GUILTY WI - 6 dead, 61 injured after car rams into crowd at holiday parade, Waukesha, 21 Nov 2021 *ARREST*

[Deleted member 39678]

We sometimes forget to include the family members of these monsters in our prayers. This article talks about DB's mother who is blaming herself for posting his bail. My heart goes out to his family who is suffering the consequences of his actions.

The mother of the man accused of plowing his SUV into revelers at a suburban Milwaukee Christmas parade is wracked with regret for having bailed him out of jail just days earlier, his ex-girlfriend told The Post on Wednesday.
Dawn Woods wishes she hadn’t posted the $1,000 bond for her son, Darrell Brooks Jr., after he was accused of punching the mother of his child and intentionally striking her with his car on Nov. 2, according to the woman.
"She’s wrecked that people were killed as a result and she’s like, ‘I’m blaming myself, because had I not bailed him out, this wouldn’t have happened,'" said the ex, who asked to remain anonymous out of fear for her and her son’s safety.


Waukesha suspect’s mom regrets bailing him out before parade attack: ex-girlfriend

Did DB's mother know the details of his assault on his ex girlfriend and his extensive criminal history before posting his bail? If she was aware of those things it may have influenced her decision. JMO.

 

[steeltowngirl]

This is the reason I believe that there will be terrorism modifiers happening. There were prior charges of bomb threats and mass violence that LE were not aware of at the time of the attack - and there have also been other charges in a variety of states that were unearthed after the fact. Since this was such a massive crime scene with almost a square mile of evidence that needed to be logged and collected as well as the fact that they didn't catch DB for a few hours, I think that there was not ample time for LE to look over EVERY single one of this guy's criminal complaints before charging him.

TBH this is the reason why we need an interstate criminal charge database and universal warrant compact similar to CODIS. If this guy were to have been picked up on that paternity warrant here in WI and they saw he was a fugitive in NV, they could very easily have locked him up for the sex offense charge and he would not have been able to offend again and cause this horrific tragedy.

You are on to something. The Boston Bombers were federally charged based on the interstate requirements. In the Waukesha case, will they determine that the vehicle is a poor man’s weapon of mass destruction? Would an added terrorism charge substantially change the outcome for DB? I believe it might make it a death penalty eligible case.

The WMD part of the law is very specific on interstate requirements. A person is only guilty of violating this part of the law if he goes out of state or out of the country as part of the plot, or the mail is used, or the offense has an effect on interstate or foreign commerce.

How the Boston Marathon Bombing Is a Federal Crime | Geoffrey G. Nathan Law Offices

 

[doyoulovemepfg]

You are on to something. The Boston Bombers were federally charged based on the interstate requirements. In the Waukesha case, will they determine that the vehicle is a poor man’s weapon of mass destruction? Would an added terrorism charge substantially change the outcome for DB? I believe it might make it a death penalty eligible case.

The WMD part of the law is very specific on interstate requirements. A person is only guilty of violating this part of the law if he goes out of state or out of the country as part of the plot, or the mail is used, or the offense has an effect on interstate or foreign commerce.

How the Boston Marathon Bombing Is a Federal Crime | Geoffrey G. Nathan Law Offices

Yes. DP has been abolished in WI since 1853 so this would be a HUGE deal if the federal terrorism modifier was added on.

I think it could be possible that the WMD clause could be used - or potentially the going out of state as part of the plot depending on what his whereabouts were (he could have easily gone down to IL when out on bond) and when he left NV.

The interstate or foreign commerce clause is interesting - I believe that a few of the victims from the Catholic Community may be Mexican nationals (this was cited in a Reuters article awhile back but do not remember which one) so if that is the case we may have some solid ground to stand on there.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

After reading the probable cause section of the criminal compliant against DB I looked at the Google map of Waukesha.

DB entered E. Main St from White Rock and continued westbound for quite a distance. He had multiple opportunities to make a right turn off of E. and W. Main St before he got to Wisconsin where he was shot at by an officer after running over multiple people.

