AMBER ALERT WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot to death, 15 Oct 2018 *endangered* #5

[klind55]

People keep using the timeline as to when the neighbors heard the shots as the beginning. What if those shots were the "final" shots and something had been going on for awhile. From what I have read it seems like it was more gruesome than fatal bullet wounds. Were they tortured before hand and that is why it looked like there was some kind of ties on the bloody kitchen chair that was brought out? Just thinking out loud....

 

[Slowmotion]

I can’t think of a single case where a family has been massacred to facilitate sex trafficking. That’s just not how it works.

not at all how it works, like i said in the Vian case, car jackers dont steal people and people stealers dont take cars. Sex traffickers are not breaking into a home killing two parents for a 13 year old girl. IMO thats not what they are about. They want the kid in and out quick, kids who ran away or come from broken homes.

 

[nwmouse]

I don't think the little girl did one single thing to cause her parents to be killed or herself likely in dire jeopardy. I hope no one thought I was in any way implying that. VICTIMS. Every one of them is a victim. God be with this missing girl!

Oh no, this was absolutely not directed at you, just a general observation that JC is a victim.
MOO.

 

[Slowmotion]

i also do not think this was drug related. I mean how much drugs are we talking a boatload of meth? I mean you can make meth yourself i dont think you would kill 2 people unless they owed ALOT of money or we are talking about pounds of the

 

[zecats]

There were pictures posted of the door being removed and taken away. It had Halloween cling-type decorations on it. It did not look bullet ridden or damaged to me. I assumed they were going to process it for DNA, fingerprints, or some other evidence. Just moo, of course.

I believe that was the storm door being carried off in that photo. The door in question of being damaged is the main front door.

 

[MassGuy]

i also do not think this was drug related. I mean how much drugs are we talking a boatload of meth? I mean you can make meth yourself i dont think you would kill 2 people unless they owed ALOT of money or we are talking about pounds of the ****

It’s possible that the perpetrator could be under the influence, but I agree, the motive wasn’t drug related.

 

[Oregonmama]

I can’t think of a single case where a family has been massacred to facilitate sex trafficking. That’s just not how it works.

Hard to get into a sp's mind and their thoughts but anything is possible if they want something badly enough. Many sex trafficking victims can be threatened with harm towards their family. There is a not concrete rule list on how a criminal acquires a sex trafficking victim

 

[zecats]

There were pictures posted of the door being removed and taken away. It had Halloween cling-type decorations on it. It did not look bullet ridden or damaged to me. I assumed they were going to process it for DNA, fingerprints, or some other evidence. Just moo, of course.

I believe that was the storm door being carried off in that photo. The door in question of being damaged is the main front door.

 

[MassGuy]

Hard to get into a sp's mind and their thoughts but anything is possible if they want something badly enough. Many sex trafficking victims can be threatened with harm towards their family. There is a not concrete rule list on how a criminal acquires a sex trafficking victim

When information is scarce, I find the best course is to look at what history tells us.

History tells us that sex trafficking is very far down the list here.

 

[IceIce9]

So afraid for Jayme. She's only 13. She's 5 feet tall, even. She weighs 100 lbs.
Tiny girl, very young teen. I pray she's still alive and will be found. Like the rest of WS, I don't know who did this or why, but I just hope they find her alive soon.

As things are known now, this case has a few elements of the murder of Dr. William Petit's family members a few years ago in Connecticut. Short synopsis so as not to make this case about another case: Two degenerate drug users with criminal records were looking for trouble and one happened to see the pretty blonde young teen daughter outside a grocery store with her mother. The two strangers burned down the house before the girls and their mother could be rescued. Dr. Petit barely survived.

My point is- Crazed druggies WILL follow someone they want to stalk and abduct, and WILL kill other family members they consider to be " collateral damage". If the target is too well protected, as was the case of the Petit girl, all of the family is in dire jeopardy, as we've seen with Jayme's parents. JMO.. but this is the scenario that keeps going through my mind.
1) More than one perp.
2)The missing girl was the focus.
3)They forced a home invasion.
4) One of the perps. is a stronger leader and a male. The other(s) are younger and there may be a female.

This is what I believe initially happened. I hope so much she can be like Shasta Groene, and stay alive until help can get to her. JMO, IMO, and not to be copied to any other website for any reason.

The Dr. William Petit family case stayed in my brain for a long time. Just gut wrenching.

Hoping Jayme will stay strong and hoping everyone will report anything that will help find her.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I have been looking at all of the photos of Jayme and she seems to be so naive.

She doesnt appear to want to look older than she is like many girls her age.

Now I am doubting she would chat online with anyone she didnt personally know.

I think she lived a life where her parents instilled in her to enjoy whatever age she is and not grow up too fast but enjoy being a young child for as long as possible.

Now I am even doubting she would have a boyfriend.

I know you cant judge everything by photos but I get the feeling she may have even been very shy around boys.

Just a feeling...nothing more.

 

[SeekingJana]

It’s possible that the perpetrator could be under the influence, but I agree, the motive wasn’t drug related.

I believe what you have said is likely correct. Perps. were/ are drug users under the influence. Has nothing to do with the victims at all.
If people would get off social media and read the case facts as released by trustworthy LE and the mainstream media, they'd not have such lurid things to work off of.

 

[Oregonmama]

When information is scarce, I find the best course is to look at what history tells us.

History tells us that sex trafficking is very far down the list here.

When there is no info then everything should be on the table.

 

[Deleted member 278]

I can’t think of a single case where a family has been massacred to facilitate sex trafficking. That’s just not how it works.

True but it's surely brought up in every single missing person case isn't it?

 

[SeekingJana]

I have been looking at all of the photos of Jayme and she seems to be so naive.

She doesnt appear to want to look older than she is like many gurls her age.

Now I am doubting she would chat online with anyone she didnt personally know.

I think she lived a life where her parents instilled in her to enjoy whatever age she is and not grow up too fast but enjoy being a young child for as long as possible.

Now I am even doubting she would have a boyfriend.

I know you cant judge everything by photos but I get the feeling she may have even been very shy around boys.

Just a feeling...nothing more.

Absolutely my impression, too, OceanBlueEyes. Thank you for saying this so eloquently, my friend.

 

[Deleted member 278]

At the :47 mark you can clearly see damage to the door jam, though.

Most likely due to LE removing it.

 

[MassGuy]

True but it's surely brought up in every single missing person case isn't it?

Haaa. It absolutely is. So is MS-13. People hear about these things on the news, and make a connection where there generally isn’t one.

 

[cybervampira]

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=2160972730787654

 

[nwmouse]

When information is scarce, I find the best course is to look at what history tells us.

History tells us that sex trafficking is very far down the list here.

Yep. I think its going to be an Occam's Razor case. And I do not think for one moment that international/national sex trafficking is involved. That seems rather absurd at this point, given the facts of the case as we've been told by LE.
MOO.

 

[Deleted member 278]

i also do not think this was drug related. I mean how much drugs are we talking a boatload of meth? I mean you can make meth yourself i dont think you would kill 2 people unless they owed ALOT of money or we are talking about pounds of the ****

Exactly but, again, it comes up every.single.time someone goes missing!