Found Deceased WY - Gabby Petito, Grand Teton National Park #88

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  • #881
I agree. Their actions in the bodycam video are ghastly. I'm skeptical that Brian was even alive at that point while they were claiming he was in the house.
Agreed. It feels like they were 'buying him time' to run.. not sure if they went camping with Brian and his sister before or after Gabby's car was towed from their driveway and that bodycam. But they KNEW, Oh they knew what happened to her... and is why they lawyered up so fast. Shameful and disgusting what they put that family through, deliberately. imo
 
  • #882
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Gabby Petito’s parents crushed her van.They did not want anyone else owning it - and it was too painful to keep.They have pieces of the van in their living room as a memory of Gabby.

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  • #883
Agreed. It feels like they were 'buying him time' to run.. not sure if they went camping with Brian and his sister before or after Gabby's car was towed from their driveway and that bodycam. But they KNEW, Oh they knew what happened to her... and is why they lawyered up so fast. Shameful and disgusting what they put that family through, deliberately. imo
It was , at that time, one of the most the most cruel things I had ever witnessed. It was shocking to see parents who had not one drop of empathy for the parents of a missing young lady. No compassion at all.
It still is. I don't know how they live with themselves. Jmo.
 
  • #884
I don't have Netflix so I haven't watched the documentary.

I was wondering if they portrayed the police and the Laundries as being responsible for Gabby's death.
I wouldn't say portrayed... but the truth in the story sure points in both directions unequivocally, YES.

And In Utah, from what I understand police officers now are required to ask a set of 11 questions during a domestic violence call, known as a "lethality assessment," to evaluate the potential danger a victim might be in; these questions focus on threats of violence, weapon access, controlling behaviors, and past incidents of abuse, helping to determine if the victim needs immediate intervention and access to support services.

I WISH they'd have used (something like) this when they Pulled over Brian and Gabby instead of sending him to a hotel and directing her her to a nearby PAY SHOWER?! :mad: moo


eta ~The documentary says that even after they were separated by the police and told to stay that way for the night, separated, they did not and met up later that night :/
 
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  • #885
I wouldn't say portrayed... but the truth in the story sure points in both directions unequivocally, YES.

And In Utah, from what I understand police officers now are required to ask a set of 11 questions during a domestic violence call, known as a "lethality assessment," to evaluate the potential danger a victim might be in; these questions focus on threats of violence, weapon access, controlling behaviors, and past incidents of abuse, helping to determine if the victim needs immediate intervention and access to support services.

I WISH they'd have used this when they Pulled over Brian and Gabby instead of sending him to a hotel and directing her her to a nearby PAY SHOWER?! :mad: moo

The van belonged to her though. It essentially was her "home" per what LE was told (& what the vehicle registration must have said.) I don't think LE could have gotten her a hotel room and given him her house/van. Of course, we know they didn't stay apart for the night anyway & I suspect LE thought they wouldn't.
MOO
 
  • #886
The van belonged to her though. It essentially was her "home" per what LE was told (& what the vehicle registration must have said.) I don't think LE could have gotten her a hotel room and given him her house/van. Of course, we know they didn't stay apart for the night anyway & I suspect LE thought they wouldn't.
MOO
Very true. It's SO sad that there are so many, many, simple things that could have been done differently which would have and could have changed the outcome here, and Gabby would still be alive... So much hindsight :( Too little and way too late. imo
 
  • #887
I wouldn't say portrayed... but the truth in the story sure points in both directions unequivocally, YES.

And In Utah, from what I understand police officers now are required to ask a set of 11 questions during a domestic violence call, known as a "lethality assessment," to evaluate the potential danger a victim might be in; these questions focus on threats of violence, weapon access, controlling behaviors, and past incidents of abuse, helping to determine if the victim needs immediate intervention and access to support services.

