Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #26

[jamicat]

I don’t think Gabby would have EVER settled for THAT SPOT as a place to “camp”. There was nothig good about it…..

According to another family looking for a spot, THAT SPOT might have been the only spot. We’ve had to settle for spots that we didn’t want for that reason

 

[kittythehare]

Joe Murray, former cop and now an attorney, answered a question wanting to know if Laundrie could be picked up on some other charge (besides the murder of GP), purportedly to get him into custody. A proposed scenario included his driving GP's van. Murray said it would not be enough because the two of them (Gabby and Brian) were engaged, living together, and may have had an agreement to share the van, regardless of who the van was titled to. End of van discussion -- from me, anyway.

My post was a response to what Joe Murray allegedly said, actually.

..when all circumstances etc..

 

[citizen_sleuth]

Well.. it kind of works like that. I've admitted myself to a local psych hospital in the past - I am diagnosed with anxiety and depression, and my first round of depression meds a few years ago made me suicidal. They took me right in, barely asked me anything. Additionally, my former roommates parents had him involuntarily committed TWICE (over age 18) with no prior diagnosis. This is all in North Carolina, but I don't think its truly that difficult, tbh. The pandemic may make it an issue, but if they say he is suicidal and he shows/says ANYTHING to the intake people like the "episodes" mentioned by the friend Rose, he's in. Plus, he is likely on his parents insurance, being 23 years old. Seems to me like it wouldn't be beneath any of them to lie, MOO.

Speaking from personal experience, psychiatric wards will turn away people if no beds are available and they do not pose an immediate threat to themselves or others. Unfortunately, mental health is chronically underfunded in the US and a lack of beds for cases of acute crisis is a frequent issue in many hospitals. Additionally, IMO Brian is narcissistic and probably wouldn’t voluntarily enter a psychiatric facility as a result (especially considering how he degraded GP during the stop in Moab for being ‘crazy’).

The other option is involuntarily commitment but it is very difficult to get a legal adult committed to a psychiatric institution—a judge has to make that determination after a court hearing. When I was 13, I spent 2 months in psychiatric facilities and because of the near impossibility of involuntarily committing me in that that state (WA) because I was of the age of maturity, my parents ‘moved’ me (I.e., took me against my will) to a different facility in Oregon where the age of maturity was higher. IMHO it is very unlikely Brian has been in any psychiatric facility in the past 2-ish weeks for these reasons.

 

[LinasK]

Exactly what he said moments ago on CNN. Good to see you Linas it's been awhile.

Thanks. I wasn't active for quite awhile. Seeing lots of oldtimers here on this case. I've got some time now <modsnip>

 

[JuneRose]

Is it on investigation discovery? I have it set to record but it’s showing a different episode.

The one about this case comes on at 10pm

 

[Veronica Sawyer]

I think a LOT of information is coming in behind the scenes.

Cams that caught his drive to Florida.

Cams that caught the Labor Day Weekend "camping."

I bet many many LE are combing through this, and a lot of evidence is being gotten.

Prayers for peace and soothing of broken hearts for Gabby's family and friends. Prayers for justice for Gabby. I think her sweetness and her gumption in being so young and yet trying to do vanlife has captured America's hearts.

Good night sleuthing friends. May you also all be safe.

Cams? I thought the only “source” for this was a neighbor who did not have an exact date.

 

[whirrledpeas]

I have to disagree with this talking head. That "agreement" ends the minute it's proved that he harmed her. Many a murderer has fled in their victim's vehicle. Being engaged doesn't confer any special rights on him.

But it hasn’t been proven by a prosecutor that he did murder her. So, who owned the van as of 9/1 when it came back doesn’t matter.

And that’s the last imma say about the vehicle ownership discussion.

(I feel bad for the night mods coming in. Hugs.)

 

[Bravo]

Is it on investigation discovery? I have it set to record but it’s showing a different episode.

I hope someone can help with that. I'm in Canada. Programming may have changed with this case so high profile.

 

[captdj]

For a while I entertained the idea the BL did not tell his parents anything - just said Gabby left him, he doesn't want to talk about it, and hid in his room refusing to interact.

But now to learn they may have all gone on a trip together? What is there to do camping? You're all sitting around together... and you just secretly murdered someone?

How do you keep it together that whole time?

well its been explained this way....
look at your table....and try to explain your emotions toward a table....thats how they feel about people. They have no feelings. Hard to understand I agree

 

[Hyway]

I think that ship sailed a week ago

I don't know about that. I would see that he got a fair trial followed by a first class hanging.

 

[Barbie619]

And yet, I've read today that John Walsh said that he personally doesn't think that Brian Laundrie is suicidal. He think that the parents helped him escape somewhere.

I did say I don't believe the parents in my comment. I only imagine this is what the parent's told authorities when they called the police initially to report him missing. I just don't believe the parent's because they are not credible to my mind.

