Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #17

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We still don't know if she was harmed. Accidents happen in the wild all the time and that still may be a possibility. Brian is said to only be 5'8" and 160lbs and Gabbie is said to have been 5'5 and 110lbs. He physically looks thin and weak, and like he wouldn't have the arm strength to move around a 110lb body IMO. In some photos his arms look as skinny as hers does. Also I read that he was vegan and was living off mostly watermelon/fruits on this road trip which would make him even weaker.
47923351-9990735-North_Port_Police_are_asking_for_Brian_Laundrie_pictured_left_to-a-55_1631654733334.jpg

So, she got hurt accidentally, and he just left her there? Or he stole her van, leaving a healthy Gabby behind in the woods with no way to get home, and something terrible happened to her that BL had no part in? If he didn’t hurt her himself, these are pretty much the only other options. Which do you think puts BL in the best light?
 
  • #143
Thank you for sharing that

After searching a bit on Google Maps, trying to interpret the chopper's angles, I believe this to be the site where Gabby was found:

Google Maps

I think you’re off a bit. check out @brokensafety post #562 in thread #15.
 
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We still don't know if she was harmed. Accidents happen in the wild all the time and that still may be a possibility. Brian is said to only be 5'8" and 160lbs and Gabbie is said to have been 5'5 and 110lbs. He physically looks thin and weak, and like he wouldn't have the arm strength to move around a 110lb body IMO. In some photos his arms look as skinny as hers does. Also I read that he was vegan and was living off mostly watermelon/fruits on this road trip which would make him even weaker.
I know whenever someone I love dies accidentally in my presence, I make sure to not tell anyone, go on the run, and get my parents across the country to lawyer up and refuse to cooperate with the authorities regarding my missing loved one.
 
  • #145
Is BL officially a wanted suspect or is he still considered a missing person? If the latter, it is doubtful that LE can justify continuing to expend considerable resources pulling out all stops searching for him at this time. If or when it becomes an official manhunt, however, I imagine LE resources from across the state (and nation) will bring hell upon anyone trying to hide from this.

In fact, they may have "stopped" looking for him just long enough to now re-characterize the investigation and ramp up their efforts.

JMO.

They may be waiting for the COD.
 
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I think the FBI confirmed it was her, didn’t they? Later last night.

EDIT: I’m making this up apparently! But I don’t think they would act as confident if there wasn’t some indication that was assuredly her.

You aren’t imagining it. I read the same thing on more than one news outlet last night. They must have backed off of that statement for now.
 
  • #147
Worth a look. Edit: it is a cleaned up version.
You are amazing and are also scientifically and reality based!!! Thank you for taking the time to go through this.
I'm so sorry to read the news that they believe Gabby Petito's body has been recovered.

From one adventurer to another....

How I go to the woods


Ordinarily, I go to the woods alone, with not a single friend, for they are all smilers and talkers and therefore unsuitable.

I don’t really want to be witnessed talking to the catbirds or hugging the old black oak tree. I have my way of praying, as you no doubt have yours.

Besides, when I am alone I can become invisible. I can sit on the top of a dune as motionless as an uprise of weeds, until the foxes run by unconcerned. I can hear the almost unhearable sound of the roses singing.

If you have ever gone to the woods with me, I must love you very much.”

― Mary Oliver
beautifully said. god bless
 
  • #148
BL's parents searched the reserve themselves on Wednesday and Thursday, before their lawyer called the police on Friday.
On Wednesday they saw the car with the official note on it saying that the car had to be moved. They left the car there overnight for their son to use if he showed up. They picked the car up on Thursday. (The reporters outside the house saying they saw the car there on Wednesday evidently had their days mixed up.)

In this article is one of the videos that explains part of this (their searches on Wednesday and Thursday).
Body matching description of Gabrielle 'Gabby' Petito found in Grand Teton, FBI confirms

I am still looking for the other video where I saw the info about the note on the car and them later picking up the car. If I find it, I will post it.

I don't think their lawyer will be lying. He is acting as intermediary for them, for good reason. Because what he says should be relied on. It is his reputation at stake.

except the press has footage from Wednesday showing the mustang in the driveway.
 
  • #149
Does the hitchiking make sense to anyone? now we saw the van parked and her body not so far away I can't see why he would have thumbed a lift etc. Seems he was with the van all along to me, maybe I am missing something
As several others have said, I believe this was a calculated move on Brian’s part to create an alibi. I’m not sure he planned every detail of his next moves, but I feel this was his initial way of hopefully blaming Gabby’s death on a stranger.
 
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I have to admit I’m new to this case. I saw bits and pieces on social media but it wasn’t until the body was found that I came here. I pray it’s her so that her family gets to bring her home.. nobody deserves to have a loved one go missing and not be able to have them home in their final resting place. I am also curious as to why they seemed to all of a sudden halt everything in regards to Brian. I don’t think he was ever in North Port. But if that’s the case, SOMEONE had to drive the van home. Because the van showed back up at his house, unless I’m mistaken? But I just don’t think he ever made it home.. he’s on the run. They need to check her bank accounts to make sure he didn’t pull all of her money out and that’s what he is using.
 
