AMBER ALERT WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot to death, 15 Oct 2018 *endangered* #4

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  • #241
I don't know that anyone came to their door and the storm door was intact.
The father was found dead in the doorway. I think he opened the door and was shot.
 
  • #242
I looked and gave up. What was the date?
We saw yesterday that they had house painting done. JC was featured in a photo on the company's FB page. Who took that picture? One of the workers who was charmed enough by her to take it and post it? Ever since the Smart case, I worry about home maintenance workers around the kids. It would fit with the killer being familiar with the house and the area but also being generally unknown to the family.

Also, I think JC is holding a small dog in the picture. Where was the dog while all of this was going on? JMO.


WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot to death, 15 Oct 2018 *endangered* #3

I wouldn't even go that route. That is a family owned business with 3 teenage/20 something daughters who help paint. If it was one of the traveling companies that come around after hail storms then I would question it. But not these people.
 
  • #243
I wonder if they made any stops after the family gathering.
 
  • #244
Being that her photo on the painters' website was more than two years ago, I think it's far-fetched to think that is an avenue to pursue. If it was more recent, I might think otherwise.
 
  • #245
The father was found dead in the doorway. I think he opened the door and was shot.
or he was chasing whoever had Jayme.... they don't say where he was, how he was facing, just that the door was open when they arrived.
 
  • #246
I wonder if they made any stops after the family gathering.
me too - they haven't given any timeline other than to say the girls were at a Sunday party and Dad was at work. sigh.
 
  • #247
me too - they haven't given any timeline other than to say the girls were at a Sunday party and Dad was at work. sigh.

Yeah it would be hard for them to know if they made any stops because they are dead.

Do we know for sure if the parents’ cellphones were left at the house and not taken?
 
  • #248
Question -Why or who would arrive blasting at the front door- <modsnip - not victim friendly>
 
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  • #249
Yeah it would be hard for them to know if they made any stops because they are dead.

Do we know for a fact that the parents cellphones were left at the house?
Nothing direct from the sheriff other than the 911 call was made from a phone recovered at the scene.
 
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Also, the fact that no vehicle was heard tearing out of their residence means to me that Jayme is on foot. There were no tire track casings done. Not a single person has come forward stating ' I heard a vehicle leave the residence at high speed.' It is possible that someone in the immediate vicinity has an underground bunker of sorts. And it is this conclusion that leads me to scream for door to door searches. I'd be looking for someone unemployed, reclusive, and nervous.
 
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1243 13 1/2 Avenue, Barron, WI 54812 | MLS: 1521263 | Edina Realty
I think this house is nearby - it has a basement. Thanks for posting the address - not a lot of information on the regular house websites, zillow, realtor, trulia...
that house looks quite a bit larger. I honestly just wanted to see the floor plan to see which way rooms and doors were facing and what rooms were where. Their house looks to be a bit smaller like perhaps a 2 bd?
 
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Question -Why or who would arrive blasting at the front door- <modsnip - not victim friendly >

Has this ever been confirmed? I haven't seen anything about the door being shot other than speculation.
 
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  • #253
Meth addicts feel such power while using, falsely thinking they are smarter than others. It can lead to increased concentration at times unless seeking drugs to alleviate withdrawal. Then they become frantic, paranoid and all over the place with their thoughts. I agree with you re: clues. LE most likely have clues they’ve chosen not to disclose as to avoid jeapordization of Jamey’s welfare.
There was a girl who wrote a book who was held for years in a block building in a backyard. She talked about sexual meth binges that lasted for days. This idea had not occurred to me for Jayme until now.
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Has this ever been confirmed? I haven't seen anything about the door being shot other than speculation.
Sorry for assuming,I did not look at the doors they took in photos. But wasn't there report by family of door being "shot in" ? Thanks
 
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Asking the obvious, but must. Have all coaches, teachers, counselors, instructors, after-school activity or hobby leaders been cleared? I'm assuming this is the first place they looked...
 
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that house looks quite a bit larger. I honestly just wanted to see the floor plan to see which way rooms and doors were facing and what rooms were where. Their house looks to be a bit smaller like perhaps a 2 bd?
Yes it must be larger based on the property taxes - this house is Tax Amount: $2,467 and their home is around $1800 IIRC (from the link originally posted with their home address). I just wondered since they are both on an acre or so, did their home have a basement since this one did.
 
  • #257
The father was found dead in the doorway. I think he opened the door and was shot.
He also may have been attempting to flee. It is also possible that one of the victims dialed 911 themselves as they lay dying.
Extremely likely, I'd say. It would help to know if an unknown male voice was heard shouting on the recording.
I know the area is vast, but a grid search and door to door must take place, a perp would have already had time to dispose of her by now. Unacceptable to me.
 
  • #258
Has this ever been confirmed? I haven't seen anything about the door being shot other than speculation.

I'm just hearing that from media too, saying family said that. I don't think I heard LEO mention this - to which I'm reminded that if it's not from BC LEO, it's not relevant.
 
  • #259
Asking the obvious, but must. Have all coaches, teachers, counselors, instructors, after-school activity or hobby leaders been cleared? I'm assuming this is the first place they looked...
In the very beginning the Sheriff said he was working closely with the school district - not the school, or teachers - I found it odd he would name the District. the story is in the media links.
 
  • #260
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I have not seen any statement from LE about the time of death nor have I seen a statement saying they know Jayme was there when the call was made. The only statements I have seen say LE believe Jayme was there when her parents were shot from evidence at the scene and in part from the 911 call. Evidence at the scene could be her footprint in blood . A parent near death could of been able to reach a phone and call 911. the noise in the background could be that same parent collapsing and with their last breaths be able to say " he/she/they took Jayme " We also do not know if both parents were dead when LE arrived or if one was still clinging to life.
It would be safe to say that had there been an incident, it would have been reported. No reports anywhere saying there was a hospital admittance from LE, news reports, family. So it's safe to say they were both dead.
 
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