Found Deceased WY - Gabby Petito, Grand Teton National Park #87

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  • #701
Moo....I would definitely not want to live next to the Petito's considering their known civil lawsuits. The Laundries keep to themselves. For that reason I would find the Laundries the more peaceful less stressful neighbors..moo
ITA. I thought the one against Laundrie's parents was absurd but the one against Moab police is off the charts blaming police. And there was a third one against Brian's estate that paid out $3 million.

JMO

He also branded the family’s $50 million lawsuit against the department an overreach after Petito’s family was awarded $3 million from the estate of Brian Laundrie in November in a separate lawsuit.
 
  • #702
Not me! I'll take the Petitos as neighbors any day over the Laundries.
Me either, I would be horrified to find myself living next door to the Laundrie offspring, one being a calculated murderer., and not keen to go out to work, home all day, lolling about, building up his resentment....

'The horror, the horror'......

the obstructionist Laundrie's senior would be a immediately sent to coventry. They would be the type to lurk, late at night, to annoy one's cat. You'd do the neighborly thing and bring their bins in, but they would merely accept that as their royal due. No pressies at Chrissie.

I cannot not recall, and remember being curious at the time about this.. . . did Brian have any legal means of support? or funding.?? were his parents bankrolling his tour? I recall that Gabby was working, and Brian resenting her work, but I also recall Brian being workshy himself, a bloke of no visible means of support , .. how did Brian pay for meals, and fuel, and general items, laundry, soap, toothpaste, his contribution to fuel and car maintenance.?... I have often thought that he stole her car as a sort of trophy, ditto the credit cards, out of spite and entitlement, but perhaps he was dependent on Gabby's savings, and income stream from the vid clips .. perhaps he had no choice about stealing those cards.
 
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The allegations are in the lawsuit the family filed against Moab police. It's a public record. You're correct, allegations are not facts.

I stated it was my opinion. I concur with the attorney for Moab police. The lawsuit is a publicity stunt.

JMO

I don't see anything here that shows Gaby's parents thought Brian was abusing Gabby before their trip. You asserted that her parents knew Brian was abusing Gabby during their relationship yet didn't try to stop it, makes her parents look bad. Like they just let her be abused. ...2 cents
 
  • #705
The allegations are in the lawsuit the family filed against Moab police. It's a public record. You're correct, allegations are not facts.

I stated it was my opinion. I concur with the attorney for Moab police. The lawsuit is a publicity stunt.

JMO

A great publicity stunt if it results in the Moab police examining their procedures, as they did, and finding major errors in it, which they did, and instigating procedural corrections to that error filled pattern of behaviour, which they did. What's to complain about there? ... if it cost Gabby's life, that is still too high a price to pay, as they should have seen it without this horrific murder, by a bloke they schmoozzed with and damn near cuddled,

That they will probably always take a deeper look when a uninvolved bystander reports a bloke throttling a girl in broad daylight, on the pavement, and him trying to drive off, and her flinging herself inside the window of the car, well, hell yes, that's a particular reason to view things with a broader perspective.
 
  • #706
I don't see anything here that shows Gaby's parents thought Brian was abusing Gabby before their trip. You asserted that her parents knew Brian was abusing Gabby during their relationship yet didn't try to stop it, makes her parents look bad. Like they just let her be abused. ...2 cents
I never read anything ever that even came close to broadly hinting at that outlook. They were a bit wary of him, as any parent would be, he was directionless, no career, not good looking in any one's perspective, he had no prospects of inherited wealth, and I suspect Brian was charmless most of the time except when he wanted something done for him or given to him, a manipulating dill. He wasn't good at sports, although he posed himself as a sort of cod conservationist, sure, the murdering kind, but hey....

That's a long way from abuse, although , as it turns out. he was abusing her, wasn't he. To death. didn't he.

**explainer*. 'cod'... british slang for poseur, false, pretender, dreary copy, originally from the idea of asking for turbot at the fish stall in the market, turbot being an expensive high class fine fish, and being sold cod, a coarse common fish . ......
 
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  • #707
I am not surprised by the statement from the attorney representing the Moab police department. Period.

