What do we know about where she was Friday after school up until Monday morning?

Everything indicates that Misty was out of the mobile home from Friday until at least Sunday afternoon [maybe until Monday evening, imo, but jmo.]

So, did Ron stay at the mobile home and babysit all weekend? Did he and the children go anywhere or do anything or see anybody?

Did one of Ron's moms keep the kids over the weekend so Ron could go out jukin'? If he and Misty did break up the week before, I would imagine Teresa or Annette would be willing to watch the kids while he went out looking for a new gal.

Did we ever track down the reported fishing trip with the kids in the boat?

Have Teresa and Annette stated anything about seeing the kids on the weekend?

According to what Busy posted in another thread, looks like the kids were with GGM.

 

[YellowSubmarine]

I'm using my recollection, but it was reported in the news that a neighbor heard screams around 2-230....but that's using my memory, and frankly with a headcold, take it for what that's worth

That's what I remember, too. But, like everything else, that bit of info is off in limbo somewhere.

 

[LFlorida]

Good to know I'm not the only one yelling back at the TV, throwing shoes at it, etc... My kids friends' eyes get sooo big whenever I start doing that. Kinda glad Mz. Nayanss hasn't had the story on in a while. [mebbe the kids will forget Mz. LFlorida talks to the tv.]

;D

 

[kiki the parrot]

Well if Ronald got out of work at midnight that could explain why Misty's voice stress analysis showed as unsure when she was asked if Ronald could have done something to HaLeigh. Maybe Misty was sleeping when Ronald got home shortly after midnight but HaLeigh woke up because she had wet the bed and her cloths were wet too and Ronald lost it. That could also explain why Misty didn't know what HaLeigh was wearing because Ronald may have started to clean her up so he took her cloths off, hence the pink shirt in the laundry. Some kids hate having their shirts pulled over their heads regardless of how gentle you try to be but imagine if Ronald was pizzed at her for wetting herself and he roughly yanked the shirt off over her head hurting her and she begins to fuss which in turn escalates his anger. He's pizzed because he came home to "this" and all the while Misty is sleeping like a log.

When he realized that he'd gone too far this time, he could have called Teresa in a panic and maybe Teresa asked him where Misty was when "it" happened and he told her that she never heard a thing, she slept right through it and she was still out cold. That could be when/how the plan hatched. Ronald could get rid of HaLeigh, stage the back door to make it look like someone came in and took HaLeigh while Misty was sleeping. He'd go to the store, get beer and peanuts and alibi himself on surveillance video, then go back home, wake Misty up yelling and asking her "Where the f*** is my daughter b****?!! Acting as if he'd just gotten home from werk, noticed the backdoor was "wide open" and HaLeigh missing. All while he was at werk... I think it's possible.
JMHO -

(bbm) I think it's possible too nms... only I'd have MC gone since, no matter how "tired," I don't believe she could've been in that mh and slept thru a homicidal rage. IMO this scenario could've easily taken place were MC not home as expected, but kids left there alone at the time RC pays a surprise visit and shows up early. The rest isn't hard for me to envision.

bbm
[B]They are all a part of this. I bet part of the plan orchestrated by TN was for no one to know that GMS had been in the mh because that would lead to finding out about the Aunt-the nurse. They did not want that to happen. She told MC to act like it was a normal night (after they left) with regular bedtime hours, the whole nine. As far as this visit from GMS and the nurse, they each had a story to tell. Misty-did as she was told and never mentioned the visit. TN-brought the visit up claiming to have sent A family member over to CHECK ON THE KIDS only when there was rumor of Misty not being there that night. Why would Tn then tell about sending someone over there? Why not entertain the possibility of Misty not being there? TN HAD to reveal that little bit of information...but why? Was Misty out with TN or GMs that night at some point? IJDK. It's funny how no one wanted to discuss the other family member who was there and has had NURSE TRAINING. Then here comes GMS-claiming to have been there but NEVER went inside, just there TO DROP OFF SOME CLOTHES. So which is it? Was GMS there to check on the kids or drop off some clothes? All LIES!!!!! Did we even hear from the Aunt? I haven't but why not? in my puzzle SHE is one of the missing pieces. [/B]

