Who Killed Jon Benet Ramsey? Poll

[Chanler]

I was absolutely stunned when they announced this new DNA that they found. WHY..............would this mean that someone other that the Ramsey's killed Jon Benet? For what reason? Would that mean that this person also wrote the ransom note? Do they have someone in mind?

It's so inconclusive..........I don't know what to think!
Hopefully we'll hear more later.

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Handwriting analysis is much more malleable and less reliable than DNA evidence; ask any prosecutor.

For what reason? Pedophiles crave sex with children and sometimes kill them.

 

[Beyond Belief]

An arrest with a real confession and dna match might make this more real.

 

[BBB167893]

An arrest with a real confession and dna match might make this more real.

Or at least a full press release.

One article I read says only parts of the longjohns were tested, not the whole thing.

 

[Chanler]

Or at least a full press release.

One article I read says only parts of the longjohns were tested, not the whole thing.

Since DNA swipes are often minute, even microscopic, tests could be continued almost indefinitely. One assumes that there was extensive microscopic examination of the long-johns.

 

[BBB167893]

Never assume anything, Chanler. Especially where this case is concerned.

 

[Chanler]

Never assume anything, Chanler. Especially where this case is concerned.

Thanks for your note. My assumption, I think, is reasonable: One doesn't simply zoom in on two tiny, apparently unstained particles that happen to have male DNA on them. To strengthen the association, lab workers would be trying to locate as many such samples as possible.

 

[BBB167893]

Maybe so. That's why i think the gun is being jumped a bit.

 

[Chanler]

Maybe so. That's why i think the gun is being jumped a bit.

You could be right, SuperDave. But I think that guns have been going off for more than a decade: Many people here and elsewhere made up there minds long, long ago about this case and would strongly resist any new input.

 

[BBB167893]

You could be right, SuperDave. But I think that guns have been going off for more than a decade: Many people here and elsewhere made up there minds long, long ago about this case and would strongly resist any new input.

Well, I don't blame them. I mean, it was hard for me to break away once. That kind of experience stays with you. So, like I say: keep and open mind, but not so open that your brains fall out.

 

[Chanler]

Well, I don't blame them. I mean, it was hard for me to break away once. That kind of experience stays with you. So, like I say: keep and open mind, but not so open that your brains fall out.

Fair enough--and very funny. Thanks.

 

[BBB167893]

I think we'll get along just fine.

 

[JMO8778]

SLOW DOWN Dr Baden a frequent fox news expert says this does not clear anyone I thouht intantly this was a trick by Lacy and Now I really do believe that do notthing Lacy has given the Ramseys a parting gift!!

OMG How sick....just sick!!! sounds like John put her up to it..sounds like something new is going on in his life...getting married perhaps?
Is he still planning to run for office? he sure is trying to impress someone or someones!!

'unknown MAN?' there is no way to source the age of the person.could be from a child she had been playing with.what an obvious farce.
I also see no info on the no. of dna 'matches'..all is says is a vague 'match'.That doesn't mean it even hit on all of the incomplete profile of the last one.I would think Lacy would have included that info in her letter.Why be so vague?

 

[LinasK]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,379041,00.html

It sure looks like they are cleared to me. Many people won't accept it no matter what evidence shows up. They will try to defend what they have been saying for years. I never thought they did it, and felt so sorry for them losing their beloved daughter and being accused of it by so many people. I hope at least some have the integrity to apologize for their words. I think in any other case this would be welcome news for everyone, but some have had their opinions for so long and defended it so hard, it is difficult now.

Nope, it's that the majority of the evidence does NOT clear the Ramsey's. I always thought they were guilty and still do. It's not because I have defended my position for so long and hard. You show me solid evidence that clears the Ramseys and finds the killers and I'll gladly eat crow, but it doesn't exist because they did murder their own little girl, their flesh and blood and I have no pity for them, even the fact that Patsy died of Cancer. A criminal who dies of Cancer is still a criminal, she just didn't go to jail for it, or she would have died there.

