WV WV - Aliayah Lunsford, 3, Lewis Co., 24 Sep 2011 - # 8

[Knox]

One more

Ralph's connection to Vadis. Is this the area he was born and raised in? Where his family lives?

 

[Sharedspirit]

Lena lived with JoAnn from time she got out of jail the last time ( about 18 months) with all the children
Ralph was assumed to be Living in Vadis, WV
About 4 months ago the got back together and moved to a house on Toms Run, lived there less than 1 month and moved to Dennison St. Weston,WV

As far as them being "social" only info I get is Ralph hung aroung with "low lifes and drunks." I have been told by Lena that Ralph will take off and go on drinking binges at Vadis for 2 or 3 days at a time leaving Lena and kids at home.

Where is Tom's Run? Is that the Vadis house? If not, has the Tom's Run area been searched?

 

[Vickie Bowen]

I have been thinking..(dangerous I know) ---does LL and RL get to see the kids? ---and if the state took the children-shouldn't they be Aliayah's voice or allow someone (like Aunt Vickie to have that right)...?

And will there be a hearing to see if/when she gets them back?

Lena has got to see the CPS took them , Jo Ann has got to go to visitation with her the last 2 weeks. As far as I know Ralph has not been to visitation.

As to the second part of question, I hadnt thought about it, But I will talk to hubby and see what if anything we can do.

 

[Vickie Bowen]

Where is Tom's Run? Is that the Vadis house? If not, has the Tom's Run area been searched?

Toms Run is on rt 19 south of Weston.

no it has not been searched as far as I know, havent heard anything about it

 

[deelytful1]

Does anyone know if either RL or LL was asked to take a Polygraph? I read somewhere awhile back that they wouldn't give one to LL due to pregnancy but with the recent revealing of the "gag order" lie, they may have asked and they both refused.

Is LL close enough to Joanne that she would be honest and tell her if something bad happened and would Joanne be the type to protect her daughter?
Could be why she is so distraught besides being full of determination and pursuing either finding Aliayah or getting justice for her... IMO.

 

[Sharedspirit]

Toms Run is on rt 19 south of Weston.

no it has not been searched as far as I know, havent heard anything about it

Thanks Vickie

Do you know who owns the home on Toms Run where they lived. I wonder if the owner would be willing to allow a private search party go there? Does the FBI know that they lived there? If not, they should. That area needs searched.

 

[Vickie Bowen]

Thank you for finding those answers Vickie. We're slowly getting an idea of what the home life may have been like.

Another question for you.

What is Lena's personality like? If Ralph does something she disapproves of, does she let him know it?

The last time I was very close to Lena , was about 13 years ago. My Last experience was when Jo Ann and family lived in Orlando, WV Lena would go off on tantrams and destroy things or beat on Wendy, her sister. One day Jo Ann called me to come over, she was crying, so I went. Jo Ann had been to town, Lena stayed home, when she got home, Lena had destroyed the trailor they lived in, thru all the kitchen stuff, pots , pans, dishes, coffee make ect. out into the yard. This was the last time i was around Lena. After that, I was told that Jo Ann had at at least1 time to call the law on Lena over such tantrams, however the 1 was all I saw. I moved away shortly after that to Wheeling, WV and just moved to where I live now in March of this year. I had no contact with Jo Ann again until Aliahay's disapearance.I made that contact by phone to have prayer with her for Aliayah. We have talked often since. And I have visited her a couple times.
wow , didnt mean to get into all that.

I have never seen Lena and ralph together, but I did talk to her about domestic violence, trying to get info. She told me she wasnt afraid of Ralph, that he was afraid of her.

please excuse all my typos, i am tired, ok ok I cant type when I'm not tired either:waitasec:

 

[Vickie Bowen]

Thanks Vickie

Do you know who owns the home on Toms Run where they lived. I wonder if the owner would be willing to allow a private search party go there? Does the FBI know that they lived there? If not, they should. That area needs searched.

wow, no I dont, but you can bet me and my bros. will be on it tomorrow after church.........you guys are good :great:

 

[TheDuchess]

Vickie-thanks for being so open. I have a few questions.

I had read about AL being I'll with diarrhea. Do we know that to be true? Is it possible she had ingested something?

In LLs crazed 2 hour run around town looking for AL why did she wait so long to call LE? Did she not have a phone or cell phone?

Do you know if LLs car has been impounded to check for evidence?

Do we know for sure that the older siblings saw AL that morning?

