WV WV - Aliayah Lunsford, 3, Lewis Co., 24 Sep 2011 - # 8

[CJMAJORGIRL24]

Any information should be reported to the W.Va. Fusion Center at online or by calling 304-558-4831. The center is staffed 24 hours a day, officials said.


A new missing poster, with a new photo of Aliayah is expected to be released next week.
http://www.wowktv.com/story/15953947/20000-reward-issued-in-aliayah-lunsford-case

 

[Sharedspirit]

Whoever told vickie that it was a good idea to do the Q&A is who I'm mad at. It was very bad advice. She should have talked to LE first! She should have asked them a few simple questions before she put herself out there on facebook. She at least would have had the facts and not have been answering with hearsay.

I believe she was being used to further someone elses need for attention. JMHO and I could be wrong, but that's just the feeling I'm getting right now.

 

[lynnb]

http://www.wdtv.com/index.php/home/...ord-press-conference-held-latest-developments

They also told us why they are being so tight lipped about the suspects in this investigation. "We have to collect evidence. We have to bring enough evidence to convict somebody of a crime beyond reasonable doubt" said Special Agent Jeff Killeen. "If we would divulge that kind of information prematurely, that may jeopardize a criminal case. I apologize that we cannot be more fourth coming with the facts that we have, but nonetheless we've made considerable progress thus far."

BUMP
I think LE knows exactly who to look at

 

[peeples]

IMO....this whole extended family inserted themselves into this investigation without giving it any thought.....looking for attention on facebook turned out to be wayyyy more than they bargained for.
sorry if that seems harsh....but it all started over a few "I'm related to Aliayah" posts.

Remember the Hailey Dunn family drama that played out on facebook, and probably still is??

:banghead::banghead::banghead:
I cannot handle a repeat of that!!

 

[Sharedspirit]

BUMP
I think LE knows exactly who to look at

I do too. I think they are just waiting for the twins to be born then we will see an arrest, whether they find Aliayah or not by the time LL has had the babies.

 

[cluciano63]

I'm sorry...but that made me chuckle....and I know you were serious...but...
I have said that for EVERY case I have ever followed. I feel your pain.

Baby Lisa's case is right up there, as far as the adults in her life behaving as though only their troubles and rights are of any importance.

 

[Westinlund]

http://www.facebook.com/groups/157086711052107/

Link is the Aliayah Law FB page, where there are several threads with open discussion about today's press conference, plus unedited video of the press conference. Part 1 is up and running, parts 2 and 3 are being uploaded as I type.

 

[lynnb]

http://www.facebook.com/groups/157086711052107/

Link is the Aliayah Law FB page, where there are several threads with open discussion about today's press conference, plus unedited video of the press conference. Part 1 is up and running, parts 2 and 3 are being uploaded as I type.

:woohoo:

 

[Westinlund]

http://www.facebook.com/groups/157086711052107/

Part 2 of the press conference is now up.

 

[Peazzzer]

it just makes me sick that people are playing games. Poor Aliayah.

 

[sktrsmw]

09/29/2011: Still No Sign of Missing 3-year-old Aliayah Lunsford - Associated Press - YouTube

No particular reason I'm posting this, just interesting to see Lena and Joann speaking on camera.

The moment I saw this video back in Sept., was the moment I KNEW that Lena was LYING. At the 16 second mark is a key to her being deceptive. Watch her eyes dart when she makes this statement. LE no doubt knew early on that she was lying.
There is no doubt in my mind that this woman knowingly gave Aliayah away.

 

[sktrsmw]

09/29/2011: Still No Sign of Missing 3-year-old Aliayah Lunsford - Associated Press - YouTube

No particular reason I'm posting this, just interesting to see Lena and Joann speaking on camera.

Basic deceit at the 16 second mark.

 

[sktrsmw]

I do too. I think they are just waiting for the twins to be born then we will see an arrest, whether they find Aliayah or not by the time LL has had the babies.

Absolutely! I have felt this all along! LE KNOWS that Lena did something with Aliayah, but they have to wait till her twins are born before they take action. If they were to have arrested her before the twins were born and something happened to them before birth, LE would be opening themselves up to maybe a huge legal suit.
The shoe is going to drop on this woman, the moment she leaves the hospital.

 

[Knox]

Honestly, I still wouldn't believe any of them as far as I could throw them.. they're all either very ill informed, very gullible, mentally challenged or VERY guilty. Her admitting she was "misled" doesn't cut it with me. This has opened a can of worms and a hole in the case big enough to drive a truck through!! Why would a mother LIE about not being able to share information about her daughter's disappearance. This entire family has lied from the beginning.. not listening to any of it anymore.
I just want justice for Aliayah...