His work hours were always a problem for me. I didn't believe Ron from the get go. I don't know exactly how long he was at work but whatever happened that day occured while Ron was Not at work. I tend to lean more toward something happening to Haleigh BEFORE he went to work though. At first I was led to believe that Ron just dropped Haleigh off after picking her up from the bus stop,(3:30-ish) went to work and did not return until 3am. Then Shoey says Ron went to work at 5.WTF?

I believe that Ron went into work late maybe about 5, soo that would mean that after he picked up Haleigh he had a little time to spare. In which time I think something happened to Haleigh. After that he went into work and Misty recalls Haleigh "doing fine" about 5ish (odd choice of words). Why would she not be "doing fine"? I believe Ron may have went to work panicking about what happened to Haleigh so he calls his mother to check on her(probably around his first break, maybe 6:30-7:00p). Tn panicks and sends over GMS and the NURSE between 7-8P. GMS is caught in a LIE about being inside the mh. But why LIE? Something is really wrong with Haleigh. Ron and Misty argue that evening probably about the events that took place surrounding Haleigh. Maybe Ron was blaiming her for what happened although it was he who had done the most damage. Hence, everyone protecting Ron and totally backing Misty's story (imo, because Misty is backing their story). :twocents:

(snip, bbm) This is the other distinct possibility in my mind--that w/e occurred took place prior to RC ever leaving for work. Certainly seems more than coincidental that nurse Elisa may have been summoned and tagged along w GMS. The rest of the evening's events--after RC left for werk--may have all been consumed w or centered around clean-up and disposal. TC may honestly never have been clued in and actually did arrive to find nobody home about 10. Unlikely he'd have placed himself at the scene otherwise.

An "accident" of some sort, occurring between the bus dropoff (at 3:20) and actual time RC left for work is where my money is (if I were a betting bird). Re attendance record, not only do I not see where all the other figures in columns could be reconciled w an altered mark, but more importantly it would have been useless to alter the attendance record when it's so easily disproven thus waving a red flag to LE which would have only served to raise their suspicions instantly. ETA I am quite sure an interview w Haleigh's teacher was one of the first conducted in the days following her disappearance. JMO

arrot:

 

[LFlorida]

We def need
Stormy

to get back on here. She had the scoop for sure.

 

[suspicious1]

I'm using my recollection, but it was reported in the news that a neighbor heard screams around 2-230....but that's using my memory, and frankly with a headcold, take it for what that's worth

I thought that it was about 2am, debs. That makes me wonder if the call at 2:13 supposedly from Tyler actually came from the neighbor on Green Ln who heard the screams. It's highly possible that the neighbor was the one who called the NON EMERGENCY line to report there suspicions/screams. Perhaps a patrol car went to the neighbors house first on Green Ln to speak with the neighbor and was given a description of the people/vehicles involved in the disturbance which led the patrol car over to Tyler St.
In the radio transcript the officer that was at Tyler said that he was on his way BACK to Green Ln.

snipped from transcript:

OP: Call back 1256. 1256. ____telephone____ordinary. Want me to call it in for you? 10:4.
FLE2: 1256.
FLE2: I’m available at 116 Tyler.
OP: 116 Tyler? (static) 26.
MLE1: What’s going on at 116?
FLE2: 1256.
OP: Go head.
FLE2: 10:08 from this location, going 97, back to Green.
OP: 10:4. Verifying the last time she was seen ____address.
FLE2: She was seen within her residence, about 1 to 1 1/2 hours ago..

bbm
This is the radio transmission AFTER the 911 call from Misty. At that time there was an officer at 116 Tyler headed BACK to Green. That goes along with an officer visiting another residence on Green BEFORE going to Tyler and BEFORE the 911 call from Misty was made. Perhaps from the person who heard screams that night?