I WISH they'd have used this when they Pulled over Brian and Gabby instead of sending him to a hotel and directing her her to a nearby PAY SHOWER?! :mad: moo


eta ~The documentary says that even after they were separated by the police and told to stay that way for the night, separated, they did not and met up later that night :/
I think (I may be wrong though) that the questions were introduced after a campaign by gabbys parents so the police wouldn’t have been able to ask when they initially pulled the couple over.
 
  • #888
The van belonged to her though. It essentially was her "home" per what LE was told (& what the vehicle registration must have said.) I don't think LE could have gotten her a hotel room and given him her house/van. Of course, we know they didn't stay apart for the night anyway & I suspect LE thought they wouldn't.
MOO
I can't fault LE for not being able to keep Gabby and Brian separated. Even if they locked him up for a day or two they would have still gotten back together. JMO.
 
  • #889
I can't fault LE for not being able to keep Gabby and Brian separated. Even if they locked him up for a day or two they would have still gotten back together. JMO.
I agree. Since GP didn't leave when calling her ex-boyfriend about leaving when BL was over 2000 miles away in Florida, I doubt separating for a full day and night in Utah would have made a difference either.
MOO
 
  • #890
I think (I may be wrong though) that the questions were introduced after a campaign by gabbys parents so the police wouldn’t have been able to ask when they initially pulled the couple over.
Yes that is true, you're correct. And sad that nothing like that was incorporated into LE's training to begin with even before Gabby's murder :(
 
  • #891
Great documentary on Netflix. Sad and infuriating at the same time.
Brian and his parents are a disgrace.
 
  • #892
Oh boy. Having fallen down a rabbit hole when Gabby went missing and knowing every single detail of this sad case almost down to the minute, watching the documentary just opened my eyes so much more. Seeing and hearing both of them, the parts that were missing from that last day, all those reports we poured over, the Laundries and the did they or didn’t they know at the beginning… It is heartbreaking having it all put into perspective years later. I felt bad for the Laundries for so, so long until it all the truth came out and they admitted they knew Gabby was gone but wow, just WOW. I am utterly heartbroken. I am not ashamed to say I am a mess. What a ray of light Gabby was. What a bright young woman with such a loving family and wonderful friends. As @samsmom said, “powerful”.
 
  • #893
Oh boy. Having fallen down a rabbit hole when Gabby went missing and knowing every single detail of this sad case almost down to the minute, watching the documentary just opened my eyes so much more. Seeing and hearing both of them, the parts that were missing from that last day, all those reports we poured over, the Laundries and the did they or didn’t they know at the beginning… It is heartbreaking having it all put into perspective years later. I felt bad for the Laundries for so, so long until it all the truth came out and they admitted they knew Gabby was gone but wow, just WOW. I am utterly heartbroken. I am not ashamed to say I am a mess. What a ray of light Gabby was. What a bright young woman with such a loving family and wonderful friends. As @samsmom said, “powerful”.
Can you help out us people who don't have Netflix and give us some details on how and when the Laundries admitted they knew Gabby was gone.
 
  • #894
I watched the Netflix doc. Now we know what happened at the Mexican Restaurant in Jackson. Her stomach was upset and she attributed it to something she ate. She texted Brian from the bathroom that she didn’t want to pay for food that made her sick. That explains both why the restaurant didn’t want to talk about what happened and also why she went back in and asked for their money back after they left.
AFAIK, food poisoning doesn't work that fast. Sounds like an excuse to get out of paying.
 
  • #895
AFAIK, food poisoning doesn't work that fast. Sounds like an excuse to get out of paying.
Not all but some can.

The time it takes food poisoning symptoms to start can vary. Illness often starts in about 1 to 3 days. But symptoms can start any time from 30 minutes to 3 weeks after eating contaminated food. The length of time depends on the type of bacteria or virus causing the illness.