Sure seems like an intentional attack designed kill multiple pedestrians to me. Is this a terrorist attack? Maybe. JMO.

https://www.waukeshacounty.gov/globalassets/circuit-courts/2021cf001848-comp7347101.pdf

Google Maps

 

[al66pine]

Which Crime?

...The police chief stated there is no evidence that the attack was domestic terrorism....

.... disagree with this chief of police. Not sure what else to call it if the terms that describe this villainous choice cannot be used ? MOO.

@steeltowngirl @LietKynes. bbm sbm
Respectfully how about this, which is how the criminal complaint describes DB's acts. (Sorry, lost the link to complaint. Anyone have it handy? TiA.)

First-degree intentional homicide, causing death or another human being with intent to kill, a Class A felony.* Penalty: Life imprisonment.**

Imo this charge seems to fit DB's actions. Five counts originally, maybe six now. If DB was convicted of these crimes and sentenced to serve five or six life sentences, would a terrorism conviction be "better" justice? IDK. my2ct
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* Homicide "940.01 First-degree intentional homicide.
(1)  Offenses.
(a) ... whoever causes the death of another human being with intent to kill that person or another is guilty of a Class A felony."
Wisconsin Legislature: 940.01
** Penalty, Sentence. 939.50 Classification of felonies.
(3) Penalties for felonies are as follows:
(a) For a Class A felony, life imprisonment.
Wisconsin Legislature: 939.50

 

[doyoulovemepfg]

Which Crime?

@steeltowngirl @LietKynes. bbm sbm
Respectfully how about this, which is how the criminal complaint describes DB's acts. (Sorry, lost the link to complaint. Anyone have it handy? TiA.)

First-degree intentional homicide, causing death or another human being with intent to kill, a Class A felony.* Penalty: Life imprisonment.**

Imo this charge seems to fit DB's actions. Five counts originally, maybe six now. If DB was convicted of these crimes and sentenced to serve five or six life sentences, would a terrorism conviction be "better" justice? IDK. my2ct
_________________________________
* Homicide "940.01 First-degree intentional homicide.
(1)  Offenses.
(a) ... whoever causes the death of another human being with intent to kill that person or another is guilty of a Class A felony."
Wisconsin Legislature: 940.01
** Penalty, Sentence. 939.50 Classification of felonies.
(3) Penalties for felonies are as follows:
(a) For a Class A felony, life imprisonment.
Wisconsin Legislature: 939.50

https://www.waukeshacounty.gov/globalassets/circuit-courts/2021cf001848-comp7347101.pdf here ya go.

The only thing that would change with the federal terrorism modifier is the death penalty - which is something that many people believe that DB deserves.

 

[steeltowngirl]

Which Crime?

@steeltowngirl @LietKynes. bbm sbm
Respectfully how about this, which is how the criminal complaint describes DB's acts. (Sorry, lost the link to complaint. Anyone have it handy? TiA.)

First-degree intentional homicide, causing death or another human being with intent to kill, a Class A felony.* Penalty: Life imprisonment.**

Imo this charge seems to fit DB's actions. Five counts originally, maybe six now. If DB was convicted of these crimes and sentenced to serve five or six life sentences, would a terrorism conviction be "better" justice? IDK. my2ct
_________________________________
* Homicide "940.01 First-degree intentional homicide.
(1)  Offenses.
(a) ... whoever causes the death of another human being with intent to kill that person or another is guilty of a Class A felony."
Wisconsin Legislature: 940.01
** Penalty, Sentence. 939.50 Classification of felonies.
(3) Penalties for felonies are as follows:
(a) For a Class A felony, life imprisonment.
Wisconsin Legislature: 939.50

I would like to see the swiftest justice. A terrorism charge and potential death penalty case likely don’t expedite justice. I am not a lawyer, but I would guess the added charges might set precedent for future attacks. That would be “better” justice, but not swifter. I have no doubt DB will spend the rest of his life in prison. Ideally, I would like to see his defense attorney pat his back and hold his hand straight into a guilty plea. Then lock DB up, throw away the key, and feed him prison food for the rest of his miserable life.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Which Crime?