Let's say the neighbor calls in the suspicious activity at 2:13a. Let's say it takes the patrol car about 15 mins to get there (estimating here), that would put a patrol car on Green Ln at about 2:30. Whatever information they gathered from this visit sent them to 116 Tyler. Let's say the officer ended up on Tyler at about 3a. While there (probably 20-30 mins at most) they receive the information concerning a missing child from Green Ln at 3:27a.
Now
If this is the radio transmission from the 911 call from Misty, that statement regarding Haleigh being seen within her residence 1-1 1/2 hours ago would mean someone from Tyler was at that residence at about 2a-ish.
Misty's 911 call came in at 3:27(?)
1-1 1/2 hours prior to that would be 2-2:30am.
Someone from Tyler was there between 2-2:30a, when the neighbor heard the screams.

It all fits together, imo. There must have been an altercation on Green Ln before Haliegh was reported missing and the information given led police to Tyler St. Maybe when the police heard over the radio about the missing girl from Green Ln, they asked the people from Tyler if they had seen her since they had just previously been in that area. Someone said "yes-about 1-1 1/2 hours ago". (2-2:30a)

Not to mention Lt. Greenwood saying that the initial call came in at 2:13a. Why would he include that call as part of this investigation? What was going on 2-2:30a that night? My gut feeling tells me that there was a altercation (screams) involving a group of individuals related to this case. Maybe that's why I suspect that LE knows Ron was not at work until 3.....because he was involved in the altercation that occurred between 2-2:30. (Commotion may also equal scratched van)
Ok I know that Ron was seen on surveillance at the store and many people questioned why Ron would pass his house to go to the store when if he was coming from work, there were stores along the way between PDM and the mh.

If you go with this theory: Ron went to that particular store because he was closest to it at that time. He wasn't coming from work, imo, he was coming from home. Let's say if there was an altercation 2-2:30a on Green and Hank&company went straight back to Tyler and guess what? Ron went to the store. They all probably feared that someone was going to call the police anyway because of the commotion and they all scattered like roaches including Ron (trip to the store). He needed a beer and cigarettes after all that commotion!

After he got back from the store, guzzled down his beer, smoked a few cigarettes.....It was time to make the call-3:27a Haleigh is Missing.

 

[LFlorida]

Concerning the attendance record. If my suspicions are accurate, and that typed in portion was added later, then I would say it would be the Cummings side that would benefit and released it. Somebody demanded the record from the school district and released it. The school would not have released it on their own.

It also could be that when it was picked up from the school somebody wanted the school to type in those explanations so the public would know that Haleigh was always on time when she was marked "present"...totally unnecessary since there were "T's" for tardy already on the report. Where I live, the school would not have done that, but Florida is a whole new adventure for me.

My kids don't go to Browning-Pierce, but I can't imagine any school secretary or administrator typing in the explanations. Maybe a post-it note, maybe handwritten on the page, but to drag out a typewriter? No way.

[JMO, but whoever decided that little touch might make it look more authentic ain't too bright.]

 

[debs]

I thought that it was about 2am, debs. That makes me wonder if the call at 2:13 supposedly from Tyler actually came from the neighbor on Green Ln who heard the screams. It's highly possible that the neighbor was the one who called the NON EMERGENCY line to report there suspicions/screams. Perhaps a patrol car went to the neighbors house first on Green Ln to speak with the neighbor and was given a description of the people/vehicles involved in the disturbance which led the patrol car over to Tyler St.
In the radio transcript the officer that was at Tyler said that he was on his way BACK to Green Ln.

snipped from transcript:

OP: Call back 1256. 1256. ____telephone____ordinary. Want me to call it in for you? 10:4.
FLE2: 1256.
FLE2: I’m available at 116 Tyler.
OP: 116 Tyler? (static) 26.
MLE1: What’s going on at 116?
FLE2: 1256.
OP: Go head.
FLE2: 10:08 from this location, going 97, back to Green.
OP: 10:4. Verifying the last time she was seen ____address.
FLE2: She was seen within her residence, about 1 to 1 1/2 hours ago..

bbm
This is the radio transmission AFTER the 911 call from Misty. At that time there was an officer at 116 Tyler headed BACK to Green. That goes along with an officer visiting another residence on Green BEFORE going to Tyler and BEFORE the 911 call from Misty was made. Perhaps from the person who heard screams that night?