I absolutely have no problem believing Lena lied to her family. Joann may also be lying to extended family in order to protect Lena or maybe she's in complete denial. Either way, as Aliayah's Grandmother her behavior blew it for me from the get-go. Not breathing or in the hospital would be the only excuses I would except for not speaking out for your Grand-Baby. A local on facebook said that Lena pulled a rental hoax on her and she ended up getting stiffed. Joann defended Lena to the local, even though it was proven Lena had lied. This is not verified info, but no family member jumped in to refute the landlord's story. IMO, it's true.

But as far as the great aunt goes, I was thinking about this on my way home. My sister does not live in the same city as I do, but we communicate regularly. Among the many things we discuss are our children. One of her daughters (my niece) had a few issues when she was younger. We would discuss those issues and truthfully, I held back some of my opinions. I did not voice what I really thought about her actions and that I felt she was being less than honest with my sister. I did that partly to keep the peace and also because I did not want to hurt my sister or stop her from being able to vent to someone who would not repeat. My other sister is a chatty-kathy, lol.

I guess what I am getting at; The great aunt surely knows Lena has "issues". But she is getting her info from her sister, who she appears to be very worried about. Is it naive on the aunt's part to believe her Joann? Perhaps. But I don't believe there was any malicious intent on her part.

I kind of doubt she feels the same today, as she did prior to the Q&A session. All of this has no doubt been an eye-opener for her.

 

[Westinlund]

http://www.facebook.com/groups/157086711052107/

Final clip of the press conference is now up. All three clips can be found at the above link.

 

[Knox]

Whoever told vickie that it was a good idea to do the Q&A is who I'm mad at. It was very bad advice. She should have talked to LE first! She should have asked them a few simple questions before she put herself out there on facebook. She at least would have had the facts and not have been answering with hearsay.

I believe she was being used to further someone elses need for attention. JMHO and I could be wrong, but that's just the feeling I'm getting right now.

Nail, meet head of hammer.

 

[Knox]

Remember the Hailey Dunn family drama that played out on facebook, and probably still is??

:banghead::banghead::banghead:
I cannot handle a repeat of that!!

Not to mention here at WS, remember her defender who came here?:innocent:

 

[CJMAJORGIRL24]

Received two interesting emails tonite. One from a member of the news media, one from my advisor -both said the same thing, freedom of the press and freedom of speech guarantees that LE and the FBI would not place a gag order on an open case. I was so wrapped up in freedom of speech, I forgot about freedom of the press..(sighs)

 

[MarthaM]

I've never believed that LE/FBI in this case or any other is going to wait to arrest a pregnant woman until she gives birth if they have enough on her to make their case stick. They're just not going to do that. And I'd have a really really low opinion of them if they did. But that's not how it works. If you've got a solid case, you arrest the woman. The only thing I believe right now (and which it appears LE has even stated) is that they are still working on building a case. It's similar to a lot of comments that were flying around online in the Celina Cass case; a lot of folks thought LE was just waiting around to arrest one of the family member until he got out of a medical facility. It didn't happen. No arrest. Same thing here... LE will make an arrest when they're ready to make an arrest, and the timing of that has nothing to do with a woman's due date.

As far as Facebook drama goes... it's probably clear that I don't have a high opinion of the role FB has come to play in these cases. If I were advising any family in this kind of situation, I'd tell them to make sure to be visible enough so that people keep talking about the case on FB (to keep the story front & center), but not to go there themselves. Kind of like encouraging them to do an interview with the local newspaper but not with the Enquirer.

Edited to add this about the 'gag order': I didn't believe there ever was a gag order on the media. I think they were told at the very beginning, when there were organized searches involving volunteers meeting at a central place, to keep their distance and not interfere or distract the organizers & searchers by trying to get interviews there. But a gag order? It never made sense. LE tells their own people not to talk to the press; they don't tell the press they can't talk to anybody. And any halfway decent journalist would know that and just keep doing their job. IMO, the local media in this case has not done well at all.

 

[SeaEclipse]

Received two interesting emails tonite. One from a member of the news media, one from my advisor -both said the same thing, freedom of the press and freedom of speech guarantees that LE and the FBI would not place a gag order on an open case. I was so wrapped up in freedom of speech, I forgot about freedom of the press..(sighs)

Judges can and do put gag orders on "open" cases, but in AL's disappearance the problem is that there is no "case." Theoretically, there could be a gag order on LL's welfare case (though I have no idea why there would be), but a judge can only place a gag order on parties and attorneys under their jurisdiction... and here no judge has "jurisdiction" over AL's "case." (As an aside, random family members could never be subject to a gag order for the same reason: they are not parties to a case.)

Similarly, a judge has no authority to stop the media from commenting on a particular case, so a judge-issued gag order in the US can never apply to the media writ large (contra "super-injunctions" in the UK). Statutes purporting to prevent the media from reporting on particular subjects are typically struck down as unconstitutional on 1st amendment grounds, but "freedom of the press" doesn't affect the ability of a judge to issue a gag order on court participants... it just means that if the press reports comments made in violation of a gag order, nothing can happen to the reporter directly (just the order-bound party).