Also, even if it was one that took days, I feel that a lot of people aren't aware of that, and instead figure it was what they last ate. I make that comment from a semi-personal experience. A group of us went out to lunch, one gal had pretty much immediate "stomach" upset (bathroom trips) after eating and told management while we were still there. She wasn't trying to get out of paying the bill, it was more a FYI to them. I know she wasn't faking it because she was quite miserable in the commute back to work, and I was just hoping to hurry and get her out of my car without getting a ticket for speeding. lol

So, maybe Gabby/BL was trying to get out of paying the bill, or maybe it was like my friend who associated it with the last thing she ate (while still at the restaurant). It could have been from the day or 2 before, but she was pretty focused on it being what she last ate. It's understandable. JMO!
 
  • #896
Not all but some can.

The time it takes food poisoning symptoms to start can vary. Illness often starts in about 1 to 3 days. But symptoms can start any time from 30 minutes to 3 weeks after eating contaminated food. The length of time depends on the type of bacteria or virus causing the illness.


Also, even if it was one that took days, I feel that a lot of people aren't aware of that, and instead figure it was what they last ate. I make that comment from a semi-personal experience. A group of us went out to lunch, one gal had pretty much immediate "stomach" upset (bathroom trips) after eating and told management while we were still there. She wasn't trying to get out of paying the bill, it was more a FYI to them. I know she wasn't faking it because she was quite miserable in the commute back to work, and I was just hoping to hurry and get her out of my car without getting a ticket for speeding. lol

So, maybe Gabby/BL was trying to get out of paying the bill, or maybe it was like my friend who associated it with the last thing she ate (while still at the restaurant). It could have been from the day or 2 before, but she was pretty focused on it being what she last ate. It's understandable. JMO!
Still, did the manager try to negotiate with them or comp their bill? Brian Laundrie was a cheapskate, so I would believe that he put her up to this.
 
  • #897
Still, did the manager try to negotiate with them or comp their bill? Brian Laundrie was a cheapskate, so I would believe that he put her up to this.
That I have no problem disbelieving (That BK was a cheapskate, among other things).
 
  • #898
Still, did the manager try to negotiate with them or comp their bill? Brian Laundrie was a cheapskate, so I would believe that he put her up to this.
I don't think there's evidence it was BL's idea to claim illness from the Merry Piglets food. And if there were, I doubt it would have been hidden in the documentary.

The film reported BL texted GP (when she was in the restroom) asking "should I get a to go box?" and she replied she didn't want to pay for food that made her sick. Maybe he introduced her to the scam earlier in their travels & maybe they used it often, particularly if either of them ordered a dish at a restaurant they ended up not liking. But at the Mexican restaurant it sounds like GP instigated reporting illness & trying to not pay for the food. Better to have complained earlier to the server she thought the food smelled and tasted off (as she said it did in her now-reported text) rather than eat some and and once it's time to settle up, say the food was bad. Most restaurant personnel aren't going to buy that IMO. And as you said, most kinds of food poisoning don't work that quickly and if they did, the restaurant would probably be full of obviously sick people!
MOO
 
  • #899
I wouldn't say portrayed... but the truth in the story sure points in both directions unequivocally, YES.

And In Utah, from what I understand police officers now are required to ask a set of 11 questions during a domestic violence call, known as a "lethality assessment," to evaluate the potential danger a victim might be in; these questions focus on threats of violence, weapon access, controlling behaviors, and past incidents of abuse, helping to determine if the victim needs immediate intervention and access to support services.

I WISH they'd have used (something like) this when they Pulled over Brian and Gabby instead of sending him to a hotel and directing her her to a nearby PAY SHOWER?! :mad: moo


eta ~The documentary says that even after they were separated by the police and told to stay that way for the night, separated, they did not and met up later that night :/
That "lethality assessment protocol" law apparently wasn't in place at the time of Brian and Gabby's police stop, but has gone into effect since then (2023) thanks in part to the support of Gabby's family
The tail end of the Netflix show, showed the family's involvement in supporting the bill.
 
  • #900
AFAIK, food poisoning doesn't work that fast. Sounds like an excuse to get out of paying.
as some one with a pretty much cast iron stomach who once ate a very bad meat pie in a foreign airport, I can tell you that sometimes your stomach will immediately reject tainted food- it just pops right back up.
(of course not sure what GP was experiencing)
 
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