What I do recall, was that watching some of this case evolution and outcome….. including I believe a Dateline and 48 Hours expose……. it sure broke my heart to see all of the recorded police bodycam and dash cam video of police interactions that day with the victim GP and murderer BL - and seeing how this ultimately turned out. Sadly for GP.
MOO
 
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  • #708
I don't see anything here that shows Gaby's parents thought Brian was abusing Gabby before their trip. You asserted that her parents knew Brian was abusing Gabby during their relationship yet didn't try to stop it, makes her parents look bad. Like they just let her be abused. ...2 cents
I don't remember the exact wording on the lawsuit against Moab police. It claims Gabby told her family that Brian had hit her, so they were arranging for her to fly home and they would have the van transported. It goes on to claim that Gabby then told them police had been called so her family thought police would take care of the situation.

I have no idea what they thought Moab police would or could do. They didn't witness the fight. Police usually separate the couple for the night. They could have arrested Gabby and didn't because the couple begged them not to arrest either one of them.

JMO

The couple told police that they were in love, engaged to be married and “desperately didn’t wish anyone to be charged with a crime,” the report states. An investigating officer opted to separate them for the night so they could “relax their emotions,” driving Laundrie to a hotel and leaving Petito with the van.

“I do not believe the situation escalated to the level of a domestic assault as much as that of a mental health crisis,” an investigating officer wrote.
 
  • #709
A great publicity stunt if it results in the Moab police examining their procedures, as they did, and finding major errors in it, which they did, and instigating procedural corrections to that error filled pattern of behaviour, which they did.

The city already did all that before they were sued.

 
  • #710
I don't remember the exact wording on the lawsuit against Moab police. It claims Gabby told her family that Brian had hit her, so they were arranging for her to fly home and they would have the van transported. It goes on to claim that Gabby then told them police had been called so her family thought police would take care of the situation.

I have no idea what they thought Moab police would or could do. They didn't witness the fight. Police usually separate the couple for the night. They could have arrested Gabby and didn't because the couple begged them not to arrest either one of them.

JMO

The couple told police that they were in love, engaged to be married and “desperately didn’t wish anyone to be charged with a crime,” the report states. An investigating officer opted to separate them for the night so they could “relax their emotions,” driving Laundrie to a hotel and leaving Petito with the van.

“I do not believe the situation escalated to the level of a domestic assault as much as that of a mental health crisis,” an investigating officer wrote.

Moab, UT - Official Website
https://moabcity.org/DocumentCenter/View/3432/...
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Combined Statement and Investigative Report - Petito-Laundrie Incident​

Statement On Investigative Review of Aug. 12 …

Moab authorities released a report Wednesday on the independent investigation into their police department's handling of the Aug. 12 domestic call involving Gabby Petito and Brian Laundrie – which resulted in no arrests despite Utah state law mandating an arrest or citation in domestic violence incidents.
 
  • #711
The city already did all that before they were sued.


'''“After a formal complaint was filed with the Moab City Police Department,.....'''' Who made the formal complaint first?... hard to believe it was the Laundrie's complaining that Brian was not given a shaving kit, and new Dolce and Gabbana luggage to continue on with his trip. ...........surely it was the P's who made this first formal complaint. . , when the dept. upped it's game, already admitting it's procedures were cack, that's the time to sue, really, in anyone's world.


The P's were even more entitled to sue, and even more, much more , entitled to be awarded a punitive dollar amount as adjudged. .

If things were that bad that they didn't even wait to be sued by the P's, you know it was really , really off the scale. So a great outcome all round, and what a pity it took such a horrific event to provoke it.
 
  • #712
MOO:

Even though we do not know the date that BL's mother wrote her 'Destroy After Reading' letter, the fact that we now know she was aware (at any point) that he conveyed to them that Gabby was 'gone' makes me see her comments in an even more incriminating light. IMO, it gives more weight to her references of jail, shovel, etc, etc.

I wish she had dated that letter.
 
  • #713
MOO:

Even though we do not know the date that BL's mother wrote her 'Destroy After Reading' letter, the fact that we now know she was aware (at any point) that he conveyed to them that Gabby was 'gone' makes me see her comments in an even more incriminating light. IMO, it gives more weight to her references of jail, shovel, etc, etc.

I wish she had dated that letter.
It's in the context I always thought it was "Burn after reading" because it's so incriminating.
 
  • #714
The city already did all that before they were sued.

Yep. The Petito attorneys also released a photo of Gabby's injuries. I'd like to know who she sent it to and why they didn't intervene on her behalf.


