AMBER ALERT WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot, 15 Oct 2018 *endangered* #17

[JohnTate90210]

I never intended "In Touch" to be taken as absolutely correct. I was just saving everybody the trouble of buying it to see what it said.

As for not trusting MSM, I think it's ridiculous and comical. It's like having 100 people witness something. If 98 say one thing and two say another, which is most likely correct? You can bet it's usually the 98 no matter how much you might not like what they say.

 

[Jethro4WS]

Yeah, I'm not buying that either. Seems to me they said they had an FBI source in the Mollie Tibbets case, too.

Basically, per Tricia, people can either believe what Radar Online publishes or not and it is considered a source that can be used here. I don't put any stock in what they publish but others might.

My main concern was that people might see that another media source was publishing things coming from an "FBI Insider" and think that if more than one source was publishing it there may actually be something to it when in reality it was nothing more of a rehash published in another one of the parent company's publications.

 

[Jethro4WS]

This is a different one-on-one from the Sheriff.
Latest in Barron County: Watch full interview with Sheriff Fitzgerald, why alleged robber was cleared and more

 

[kkdj]

No but that's another one. I think this was a single mother who had taken her children on a trip to New York, she was a baker or something. She and her children had recently moved also. Maybe the grandma or aunt lived upstairs from them?

Ugh. I'm not finding the case I'm referring to. Anyway, there are several of them, HA being one. That's what I see here...someone wanting Jayme, parents in the way, solution to perp is murder and grab her.

 

[Jim_M]

I don't think LE knows she is alive, if that's who you were referring to. They are hoping, but so far they do not have any promising leads that we have heard about. They are most likely fearing the same thing we are, that the chances of her being found alive are very low at this point. Jmo

Sadly, you state the opinion you, and we, are feeling. Most of us anyway.

I recall Elizabeth Smart. The three (3) young girls held prisoner for a decade, in Chicago. Jaycee Dugard, and her two precious daughters. I think of our hope for wondrous outcomes. We try not to allow those statistics (we all have seen) to darken our thought processes. That reality is painful.

IMHO we know that evil visited this family. Nothing is currently known, about the fate of a little girl. Just turned thirteen (13).

That tears me up.

We really need our LE to check under every stone. Pull out all the stops. Double check any nagging thoughts. I have faith that they can solve this!

 

[MassGuy]

Sadly, you state the opinion you, and we, are feeling. Most of us anyway.

I recall Elizabeth Smart. The three (3) young girls held prisoner for a decade, in Chicago. Jaycee Dugard, and her two precious daughters. I think of our hope for wondrous outcomes. We try not to allow those statistics (we all have seen) to darken our thought processes. That reality is painful.

IMHO we know that evil visited this family. Nothing is currently known, about the fate of a little girl. Just turned thirteen (13).

That tears me up.

We really need our LE to check under every stone. Pull out all the stops. Double check any nagging thoughts. I have faith that they can solve this!

I have full confidence that they are going about this the right way. Unfortunately, it may not be up to them, especially if this was a random crime.

Sometimes there just isn’t a trail to follow to a suspect. Time will tell.

Statistics give us a good idea in regards to likely outcomes, but you’re right, they aren’t always right.

That’s really the only hope here.

 

[Quill]

I think this is a male, and there is unlikely to be a female involved. I’m playing the odds here.

The short answer to your question about DNA sites like Ancestry is no.

What Ancestry allows you to do though, is download your DNA results, which can then be uploaded to other databases that have different analytical tools.

The site used to catch Golden State is called GED match. I actually have my DNA on there.

As the site is a public database, LE doesn’t need a court order to also upload DNA there. Of course, they upload the DNA of an offender instead of their own.

They do this in order to look for familial matches which are then traced by a geneologist.

Well said, @MassGuy This is a special area of interest for me.

 

[charminglane]

Ugh. I'm not finding the case I'm referring to. Anyway, there are several of them, HA being one. That's what I see here...someone wanting Jayme, parents in the way, solution to perp is murder and grab her.

