WV WV - Aliayah Lunsford, 3, Lewis Co., 24 Sep 2011 - #12

[stillwatersc]

I think this part is the most telling:

I think it's no accident that the phrase 'blood relative' was used, rather than simply 'relative'. Sure sounds like she thinks that someone in the family by marriage is responsible. Whether she means RL or someone else, of course, isn't clear.

I know that the vast majority of people who have been following this case think that LL did something to Aliayah, but I have never really seen anybody base that on anything other than a dislike for her personally and disapproval of the way she's conducted herself. For some, that might be enough to declare her a murderer, but not for me.

The thing that has me most curious is why LL thinks Aliayah's still alive. Is it because she just wants to think that as any mother would, or because she has a theory about what happened to her? I am thinking the latter, but time will tell.

I don't want to believe Lena is guilty but can't explain why she would get in the car and drive around for hours looking for a missing 3 year old and why the close neighbor who was outside all morning didn't see or hear any searching. If Lena's story was true, she & the other children should have been running up & down the street calling for Aliayah & the whole neighborhood would have been summoned immediately. The scenario Lena described is not logical.

 

[Kimbreeley]

Sweet Aliayah, it is so good to see your name in the news again!!! Still, and always, praying for you little angel! And, I, for one, am NOT the least bit impressed with Lena divorcing Ralph or issuing this petty little statement - 6 months AFTER your child has disappeared is WAY TO LATE to act like she gives a *****. MOO and all that jazz.....We love you Aliayah!!

 

[MarthaM]

I don't want to believe Lena is guilty but can't explain why she would get in the car and drive around for hours looking for a missing 3 year old and why the close neighbor who was outside all morning didn't see or hear any searching. If Lena's story was true, she & the other children should have been running up & down the street calling for Aliayah & the whole neighborhood would have been summoned immediately. The scenario Lena described is not logical.

I agree that Lena's behavior that morning isn't what people want or expect to see after someone has discovered that her child is missing. However, what I don't understand is how that so quickly became evidence that she murdered or did something else to Aliayah. To me, that isn't logical, either. Just because a parent makes tearful pleas for their child's return in the media, joins in searches, and attends vigils doesn't always mean they're innocent; in the same way, I can't just assume that a parent who doesn't do those things is automatically guilty of anything.

I don't know who did what to Aliayah. Maybe LL did something, maybe she didn't. Maybe RL did something, maybe he didn't.

 

[Kat]

http://www.wetzelchronicle.com/page...--girl-missing-6-months-.html?isap=1&nav=5059

March 24, 2012

 

[CJMAJORGIRL24]

Is Lena getting ready to throw Ralph under the bus?

Those are my thoughts, exactly! I believe her sentencing is VERY near and maybe it's time for a deal. Remember it is "rumored" that RL has two other missing/deceased relatives. I have a feeling LL is going to sing like a songbird to keep her tail out of jail. Remember she filed a lawsuit against the guards and the state of WV. The LAST place she wants to be is in FEDERAL prison!

 

[rainydaybaby]

I am glad to hear that the FBI is planning a press release next week. Hopefully there is movement in the case. I really think it is interesting that their statement includes that bit about the door knob. I wonder if it is that they are honestly trying to figure out what happened or if they just want to appear as though they are? Anxiously awaiting the FBI statement. . .

 

[Mjskit]

I think divorcing RL could be to get her kids back. DHHR can not force anyone to get a divorce but they most definitely can say the children can not have contact with people they feel is a danger. Therefore, it is possible that DHHR said just that and LL is doing what she has to do to even have the possibility of getting the kids back. IMO

 

[AmandaReckonwith]

I think divorcing RL could be to get her kids back. DHHR can not force anyone to get a divorce but they most definitely can say the children can not have contact with people they feel is a danger. Therefore, it is possible that DHHR said just that and LL is doing what she has to do to even have the possibility of getting the kids back. IMO

And thus her income.

 

[Mjskit]

The parents have 6 months from the first court date to complete the tasks required or risk termination of parental rights. An extension is sometimes given by the judge if the parent(s) are really trying. If the petition was filed against both LL and RL but one of them doesn't complete then they both lose. By filing for divorce LL shows there has been a major change and the court will separate the cases. LL on her own. RL on his own. Each only responsible for their own actions or lack of action.

LL has to have a place to live with enough bedrooms for the children. Boys and girls can not share a room except for babies. She would need at least a 4 bedroom home. I was just wondering who inherited Joann's home?

 

[Vickie Bowen]

The parents have 6 months from the first court date to complete the tasks required or risk termination of parental rights. An extension is sometimes given by the judge if the parent(s) are really trying. If the petition was filed against both LL and RL but one of them doesn't complete then they both lose. By filing for divorce LL shows there has been a major change and the court will separate the cases. LL on her own. RL on his own. Each only responsible for their own actions or lack of action.

LL has to have a place to live with enough bedrooms for the children. Boys and girls can not share a room except for babies. She would need at least a 4 bedroom home. I was just wondering who inherited Joann's home?