@steeltowngirl @LietKynes. bbm sbm
Respectfully how about this, which is how the criminal complaint describes DB's acts. (Sorry, lost the link to complaint. Anyone have it handy? TiA.)

First-degree intentional homicide, causing death or another human being with intent to kill, a Class A felony.* Penalty: Life imprisonment.**

Imo this charge seems to fit DB's actions. Five counts originally, maybe six now. If DB was convicted of these crimes and sentenced to serve five or six life sentences, would a terrorism conviction be "better" justice? IDK. my2ct
_________________________________
* Homicide "940.01 First-degree intentional homicide.
(1)  Offenses.
(a) ... whoever causes the death of another human being with intent to kill that person or another is guilty of a Class A felony."
Wisconsin Legislature: 940.01
** Penalty, Sentence. 939.50 Classification of felonies.
(3) Penalties for felonies are as follows:
(a) For a Class A felony, life imprisonment.
Wisconsin Legislature: 939.50

If there's evidence that DB acted as a terrorist in his criminal activities I don't see any problem calling him one whether he's charged with that or not.

I'm not quite there yet. While I find DB's SM troubling I want to know more about what his activities where leading up to his horrific and deadly drive through the parade. JMO.

 

[doyoulovemepfg]

If there's evidence that DB acted as a terrorist in his criminal activities I don't see any problem calling him one whether he's charged with that or not.

I'm not quite there yet. While I find DB's SM troubling I want to know more about what his activities where leading up to his horrific and deadly drive through the parade. JMO.

Immediately leading up to the parade he was at Frame Park, which is another family-friendly location on the riverwalk about a mile from the parade, where he stabbed his ex girlfriend/the mother of his child - who he had a no contact order out for. Something happened in between him leaving the riverwalk and going onto the parade route that made him go absolutely bonkers, and we may never know exactly what that is.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Immediately leading up to the parade he was at Frame Park, which is another family-friendly location on the riverwalk about a mile from the parade, where he stabbed his ex girlfriend/the mother of his child - who he had a no contact order out for. Something happened in between him leaving the riverwalk and going onto the parade route that made him go absolutely bonkers, and we may never know exactly what that is.

I haven't read about that in MSM which is what we go by here on WS. Link it and I'll take a look at it.

 

[Tiff23fr]

Mod Note:

The criminal compliant has been added to the first post of the thread for easy reference.

Best,
Tiff

 

[doyoulovemepfg]

I haven't read about that in MSM which is what we go by here on WS. Link it and I'll take a look at it.

Video captures Waukesha parade suspect's arrest and actions

This article mentions the call out to Frame, which is the domestic incident that many are referencing in other articles.

 

[steeltowngirl]

Well we knew this was coming. Glad the site had the common sense to take it down. (Link breaks due to content in title.)

GoFundMe has removed a fundraiser for Darrell Brooks Jr., who has been charged with five counts of first-degree intentional homicide after Sunday's Christmas parade massacre in Waukesha.

A GoFundMe was created for Brooks in an effort to raise $5 million, the bail amount Waukesha Court Commissioner Kevin M. Costello set for Brooks.

Brooks allegedly drove through a Christmas parade in Waukesha, Wisconsin, killing at least six people and injuring dozens.

A spokesperson for GoFundMe confirmed to FOX Business that the fundraiser was removed from the platform because it violated the GoFundMe Terms of Service.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/********-pulls-down-fundraiser-for-waukesha-suspect

 

[dotr]

Husband of Waukesha parade victim learned of her cancer diagnosis after she died: "Maybe God took her so she didn't have to suffer"
''Days after the deadly Waukesha parade crash, the husband of one of the women killed learned from a medical examiner that she had previously undiagnosed uterine cancer.