Celina Cass in NH?

 

[WiseOwl]

This is a different one-on-one from the Sheriff.
Latest in Barron County: Watch full interview with Sheriff Fitzgerald, why alleged robber was cleared and more

Thanks for posting this. It does seem as if LE are relying on a lot of tips in this case. I really like the Sheriff though, he's a top bloke.

 

[Quill]

True on all counts. A good software program could cut the time but not a financially feasible investment unless federal law changes . But that's another topic. Thanks for the info!

The DNA matches that have been found using the large genealogy databases are found through using DNA detectives and the work is very time consuming. I so wish it were a matter of a software program but I am afraid it is much more complex than that. It requires an expert in DNA as well as genealogical patterns. There have been some really interesting podcasts and tv docs about it.

 

[kkdj]

Celina Cass in NH?

No. The mother and brother and friend (?) were murdered by the mother's male friend so he could take her teenage daughter. They were discovered several states away in front of a (grocery?) store.

 

[BlinkOfAnI]

The DNA matches that have been found using the large genealogy databases are found through using DNA detectives and the work is very time consuming. I so wish it were a matter of a software program but I am afraid it is much more complex than that. It requires an expert in DNA as well as genealogical patterns. There have been some really interesting podcasts and tv docs about it.

Yes, TY. I should have been more specific. Trying to juggle to many things today so my posts have been way off. By software I meant a specifically written program that combined all necessary factors. The cost would be tremendous so at this point it wouldn't happen without laws changing at a federal level and federal backing. But I have no doubt it could be done.

 

[Mdawg008]

The more I follow cases like this the more I wish they began taking DNA samples at birth. There are so many crimes that go unsolved for years until there is finally a DNA match, this would certainly deter future crimes and also solve crimes a lot faster. Of course people could argue this violates privacy but I think the good far outweighs the bad from doing this.

 

[Nerissa]

RE: DNA samples from birth: on one hand agree.....then again our desire for whatever we perceive to be for the greater good, or our perceived safety is always up against our freedoms and privacy....delicate balance, that

 

[pinkfly]

We have so little actual fact to go on and unless this case goes to trial we may never hear the answers to all of our questions. I am still hopeful for that one big break they need to move forward. The odds of Jayme being alive seem less and less with each new day. Someone somewhere knows something even if they don't realize it.

 

[doublestop]

No. The mother and brother and friend (?) were murdered by the mother's male friend so he could take her teenage daughter. They were discovered several states away in front of a (grocery?) store.

This one? Bodies of missing Ohio trio found in hollow tree

 

[Stunned]

Wouldn’t he go in through the garage or to the back door? Who uses the front door?

My kids always came through the laundry room door, even as adults. That way they could shop the refrigerator and freezer.

 

[carbuff]

Why would an FBI source talk to a mag and not mainstream media? Even if this true that FBI source needs needs to be disciplined, or canned. They could be jeopardizing the whole case.

My experience leads me to warn against assuming an LE source or FBI source is actually involved in the case.

Way back when we had a serial killer operating in our area, there were several reports attributed to "a police source close to the investigation." The source turned out to be the retired officer they had brought back to direct traffic on the street that went past the area where the bodies were being recovered. He wasn't even close enough to the scene to see it from where he was working.

Yeah the person needs to be fired. But it's highly unlikely that they're an agent or investigator. More likely the person answering the telephone.

 

[kkdj]

This one? Bodies of missing Ohio trio found in hollow tree

nope. Thanks for trying to find it.

 

[MyBelle]

My kids always came through the laundry room door, even as adults. That way they could shop the refrigerator and freezer.

The Closs home had an attached garage. I think most folks do prefer attached-garage entries because they have remote openers for garage doors. It's also the door usually closest to vehicles. We never enter our front door because we keep it dead-bolted when we're not here and don't want the hassle of using a key. JMO