Let's say the neighbor calls in the suspicious activity at 2:13a. Let's say it takes the patrol car about 15 mins to get there (estimating here), that would put a patrol car on Green Ln at about 2:30. Whatever information they gathered from this visit sent them to 116 Tyler. Let's say the officer ended up on Tyler at about 3a. While there (probably 20-30 mins at most) they receive the information concerning a missing child from Green Ln at 3:27a.
Now
If this is the radio transmission from the 911 call from Misty, that statement regarding Haleigh being seen within her residence 1-1 1/2 hours ago would mean someone from Tyler was at that residence at about 2a-ish.
Misty's 911 call came in at 3:27(?)
1-1 1/2 hours prior to that would be 2-2:30am.
Someone from Tyler was there between 2-2:30a, when the neighbor heard the screams.

It all fits together, imo. There must have been an altercation on Green Ln before Haliegh was reported missing and the information given led police to Tyler St. Maybe when the police heard over the radio about the missing girl from Green Ln, they asked the people from Tyler if they had seen her since they had just previously been in that area. Someone said "yes-about 1-1 1/2 hours ago". (2-2:30a)

Not to mention Lt. Greenwood saying that the initial call came in at 2:13a. Why would he include that call as part of this investigation? What was going on 2-2:30a that night? My gut feeling tells me that there was a altercation (screams) involving a group of individuals related to this case. Maybe that's why I suspect that LE knows Ron was not at work until 3.....because he was involved in the altercation that occurred between 2-2:30.
Ok I know that Ron was seen on surveillance at the store and many people questioned why Ron would pass his house to go to the store when if he was coming from work there were stores along the way between PDM and the mh.

If you go with this theory: Ron went to that particular store because he was closest to it at that time. He wasn't coming from work, imo, he was coming from home. Let's say if there was an altercation 2-2:30a on Green and Hank&company went straight back to Tyler and guess what? Ron went to the store. They all probably feared that someone was going to call the police anyway and they all scattered including Ron (trip to the store). He needed a beer and cigarettes after all that commotion!

After he got back from the store, guzzled down his beer, smoked a few cigarettes.....It was time to make the call-3:27a Haleigh is Missing.

HOLD THE PHONE!

You're maybe making a suggestion that LE was called to Green Ln, went to Tyler to follow up on whatever happened on Green, then was called back to Green after the 911 call regarding Haleigh?

Holy buckets!

 

[LFlorida]

I thought that it was about 2am, debs. That makes me wonder if the call at 2:13 supposedly from Tyler actually came from the neighbor on Green Ln who heard the screams. It's highly possible that the neighbor was the one who called the NON EMERGENCY line to report there suspicions/screams. Perhaps a patrol car went to the neighbors house first on Green Ln to speak with the neighbor and was given a description of the people/vehicles involved in the disturbance which led the patrol car over to Tyler St.
In the radio transcript the officer that was at Tyler said that he was on his way BACK to Green Ln.

snipped from transcript:

OP: Call back 1256. 1256. ____telephone____ordinary. Want me to call it in for you? 10:4.
FLE2: 1256.
FLE2: I’m available at 116 Tyler.
OP: 116 Tyler? (static) 26.
MLE1: What’s going on at 116?
FLE2: 1256.
OP: Go head.
FLE2: 10:08 from this location, going 97, back to Green.
OP: 10:4. Verifying the last time she was seen ____address.
FLE2: She was seen within her residence, about 1 to 1 1/2 hours ago..

bbm
This is the radio transmission AFTER the 911 call from Misty. At that time there was an officer at 116 Tyler headed BACK to Green. That goes along with an officer visiting another residence on Green BEFORE going to Tyler and BEFORE the 911 call from Misty was made. Perhaps from the person who heard screams that night?