That's all I can think of for now. Bless your heart for stepping up to the plate for this precious little girl.

 

[Vickie Bowen]

Does anyone know if either RL or LL was asked to take a Polygraph? I read somewhere awhile back that they wouldn't give one to LL due to pregnancy but with the recent revealing of the "gag order" lie, they may have asked and they both refused.

Is LL close enough to Joanne that she would be honest and tell her if something bad happened and would Joanne be the type to protect her daughter?
Could be why she is so distraught besides being full of determination and pursuing either finding Aliayah or getting justice for her... IMO.

I do know Ralph has been polygraphed more than once
they wouldnt polygraph Lena because of pregnancy

as for part 2 of question, i could have answered that this morning, but I cant now, because of some things that are going on right now, I really cant say

 

[CJMAJORGIRL24]

Night everyone. I was so sure today would be the day that we heard good news, but I was just reminded that everything happens in God's time, and so I am trusting that he knows best.

Sweetest dreams little Aliayah-you are in my heart and prayers. Vickie you are also, keep your chin up and your head held high!

 

[Vickie Bowen]

Vickie-thanks for being so open. I have a few questions.

I had read about AL being I'll with diarrhea. Do we know that to be true? Is it possible she had ingested something? ** I was told it was a cold and fever, what you said i was told was RUMOR

In LLs crazed 2 hour run around town looking for AL why did she wait so long to call LE? Did she not have a phone or cell phone?** I do not know

Do you know if LLs car has been impounded to check for evidence?
**No she is and has been driving it.
Do we know for sure that the older siblings saw AL that morning?
**I dont know, only what Lena said, aint even gonna repeat it, lie most likely
That's all I can think of for now. Bless your heart for stepping up to the plate for this precious little girl.

hope answers work this way

 

[lynnb]

After hearing Vickie describe Lena's tantrums, I guess it is safe to assume that Lena wears the pants in this family.

I really wish we all lived in West Virginia and could get together to help find this little girl.

 

[Vickie Bowen]

One more

Ralph's connection to Vadis. Is this the area he was born and raised in? Where his family lives?

yes Ralphs family still live there

 

[cc81]

Don't worry so much about typos Vickie.. I have to correct spelling and/or wording in like 80% of my posts

Thanks so much for your info!

 

[lynnb]

maybe we need to look at another scenario.....We know Lena took a 2 hr (approx) drive that day claiming she was looking for Aliayah. But it's always bothered me that she took the other kids. You would think she would have left them at home if she left to do something with Aliayah.
What if Lena never left with Aliayah....what if she took the other kids out of the house so someone else could come and handle things. KWIM?
Who would Lena trust enough to call?
(Vickie...I'm sorry if that is too graphic for you....and I know it sucks to even think like that.....but we need to explore all scenarios)

 

[Sharedspirit]

After hearing Vickie describe Lena's tantrums, I guess it is safe to assume that Lena wears the pants in this family.

I really wish we all lived in West Virginia and could get together to help find this little girl.

After hearing Vickie's description of Lena's trantrums, I'm reminded of my own children's behavior after I left their abusive father. Two of my daughters spent time in the hospital after their behavior was so out of control. Many years of therapy and lots of love (some of it some very tough love, including calling LE on them), they are doing great and have children of their own whom they care for very well. It doesn't always turn out that way. Some abused children, without therapy, will become abusers themselves.

 

[Vickie Bowen]

most of day no questions, then ya all try to kill me

did I get em all, did I did I ? lol

I'm Tired and going to bed, so go ahead and talk behind my back lol

Good night and God Bless, Praying for Aliayah........

 

[sisoftruth]

Vickie, so glad that you are now here on WS. I haven't posted here but have read much. Very good site and usually very respectful with good mods.

I participated in the Q&A on FB. Thought you and brothers did a great job. Some folks make assumptions without knowing all the facts. I for one am sure you and others in your family have been doing all you are able to help find AL.

I pray for her and your family. Thanks for your diligence in setting the record straight as much as you can. I look forward to your further postings. Don't worry about spelling and grammer. Silly that others would.

Maybe Trisha can interview you on WS radio. She has some on who are commentators on MSM. Would be a good venue to get the word out and make connections to get AL's story in MSM.

 

[Vickie Bowen]

Don't worry so much about typos Vickie.. I have to correct spelling and/or wording in like 80% of my posts

Thanks so much for your info!

thank you , I really aint illiterate, just cant spell or type :crazy: