WI - Madison, school shooting at Abundant Life Christian School 16 Dec 2024

  • #61
I think maybe they should withhold the shooter’s name. Give them no public coverage. Maybe that would deter the next could-be shooter. Nothing in it for them, not even infamy.
Agreed.
I don't have a problem with that.
 
  • #62
Agreed.
I don't have a problem with that.
You can't sell ads if you can't get folks to click on the article! Publishing the shooter's identity will bring a lot of traffic to a website.
 
  • #63
Presser Notes:

3 People dead including shooter. Teenage student who attended school. Not releasing age or gender at this time.

A teacher was killed along with a teenage student.

6 others injured. 2 students critical. Injuries considered life threatening.

4 students with non life threatening injuries
 
  • #64
  • #65
Chief of Police Barnes giving a live update right now.
Three people, including the shooter (a teenage student) dead.
Teacher and another teenage student are the other two deceased.
They are not releasing the gender or age of the shooter at this time.
Two in critical condition - I missed the rest due to my grandpuppy barking.
Currently processing the scene, interviewing witnesses, and getting search warrants.

Interesting choice of words, IMO.
 
  • #66
Presser COP

Teacher and teenage student died.
Not releasing name of shooter
Several at other hospitals.
Don't know why, I investigators working on
School s now clear
Working on reunification
 
  • #67
Presser Notes:

3 People dead including shooter. Teenage student who attended school. Not releasing age or gender at this time.

A teacher was killed along with a teenage student.

6 others injured. 2 students critical. Injuries considered life threatening.

4 students with non life threatening injuries
Did the shooter kill himself?
 
  • #68
  • #69
Watching the presser. Unusual that they won’t say if the shooter is male or female. Maybe a gender issue that was troubling the perp??

I really cannot understand why the easy, concrete and tangible things are not done.

Metal detectors at the school doors with an LE officer or school resource officer supervising.

Parents locking up their guns in a foolproof safe.

The intangibles at the heart of these tragedies, the troubled people who turn to violence, are not always known in time. But some simple safety measures are worth it.

My school did not have metal detectors. The only time we went through the students’ backpacks was on Halloween so they didn’t bring eggs.
However, my eldest granddaughter’s high school did have metal detectors even though it was in a better neighborhood.

It doesn’t feel like a fortress. Kids get used to it, although they complain when it’s cold outside and the line is long.

IMO that is far the lesser of the evils.

ETA just now the police chief is saying he’d rather schools not have metal detectors. I get he doesn’t want an atmosphere like that, but which scenario is worse?
Imo
 
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  • #70
03:08 PM EST

At least 83 school shootings in the U.S. so far in 2024​

As of December 16, there have been at least 83 school shootings in the U.S. in 2024.

Of these incidents, 27 occurred on college campuses, while 56 took place at K-12 schools. The shootings have resulted in 38 deaths and at least 115 injuries.

 
  • #71
My heart goes out to the victims and their families.
 
  • #72
My heart goes out to the parents and families of students at this school. Especially the ones who showed up to retrieve their child and will be told they are no longer with us.
 
  • #73
I would encourage people to be mindful when it comes to getting information from social media. Many people have very large biases and will use events like this to further an agenda
 
  • #74

Family of suspected shooter is cooperating with police, police chief says
From CNN's Elise Hammond
The family of the student suspected of opening fire at a Madison, Wisconsin, school on Monday is cooperating with police, police chief Shon Barnes said.

Earlier in the news conference, Barnes said the suspected shooter was a student at Abundant Life Christian School, but declined to give any other identifying details.

The alleged shooter was found dead at the school, police said previously.
 
  • #75
CNN just reported that the shooter was FEMALE.
 
  • #76
  • #77
CNN just reported that the shooter was FEMALE.

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  • #78
My first thought was if she is female then it’s maybe more likely that the other student was her specific target. The teacher could have just got in between them. She didn’t have to be stopped by the police, suggesting she didn’t try to hurt as many people as possible. Just a thought. Total speculation.
 
  • #79
My first thought was if she is female then it’s maybe more likely that the other student was her specific target. The teacher could have just got in between them. She didn’t have to be stopped by the police, suggesting she didn’t try to hurt as many people as possible. Just a thought. Total speculation.
The fact that two others are critical makes me think her plan was a bit broader than a single specific target.

She could have also just been a bad shot, so who knows.
 
  • #80
The fact that two others are critical makes me think her plan was a bit broader than a single specific target.

She could have also just been a bad shot, so who knows.
I was thinking the same thing. I think the others were just lucky to not be hit fatally. Praying for those in critical condition still.
 

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