AMBER ALERT WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot to death, 15 Oct 2018 *endangered* #3

[Jethro4WS]

Google Maps

I don't see train tracks, but I see the Red Cedar River and a few creeks...does anyone know if the home was east of SR 53?

Google Maps

Railroad tracks are right behind the woods behind the house. I attached an image with an arrow pointing at the tracks.

 

[nwmouse]

I believe in holding on to hope until there is proven to be no hope.
But I still have a really bad feeling about this.
Of course we all do, Jayme has already been gone for too long.
I'm putting my faith in the FBI and other experts. IMO they're her best hope.
Chi

Me too. And the fact that the alleged men who took her also murdered her parents in cold blood is sinister.

 

[fraudqueen]

Wouldn't it be awesome during the Town Hall meeting if they asked the residents to submit to a voluntary DNA swab? Of course they won't, but I can dream can't I?

 

[Buddha_with_mace]

I think maybe hoping no media forces the perp to show up in person. They must think he’s following the case very closely

Absolutely agree!

 

[MassGuy]

Wouldn't it be awesome during the Town Hall meeting if they asked the residents to submit to a voluntary DNA swab? Of course they won't, but I can dream can't I?

We don’t even know they have DNA to compare it to at this point. Unfortunately, they very well might not, atleast not yet.

 

[nwmouse]

The sheriff called a meeting Wednesday evening with Barron County residents, but he barred reporters from attending, saying he wants to have a private dialogue with the people who elected him.

Bill Lueders, president of the Wisconsin Freedom of Information Council, called the decision to bar the media "offensive."

"The media are uniquely able to help, in terms of getting out information and encouraging people to share tips," Lueders said. "Does he want to find this girl, or does he just want to make a public display of his dislike for the press?"
Investigators have '100 percent expectation' that missing Wisconsin girl Jayme Closs is still alive

It makes little sense to me in this situation. LE need ALL the help they can get to find JC.

 

[chihuahua]

According to that link, LE do believe Jayme was at home when her parents were murdered.
One thing that I guess is good is that they didn't find any or enough of her blood at the scene to presume that she was deceased.
I hated typing that. But it is what it is.
Barron parents died from gunshots, missing daughter believed to have been there, sheriff says
Chi

 

[Saribella]

We don’t even know they have DNA to compare it to at this point. Unfortunately, they very well might not, atleast yet.

Why I think LEO is playing with a heck of a poker face right now.

 

[Slowmotion]

Wouldn't it be awesome during the Town Hall meeting if they asked the residents to submit to a voluntary DNA swab? Of course they won't, but I can dream can't I?

if they did something like this what would happen to the people who refused?

 

[crhedBngr]

Yes, I think they will be checking driver's licenses, or some other type of ID, before letting folks into the meeting tonight. I do feel, however, that there will be some info. leaked to the public. People talk. Some people love the limelight and attention. We shall see.

 

[MassGuy]

Why I think LEO is playing with a heck of a poker face right now.

It’s either a great poker face, or they are playing their cards face up, and telling us that they really do have nothing.

 

[Saribella]

It’s either a great poker face, or they are playing their cards face up, and telling us that they really do have nothing.

I say that because if they ID'd the perp, he or she probably will panic and then we'd be even more screwed trying to figure where she is.

 

[SharonNeedles]

In my amateur opinion, the town hall meeting is a brilliant move. Pure genius. And those of you who know what happens during victim searches and memorial services know why.

Brilliant.

And really, unless the perp is a third grader they know this too...

 

[MassGuy]

if they did something like this what would happen to the people who refused?

They might look at them a little harder, but I don’t think it’s going to happen at this point anyways.

In general, most people willingly comply, but lots of innocent people also refuse to provide DNA samples.

 

[PommyMommy]

Could someone good with maps help me out here?

I just read that about 1500 feet from their home through the woods, that there is a tower with a gravel road that goes between two cornfields and comes out at US 8. Could this the way that the perp got her out of there, maybe at gun point, as they might have had a car or truck parked on that gravel road before going to the Closs home? Or I am just reaching here?

What direction is the tower from the home? I'm not seeing it.
MOO

 

[zencompass]

Good to see you here, @MassGuy

 

[MassGuy]

I say that because if they ID'd the perp, he or she probably will panic and then we'd be even more screwed trying to figure where she is.

At this point, if they did know who he was, they’d almost certainly release the name and vehicle information.

History tells us that this is the correct play in situations like this. I think they genuinely don’t have an answer.

 

[nwmouse]

if they did something like this what would happen to the people who refused?

I don't think they can do anything.
AFAIK, LE cannot force someone to submit to DNA unless there is a warrant or the cops go looking for DNA evidence on discarded cigs and paper cups.
MOO

 

[Seattle1]

Missing Wisconsin girl's parents died from gunshots, Jayme Closs may have been there, sheriff says

Officials determined that James and Denise Closs died from gunshot wounds early Monday and ruled their deaths as homicides, Barron County Sheriff Chris Fitzgerald said at an afternoon news conference. Further details about the autopsies were not available, and the murder weapon has not been found.

Fitzgerald on Wednesday said that information from the phone call and from inside the home led investigators to conclude that Jayme Closs was home at the time her parents were killed.

 

[ChinaCat]

Of course it could have been for anything-new car, home improvement...I do wonder what the $13,000 equity loan was taken for last year. Their home value is under $100,000, so that’s a pretty decent amount to take vs home value. I don’t think they had any other real estate like a cabin, right? Did they buy something valuable that someone else may have wanted?

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They had their home repainted recently, perhaps they paid for that, roofing, etc.

 

[CARIIS]

Google Maps

Railroad tracks are right behind the woods behind the house. I attached an image with an arrow pointing at the tracks.

kinda feels like we are basically operating under notion that the time needed to get away would be longer than it might be

if they both were fleeing together willingly it really might only be seconds to get out of there