Let's say the neighbor calls in the suspicious activity at 2:13a. Let's say it takes the patrol car about 15 mins to get there (estimating here), that would put a patrol car on Green Ln at about 2:30. Whatever information they gathered from this visit sent them to 116 Tyler. Let's say the officer ended up on Tyler at about 3a. While there (probably 20-30 mins at most) they receive the information concerning a missing child from Green Ln at 3:27a.
Now
If this is the radio transmission from the 911 call from Misty, that statement regarding Haleigh being seen within her residence 1-1 1/2 hours ago would mean someone from Tyler was at that residence at about 2a-ish.
Misty's 911 call came in at 3:27(?)
1-1 1/2 hours prior to that would be 2-2:30am.
Someone from Tyler was there between 2-2:30a, when the neighbor heard the screams.

It all fits together, imo. There must have been an altercation on Green Ln before Haliegh was reported missing and the information given led police to Tyler St. Maybe when the police heard over the radio about the missing girl from Green Ln, they asked the people from Tyler if they had seen her since they had just previously been in that area. Someone said "yes-about 1-1 1/2 hours ago". (2-2:30a)

Not to mention Lt. Greenwood saying that the initial call came in at 2:13a. Why would he include that call as part of this investigation? What was going on 2-2:30a that night? My gut feeling tells me that there was a altercation (screams) involving a group of individuals related to this case. Maybe that's why I suspect that LE knows Ron was not at work until 3.....because he was involved in the altercation that occurred between 2-2:30.
Ok I know that Ron was seen on surveillance at the store and many people questioned why Ron would pass his house to go to the store when if he was coming from work there were stores along the way between PDM and the mh.

If you go with this theory: Ron went to that particular store because he was closest to it at that time. He wasn't coming from work, imo, he was coming from home. Let's say if there was an altercation 2-2:30a on Green and Hank&company went straight back to Tyler and guess what? Ron went to the store. They all probably feared that someone was going to call the police anyway and they all scattered including Ron (trip to the store). He needed a beer and cigarettes after all that commotion!

After he got back from the store, guzzled down his beer, smoked a few cigarettes.....It was time to make the call-3:27a Haleigh is Missing.

I think you're probably right on the mark w/this. Gotta try to get it straight in my head though - might take me a day or so, lol.

Only thing I see "wrong" is that the neighbor would've called 911, I think, not the 9-0800 #.

Also, the quickest, shortest route to Green Ln goes right past the Croslin's house on Tyler. [I'm not sure what, if anything, I'm trying to say with this part. sorry.]

 

[lonetraveler]

BBM....

That just jumped off the page at me. I always thought if indeed she went there, it was because of what ever happened. And the Aunt or whatever she was had nurses training? OMG.............arrest em all already.

tehcloser, I'm with you. Reading the post about GGMS reminded me of a comment that she made early in the case, a comment that she had received a call earlier in the morning from Ron but did not answer it. Later on she decided to answer another call and that was supposedly when she found out that Haleigh was missing. I'm going to try and find that interview, it was in her own words and not from a blog or anything. Does anyone else remember this? by any chance?

 

[lonetraveler]

I think you're probably right on the mark w/this. Gotta try to get it straight in my head though - might take me a day or so, lol.

Only thing I see "wrong" is that the neighbor would've called 911, I think, not the 9-0800 #.

Also, the quickest, shortest route to Green Ln goes right past the Croslin's house on Tyler. [I'm not sure what, if anything, I'm trying to say with this part. sorry.]

IIRC, the original call from the Tyler residence was not a call made to the 911 line.