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I'm siding with Josh Taylor, spokesperson for the North Port PD (especially due to the bolded emphasis):

“I don’t see how anyone without all the facts in this case can come up with a reasonable conclusion and opinion on the matter.” Ex-homicide detective Pat Diaz slams handling of Gabby Petito case


I do think North Port police dropped the ball. Now, Brian's parents are saying when they found Brian's car that there was a note on it from the police--saying it needed to be removed. How in the world does a car sitting where it shouldn't be not prompt an officer to run the tag and find out it belongs to the family of the most publicized POI in the nation?

And sure, Laundrie's attorney said he would speak for Brian, but why weren't the police on Laundrie's doorstep anyway, asking the parents questions?

And then there's the statement LE made before Brian fled that they "knew where he was." Come on...no one really believes that.

Perhaps they felt stymied by this being a federal case and the fact she was reported missing in a different community, but they should have been leaning on the Laundries. Instead, they treated them with kid gloves.

Yes, they dropped the ball.
 
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BL's parents searched the reserve themselves on Wednesday and Thursday, before their lawyer called the police on Friday.
On Wednesday they saw the car with the official note on it saying that the car had to be moved. They left the car there overnight for their son to use if he showed up. They picked the car up on Thursday. (The reporters outside the house saying they saw the car there on Wednesday evidently had their days mixed up.)

In this article is one of the videos that explains part of this (their searches on Wednesday and Thursday).
Body matching description of Gabrielle 'Gabby' Petito found in Grand Teton, FBI confirms

I am still looking for the other video where I saw the info about the note on the car and them later picking up the car. If I find it, I will post it.

I don't think their lawyer will be lying. He is acting as intermediary for them, for good reason. Because what he says should be relied on. It is his reputation at stake.
no mix up!
https://twitter.com/BrianEntin/status/1439593822506340353?s=20
 
  • #153
At this point in the investigation, is it at all feasible that Brian didn't kill Gabby?

I know the consensus is clearly heavily weighted otherwise, but I'm just playing devil's advocate here (innocent until proven guilty etc etc).

Could he claim he left her in the van, went hitchhiking, and when he returned she was either gone, or dead? Yes, he obviously should've immediately reported her missing/dead, but panicked and fled instead..

Is there already evidence in terms of time frames to refute this and blow his defence clean out of the water or is there a chance that it MIGHT not have been him, and his only crime was fleeing the scene and then having a meltdown and going awol?

MOO
Why did he (likely) try to make it look like she was in Yosemite on the 30th?
 
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At this point in the investigation, is it at all feasible that Brian didn't kill Gabby?

I know the consensus is clearly heavily weighted otherwise, but I'm just playing devil's advocate here (innocent until proven guilty etc etc).

Could he claim he left her in the van, went hitchhiking, and when he returned she was either gone, or dead? Yes, he obviously should've immediately reported her missing/dead, but panicked and fled instead..

Is there already evidence in terms of time frames to refute this and blow his defence clean out of the water or is there a chance that it MIGHT not have been him, and his only crime was fleeing the scene and then having a meltdown and going awol?

MOO
That will likely be his defense if he doesn’t commit suicide in the interim. The fake text from GP’s phone on 30 August (“No service in Yosemite”) will hurt that defense. She obviously didn’t send it. Defense would also be impacted by his not returning any texts / calls to GP’s parents … if he is pleading innocent. He could claim somebody else killed her and sent the fake text. He could claim he was upset and distraught about a breakup and thus didn’t return texts or calls then when it became clear she was missing that his attorney advised him not to answer anything.
 
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We still don't know if she was harmed. Accidents happen in the wild all the time and that still may be a possibility. Brian is said to only be 5'8" and 160lbs and Gabbie is said to have been 5'5 and 110lbs. He physically looks thin and weak, and like he wouldn't have the arm strength to move around a 110lb body IMO. In some photos his arms look as skinny as hers does. Also I read that he was vegan and was living off mostly watermelon/fruits on this road trip which would make him even weaker.
47923351-9990735-North_Port_Police_are_asking_for_Brian_Laundrie_pictured_left_to-a-55_1631654733334.jpg
Ok we know she was harmed. That's already been affirmed. Actually harmed to death. 110 against adreneline?

Edit for typos
 
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Is BL officially a wanted suspect or is he still considered a missing person? If the latter, it is doubtful that LE can justify continuing to expend considerable resources pulling out all stops searching for him at this time. If or when it becomes an official manhunt, however, I imagine LE resources from across the state (and nation) will bring hell upon anyone trying to hide from this.

In fact, they may have "stopped" looking for him just long enough to now re-characterize the investigation and ramp up their efforts.

JMO.
He is a POI in hiding
IMO
 
  • #159
When LE stops looking for a missing POI it could mean:
1. They know conclusively that he's dead.
2. They've been contacted by BL's lawyer and are making plans to have BL turn himself in.
3. They're satisfied he's nowhere in the preserve.
There is a 4th option, unlikely but possible,
They have evidence he isn't a suspect in the crime.
 
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MOO In regards to the hitchhiker, she turned on a road, not the 191 which would have passed the campsite, he then freaks out asks to get out. Maybe he wanted to go past the site to see if there was police presence etc. If he left her in the open he could of been waiting for her to be discovered. Hence him being away from the scene, alibi.
I agree with this speculation as well. The fact that it was 6:30 PM, close to getting dark, IMO though, I think he was at the point where he had the alibi set with MB HH, and he had to get to where he parked the van before dark, then he headed East to Florida pretty soon thereafter. I also believe it is possible all cell phones were ditched at this point.
 
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