JMO
 
  • #715
I have many photos on my cell phone that I took for private reasons - self protection amongst them. Never sent them to anyone. It wouldn't surprise me if Gabby had done the same.
 
  • #716
It's in the context I always thought it was "Burn after reading" because it's so incriminating.
Can any of y'all ever imagine getting a letter from your mother that said "Burn after reading"? What a complete nutter. :rolleyes:
 
  • #717
Can any of y'all ever imagine getting a letter from your mother that said "Burn after reading"? What a complete nutter. :rolleyes:
I've never got one like that from my mother, and neither has any of my friends.. Their mothers are stable women, too. Who didn't she want reading it?.. it is difficult to believe it was written BEFORE the hoo hah errupted, she claims this but logic refutes it . ''Burn after reading'.. this is something you want eradicated due to a ghastly situation that has arisen, it is not the norm.
 
  • #718
I don't remember the exact wording on the lawsuit against Moab police. It claims Gabby told her family that Brian had hit her, so they were arranging for her to fly home and they would have the van transported. It goes on to claim that Gabby then told them police had been called so her family thought police would take care of the situation.

I have no idea what they thought Moab police would or could do. They didn't witness the fight. Police usually separate the couple for the night. They could have arrested Gabby and didn't because the couple begged them not to arrest either one of them.

JMO

The couple told police that they were in love, engaged to be married and “desperately didn’t wish anyone to be charged with a crime,” the report states. An investigating officer opted to separate them for the night so they could “relax their emotions,” driving Laundrie to a hotel and leaving Petito with the van.

“I do not believe the situation escalated to the level of a domestic assault as much as that of a mental health crisis,” an investigating officer wrote.
The lawsuit recounts that during the police stop, Petito called her parents and told them she and Laundrie were fighting; her parents urged her to separate herself from Laundrie and offered to pay for her to travel home. When they learned the police were involved, the lawsuit says, they trusted that appropriate protective actions would be taken, and stepped back from the situation.
According to the suit, Petito contacted her family after the incident, showing them pictures of the scratches she sustained during the fight. The family then began arranging to fly Petito home in an attempt to separate her from Laundrie. However, the suit states the family “stepped back” from those arrangements upon learning police were investigating the matter.

I wonder why Gabby's family decided to not insist that she leave BL and immediately come home?

They must have assumed that she was not in any danger. Reminds my of how the Laundries may have assumed that Gabby left BL after another DV incident.


 
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'''“After a formal complaint was filed with the Moab City Police Department,.....'''' Who made the formal complaint first?... hard to believe it was the Laundrie's complaining that Brian was not given a shaving kit, and new Dolce and Gabbana luggage to continue on with his trip. ...........surely it was the P's who made this first formal complaint. .

rsbbm

No, as discussed in the article, the investigation of the incident began in response to a complaint from the wife of a police officer in the video. She complained that some private medical information was talked about in the video and was not redacted from the video.
 
  • #720
MOO:

Even though we do not know the date that BL's mother wrote her 'Destroy After Reading' letter, the fact that we now know she was aware (at any point) that he conveyed to them that Gabby was 'gone' makes me see her comments in an even more incriminating light. IMO, it gives more weight to her references of jail, shovel, etc, etc.

I wish she had dated that letter.
Actually, the envelope said "Burn After Reading" and, according to Mrs. Laundrie, it was because Gabby had given Brian a book called "Burn After Writing" and they joked about it. She said she wrote it before Brian left with Gabby on their trip.

It included a Bible verse. There is nothing nefarious about the letter.

JMO

“I just want you to remember I will always love you, and I know you will always love me. You are my boy. Nothing can make me stop loving you, nothing will or could ever divide us no matter what we do, or where we go or what we say — we will always love each other,” Roberta Laundrie wrote.

“If you’re in jail, I will bake a cake with a file in it. If you need to dispose of a body, I will show up with a shovel and garbage bags. If you fly to the moon, I will be watching the skies for your re-entry. If you say you hate my guts, I’ll get new guts,” the letter continued.

Roberta Laundrie included a Bible verse from Romans 8:38.

She ended the letter by saying: “(Nothing can separate us: not hatred, not hunger, not homelessness, not threats, not even sin, not the thinkable or unthinkable can get between us.) ~ Not time. Not miles and miles and miles. ~”

The letter was in an envelope that said, “Brian Christopher Laundrie (burn after reading).”
 
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