It is my understanding that Danny got the car, the truck and the camper. And that Danny, Wendy and Lena got the trailor. It is rumored that Wendy got married just a few days after Jo Ann's death to get away from them all and is living in another town. She told me the night Jo Ann died that she could not live there anymore, she did not say why, but I feel it was out of fear for her own safety. JMO I did hear Lena was trying to get Wendy to sign over her oart of the trailor to her.

 

[Mjskit]

The parents have 6 months from the first court date to complete the tasks required or risk termination of parental rights. An extension is sometimes given by the judge if the parent(s) are really trying. If the petition was filed against both LL and RL but one of them doesn't complete then they both lose. By filing for divorce LL shows there has been a major change and the court will separate the cases. LL on her own. RL on his own. Each only responsible for their own actions or lack of action.

LL has to have a place to live with enough bedrooms for the children. Boys and girls can not share a room except for babies. She would need at least a 4 bedroom home. I was just wondering who inherited Joann's home?

I forgot to add that separating the cases gives each of them an additional 6 months to complete. Plus after this additional 6 months LL can request an extension ( if she has made significant progress towards the goals established). An extension can be 3 or 6 months. This case could go on for another year.

 

[mahoolin]

I think divorcing RL could be to get her kids back. DHHR can not force anyone to get a divorce but they most definitely can say the children can not have contact with people they feel is a danger. Therefore, it is possible that DHHR said just that and LL is doing what she has to do to even have the possibility of getting the kids back. IMO

BBM

I mentioned that way back. I know of a mom who lost her children because she chose to stay with her husband. Really sad, but in that situation the children are much better off. But this wasn't in WV so I don't know how things work in that system.

 

[PlainJaneDoe]

http://www.wetzelchronicle.com/page...--girl-missing-6-months-.html?isap=1&nav=5059

March 24, 2012

She prays daily for her safe return?

:censored:

 

[No Stone Unturned]

http://www.wdtv.com/wdtv.cfm?func=v...y-Members-Hold-Vigil-for-Aliayah-Lunsford1755

Lena was not present at today's vigil.

The F.B.I. says they will be holding a press briefing sometime this upcoming week.

 

[Quilter226]

I do not believe the rumors that are floating around in many FB rooms. So many false accusations, lies and meaness. It doesn't help in the search for Aliayah.
There is one FB room especially made up of a bunch of women, most of which are not in WV . All they do is spread hatred, talk very vulgar, make judgements, and accuse. They claim to be wonderful mothers & grandmothers. After reading what they have written, I question that and am glad I don't know them. I actually question what their real motive is. It certainly isn't out of love. They and their hate, filthy language & negativity is not wanted and they need to leave Aliayah's family & searchers alone.

 

[Shelby2]

I do not believe the rumors that are floating around in many FB rooms. So many false accusations, lies and meaness. It doesn't help in the search for Aliayah.
There is one FB room especially made up of a bunch of women, most of which are not in WV . All they do is spread hatred, talk very vulgar, make judgements, and accuse. They claim to be wonderful mothers & grandmothers. After reading what they have written, I question that and am glad I don't know them. I actually question what their real motive is. It certainly isn't out of love. They and their hate, filthy language & negativity is not wanted and they need to leave Aliayah's family & searchers alone.

I agree, they are no better than topix!

 

[No Stone Unturned]

Charley Project link for Aliayah.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/l/lunsford_aliayah.html

Even if you are familiar with this case, I think it is always important to review this site. They boil it down to the facts that are most relevant surrounding the disappearance.

Thanks for reading.

 

[Donjeta]

Based on the configuration of the door, the doorway and the doorsteps, Woelfel said he and Lena Lunsford have concluded "there is no way the child could have simply wandered off from the home. No way."

"A child that age, that size, with the dexterity of a child that age," he said, "... it's all but physically impossible to have just been a simple walk-off.

"I'm not saying it's an impossibility," he added, "but we don't believe that happened."

If he's saying that there is no way it could have happened isn't it the same thing as saying it's an impossibility? :waitasec:

http://www.wetzelchronicle.com/page...--girl-missing-6-months-.html?isap=1&nav=5059

 

[tlcya]

http://www.wetzelchronicle.com/page...--girl-missing-6-months-.html?isap=1&nav=5059

IMO this

"Lena is convinced that no blood relative of Aliayah knows what has happened to her. Nor was she involved in any way with her disappearance," he told The Associated Press.

plus this

She has, however, recently filed for divorce from her husband, Ralph Keith Lunsford. She's been living with her mother for months under a judge's order . . .

plus this

Woelfel said he and Lena Lunsford have concluded "there is no way the child could have simply wandered off from the home. No way."

"A child that age, that size, with the dexterity of a child that age," he said, "... it's all but physically impossible to have just been a simple walk-off.

"I'm not saying it's an impossibility," he added, "but we don't believe that happened."

Equal THIS

Is Lena getting ready to throw Ralph under the bus?

 

[Quilter226]

If he's saying that there is no way it could have happened isn't it the same thing as saying it's an impossibility? :waitasec:

http://www.wetzelchronicle.com/page...--girl-missing-6-months-.html?isap=1&nav=5059

I thought the same thing when I read that statement. Real smart man, don't ya think. LOL!