Found Alive WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot, 15 Oct 2018 *Arrest* #36

[Bravo]

I think the one fact we do know that shocked me and it takes much to shock me is how he went all out Rambo entering the house.

 

[Irmese]

Talking about the Smart case.

 

[Lillymac]

While some posters are pretty much gloating, we might do well to remember the recent landmark decision in the Martha Moxley/ Michael Skakel assault and murder trial, conviction, and now absolute freedom for Skakel because his new attorneys proved the venerable Mickey Sherman " failed to call ONE witness who could verify he was elsewhere".

I recall gloating about Michael Skakel's very fair conviction for years.. and if Dominick Dunne was still alive, he likely would still be mentioning the case as well. For so many of us of that age group, ( Martha's, not D. Dunne's) it was a huge thing that a Kennedy cousin finally got his just desserts. And now, pffft. He's out and Martha will never have true justice in the courts.

IF the defendant in the Closs cases has wealthy parents, justice is not always true justice.
Are the Pattersons considered to be extremely wealthy in WI or the USA in total?

The sheriff said yesterday they had not even contacted LE about their son. And they were quick to hit the delete button on all SM.

 

[BlinkOfAnI]

I think the one fact we do know that shocked me and it takes much to shock me is how he went all out Rambo entering the house.

I've been thinking that as well. I can't just generalize and chalk it up to being crazy. Was something building in him and he exploded?

 

[K9Enzo]

There was speculation that he may have been in the military.

If true, maybe he had a medical discharge, injured in basic. He would have received money. Probably to a young adult it was considered a lot of money.

Also, maybe he was maxing our credit cards. They do target young people with credit card offers.

 

[Oakland CA]

48HRS:

Spending some time on previous abduction cases...Smart/Dugard/Hornbeck

 

[Karinna]

I’ve been crying for the past 27 minutes watching 48 hours. Im so happy Jayme is home. I’ve been following this since day one and wow it’s just so overwhelming. She has a very long road ahead of her but she has such a wonderful support system. I have no doubt she will come through this eventually one day. She’s such a strong brave 13 year old. I’m also so happy for all of us who have been here for months. It’s so rare we get such great news like this. Jayme did it. She survived. She escaped. She’s alive. She’s safe. We love you Jayme.

Agree, and i'm sure Jayme will find strengths within that she didn't know she had over the course of her journey of healing, and will possibly one day be an advocate for others that have gone through similar horrible circumstances. May wonderful things come her way in the future.

 

[Irmese]

JP Getty III, Patty Hearst, JC Duggard had a message for J. Sean Hornbeck.

 

[The Dude]

This world has way too many freaks in it.

 

[Irmese]

ES said there's no going back to who you were before.

 

[Quill]

I'm not so sure frightened is the right word. A retired cop, a teacher, and a child protection social worker? These folks were in full protection mode! See this great article that was recently posted here:

Rescuers, law enforcement recount finding Closs alive

And this quote:

She followed her dog’s urge to head for a walk before sundown.

“I owe it all to him,” she said. “He made me go for a walk.”

See, I told you guys that HenryStandingBear is a hero, too!

Mrs. Nutter is clearly a Longmire fan!

 

[Bravo]

I've been thinking that as well. I can't just generalize and chalk it up to being crazy. Was something building in him and he exploded?

I dunno. I said from the beginning Jayme was the target. Given that she was the only one to leave alive. Was he so obsessed he felt her parents had to die? Not typical but has happened. I'm so happy she was found and thankful he didn't find her after she escaped. I think it would be a very different outcome.

 

[Rubiconbob]

I’m still unnerved about how he went about obtaining her. So many other ways besides a home invasion with a shotgun. That just makes me think that he truly was looking for some type of long-term relationship with her. That also leads me to believe he had been creeping on her & made this decision for quite some time. How he came across her path will be interesting to say the least.

There are other ways, but most risk daylight / cell phone and others awake.

He actually pulled it off... he kills her at any point 87 days after and buries her with guns he wouldn’t be caught....

Like posters have already said, I don’t think
He thought things through or realized he effed up and didn’t know what to do....


Maybe this is simply his typical pattern..
Tell everyone your going into marines, go to recruitment center and bail at last second..

Apply at jenni o , tell everyone you got new job and bail 24 hrs in..

Map out murder kidnap, then bail in whatever next step was on the list..

 

[Lillymac]

Nothing new to us, yet.

They showed the red car, but didn't say if it was the one LE was looking for.

 

[Bravo]

ES said there's no going back to who you were before.

Absolutely. You work toward a new normal.

 

[stephlovescheese]

48 hours is doing a nice job of summarizing Jayme’s case and other notable cases as previously mentioned. By nice job it doesn’t seem overly dramatic and is really sensitive to the victims. Hope that makes sense.

 

[Pharmasgirl]

48HRS:

Spending some time on previous abduction cases...Smart/Dugard/Hornbeck

And those were all happy endings; lest we not forget the others

 

[BlinkOfAnI]

Million dollar question...odd there’s nothing on almost all family members....

I would buy growing pot and selling from a secluded house...breaking bad style..

I don’t buy doing nothing for three years... price is right is only good if your skipping school or work...

Was JP adopted?? His face looks round.. other family members don’t loook that similar even factoring weight... his sister is taller than him... that’s possible but not Likely...were they all adopted/foster children...I’m asking..

That family had something go haywire a decade ago.....5 people and only one with lot of info is pot smoking older brother.. strange

Can't answer your questions but I did find it odd his name didn't come up with the other family names on the people search sites.

 

[Oakland CA]

And those were all happy endings; lest we not forget the others

To their credit, each time they go to and come back from break, they show sets of three missing children with names/photos/date missing.

 

[Karinna]

48 hours is doing a nice job of summarizing Jayme’s case and other notable cases as previously mentioned. By nice job it doesn’t seem overly dramatic and is really sensitive to the victims. Hope that makes sense.

Yes it does, have watched other episodes of 48 hours previously too on t.v.