"I was happy to hear that I could at least give my children the thought that maybe a lot of suffering was avoided," John Kulich told "CBS Mornings" lead national correspondent David Begnaud. "At least give my children the thought that, well, maybe God took her so she didn't have to suffer. And if I could just leave them with that."

His wife, Jane, was one of the six people killed when 39-year-old Darrell Brooks plowed his SUV into the crowd on Sunday. She was 52 years old.''

 

[al66pine]

... Daily Mail Online. Darrell Brooks was busted in March 2007 for calling in a bomb threat to the $43-per-night Nugget Casino Resort in Sparks, Nevada...He was put on probation after being convicted of conspiring to disturb the peace...
His rap sheet also includes ....

@Ched sbm for focus Thx for your post, link* & quote. Interesting.

A bomb threat sounds scary. NV statute classifies Bomb Threat offense as Class B felony, w 1 to 6 yr sentence & fine up to $5000.
Yet after conviction of conspiring to disturb the peace, DB was put on (6mo.?) probation in 2007.

DB's bomb threat against NV casino in 2007 & his Wausheka actions are a bit remote in time & place.
Have there been other arrests or convictions on crimes of a similar nature since then, but before this? I wonder.
Wherever he does, he leaves a wake of tragedy. my2ct.
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* Darrell Brooks was once convicted for threatening to bomb a Nevada casino | Daily Mail Online, dated Nov. 24.
** Nevada statute. "NRS 202.840  Bomb threats prohibited; penalties...."
^ NRS: CHAPTER 202 - CRIMES AGAINST PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY
*** See doc. images at Daily Mail link above. Slide show, #3 & 4 of 17).*

 

[dotr]

rbbm.
Waukesha, Wisconsin parade crash: Legal experts explain charges | abc10.com
''But even if Brooks was under the influence of drugs or alcohol at the time — and police have not said he was — that could not be used as a defense in Wisconsin, experts said.

Tom Grieve, a Brookfield defense attorney and former Waukesha County prosecutor, said one possible defense would be that Brooks was suffering from a mental disease or defect. A jury would have to decide if he was guilty of the charges and then whether he was mentally ill. Such a finding would likely land him in a mental institution rather than prison.

Opper could have charged Brooks with first-degree reckless homicide, which would have been a “slam dunk” conviction that, given Brooks' age, would have been an effective life sentence, Bucher said. But extensive video and other evidence also support the more serious charge, he and other experts said.

“The fact he didn’t step on the brakes: That was intentional. The fact that his foot was on the gas: That was intentional. He could have stopped … He’s the only person who could put his foot on the brake pedal and he didn’t,” Grieve said.''

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Video captures Waukesha parade suspect's arrest and actions

This article mentions the call out to Frame, which is the domestic incident that many are referencing in other articles.

Officers originally were responding to the city's Frame Park in connection with the reported, domestic incident involving Brooks but were diverted to the parade.

I don't see anything here about DB stabbing his ex girlfriend at Frame Park. Let's say that is what happened.

Does that mean DB didn't premeditate an attack on pedestrians in the parade? Maybe it was a precursor event.

Video captures Waukesha parade suspect's arrest and actions

 

[doyoulovemepfg]

Just noticed something that could possibly derail DB getting federal terrorism charges/DP: the Milwaukee county cases had him declared indigent.

Any legal experts here that could tell us whether or not someone declared indigent would be eligible for DP or if that charge/other things he was already charged with are now deemed unethical?

 

[doyoulovemepfg]

I don't see anything here about DB stabbing his ex girlfriend at Frame Park. Let's say that is what happened.

Does that mean DB didn't premeditate an attack on pedestrians in the parade? Maybe it was a precursor event.

Video captures Waukesha parade suspect's arrest and actions

There were multiple posts referencing a stabbing early on in the thread and the nature of the attack was mentioned on the scanner as well.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

There were multiple posts referencing a stabbing early on in the thread and the nature of the attack was mentioned on the scanner as well.

I can't find it on MSM. Perhaps it was a mistake. If you can help and find a link that would be great.

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