 

[Ames]

Nope, it's that the majority of the evidence does NOT clear the Ramsey's. I always thought they were guilty and still do. It's not because I have defended my position for so long and hard. You show me solid evidence that clears the Ramseys and finds the killers and I'll gladly eat crow, but it doesn't exist because they did murder their own little girl, their flesh and blood and I have no pity for them, even the fact that Patsy died of Cancer. A criminal who dies of Cancer is still a criminal, she just didn't go to jail for it, or she would have died there.

Bravo! :clap: I second your opinion.

 

[awakening2lite]

I'm not sure what to think.

In a way it feels like Colorado wants to clear the case out and close it.

From I understood this dna test, the touch dna, has been in use for the past 5 years. So why now? Why have they only recently sent the materials to be tested?

O/T a little. What do we really know about this test? Is it possible I could bump into someone and later find myself at trial? How reliable is it?
I can't be the only who has heard LE say the DNA was too degraded after only a few months. How is this dna, more than a decade later still viable? If they didn't know the touch dna would be available years later and there was nothing on the clothes that would show dna (the sides of the night pajama bottoms) did they preserve it properly for testing?

There's still a lot of unanswered questions.

 

[BBB167893]

Nope, it's that the majority of the evidence does NOT clear the Ramsey's. I always thought they were guilty and still do. It's not because I have defended my position for so long and hard. You show me solid evidence that clears the Ramseys and finds the killers and I'll gladly eat crow, but it doesn't exist because they did murder their own little girl, their flesh and blood and I have no pity for them, even the fact that Patsy died of Cancer. A criminal who dies of Cancer is still a criminal, she just didn't go to jail for it, or she would have died there.

Well put, LinasK, as usual.

Lacy herself said that until someone is convicted, no one is cleared. She seems to have a problem with her memory.

 

[Credence]

I'm not sure what to think.

In a way it feels like Colorado wants to clear the case out and close it.

From I understood this dna test, the touch dna, has been in use for the past 5 years. So why now? Why have they only recently sent the materials to be tested?

O/T a little. What do we really know about this test? Is it possible I could bump into someone and later find myself at trial? How reliable is it?
I can't be the only who has heard LE say the DNA was too degraded after only a few months. How is this dna, more than a decade later still viable? If they didn't know the touch dna would be available years later and there was nothing on the clothes that would show dna (the sides of the night pajama bottoms) did they preserve it properly for testing?

There's still a lot of unanswered questions.

Forensic scientists from the Bode Technology Group, the lab that performed the DNA testing, scraped areas of JonBenet's long johns that investigators suggested would be where a person would touch if pulling down her pants.

Bode informed the district attorney's office in October that genetic material had been identified off the long johns.

That DNA matched the DNA earlier found on JonBenet's underpants.

Bode has performed "touch DNA" testing for about three years.

Linda Wheeler-Holloway, a former Fort Collins detective who became involved in the Tim Masters DNA-based exoneration case, said she and DNA forensic specialists Richard and Selma Eikelenboom of Holland presented "touch DNA" testing to the Boulder County district attorney's office in October 2006.

The district attorney's office never followed up, according to Wheeler-Holloway. Until Wednesday, she was unaware that Boulder County had pursued such a method.

"We were hoping the Boulder DA office would try it," Wheeler-Holloway said. "That is the best technology to use to solve that case."

http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_9833167?source=bb

 

[coloradokares]

Or at least a full press release.

One article I read says only parts of the longjohns were tested, not the whole thing.

Worse yet it was not the Long Johns themselves that were sent for testing. I knew I should have Bookmarked that article, but things were going so fast and furious. It was only a print taken off where one would normally grasp at the long johns to pull them up or down they were able to get a few skin cells those cells were compared No wonder they cannot find anyone to match it could have been literally anyone.

 

[BBB167893]

Same thing happened with Dennis Dechaine.

This new DNA can, and I think should, be used to cast a wider net. But it can't exclude anyone until it's matched to something. Bottom line.

 

[JMO8778]

From I understood this dna test, the touch dna, has been in use for the past 5 years. So why now? Why have they only recently sent the materials to be tested?

..Lacy's term ends soon.No doubt she and John collaborated on this latest scam to 'find' something more.