 

[ArmChairDet]

I just heard that the parents of BL and he went on a camping trip for three days. REALLY? It's very obvious to me, at least, that the parents know exactly where they dropped him off. They need to be arrested. They, IMO, staged the Mustang in the park to look like BL went for a little hike. Maybe if they are arrested and BL finds out, he will turn himself in. JMO

I don't think there is an arrest warrant for BL. There have not been any charges. I don't think they will be in a hurry to file charges, as long as they are gathering evidence.

I don't think they can hold him without charges.

 

[nhmemorymaker]

That offer of 200 bucks is very bizarre, driver declined but thought it was weird, too. I can't think of a reason he would offer that, unless she misunderstood the amount. jmo

I so agree. I have always felt this was one bizarro detail.... Van folks become communities, and share. This was too weird.

 

[afwife8405]

Well.. it kind of works like that. I've admitted myself to a local psych hospital in the past - I am diagnosed with anxiety and depression, and my first round of depression meds a few years ago made me suicidal. They took me right in, barely asked me anything. Additionally, my former roommates parents had him involuntarily committed TWICE (over age 18) with no prior diagnosis. This is all in North Carolina, but I don't think its truly that difficult, tbh. The pandemic may make it an issue, but if they say he is suicidal and he shows/says ANYTHING to the intake people like the "episodes" mentioned by the friend Rose, he's in. Plus, he is likely on his parents insurance, being 23 years old. Seems to me like it wouldn't be beneath any of them to lie, MOO.

Same. I admitted myself same day (during the pandemic) with zero issue (OCD/Panic Disorder) in February of this year in Virginia. It can definitely be done. In my experience, the shortages are mostly in getting out patient therapy, not so much with being admitted to a facility.

 

[rosesfromangels]

Agreed, if he has a history of hearing voices and can be diagnosed with schizophrenia, I think the best defense would have been a psychotic break - as soon as he got back his lawyer could have tried to make a deal with prosecutors that he will disclose where he last "remembers" seeing Gabby in exchange for them agreeing to not file murder 1 charges no matter what they find. Given the expansive ground they covered in the van, if you could show some evidence of mental illness, they may have considered it. The state/feds may have said no way but you wouldn't be any worse off since you didn't give them any information yet.

That's why it has been so perplexing to me how it shook out.

Well, perhaps they weren't given good guidance, or chose not to take it....or were in denial, or some combination of the above?

Amateur opinion and speculation

 

[DAWGmama]

My husband and I had a lively discussion tonight. He thinks GP was killed in the van and driven to the location where she was found. He also thinks BL is alive and on the run or hiding. I, however, think she was killed outside. Who would kill someone in a car, possibly leaving death evidence, then drive that car back home? And I think BL is dead, likely in/around the preserve. Hmm.

I feel like if she was dead for any amount of time in the van, that could have been discovered when LE seized it on 9/14. I'm sure they had cadaver dogs take a sniff at it just as a matter of procedure. Maybe if he were able to move her body out super fast there may not be a trace but I've always had issues with it happening in the van simply because I'm sure LE had dogs go over it. We can probably assume there definitely wasn't blood evidence found inside the van because I feel like that would have escalated the timeline much quicker. Obviously only my opinion.

 

[LAhiker]

Here's what I'm not understanding: dog lady says the van is parked at Spread Creek on the 28th, but gone by the 29th. If we believe the tiktok story about him hitchhiking late day on the 29th, then where was the van?

Also, he wanted to go to Jackson, so what difference would it make if tiktok said they were going to Jackson Hole? Jackson is in the Jackson Hole valley, isn't it?

I don't know the answer to your first question though it's possible the van was in another part of the Spread Creek camping area or somewhere else nearby.

With regard to why BL might've freaked out when hitchhiking. There were two roads going south from Colter Bay Village. One goes much closer to the Spread Creek dispersed camping area. If that indeed was him -- and I think it was -- he freaked out right where it would have been clear that they were on the road that was further from Spread Creek. He got out when they were pretty much west of Spread Creek -- he may not have wanted to pass it and go further south on that road, which was already further west than the campground.

JMO

 

[pizzaman12]

Of course. People on Twitter know better than investigators, who, you know, actually have information to work with, and do this for a living.

I read someone who essentially stated all they had to do was fly over with heat sensors and they'd be able to find him. No need for all this manpower on the ground.

Yeah, I'm sure the FBI and all supporting agencies didn't think of that

 

[Mmaaix]

I believe the same thing. He is saying the whole left a note thing was a set up after they helped him escape

This makes no sense as they said the note was from LE to remove the car or it would be towed

 

[jamicat]

I don’t think Gabby would have EVER settled for THAT SPOT as a place to “camp”. There was nothig good about it…..

According to another family looking for a spot, THAT SPOT might have been the only spot. We’ve had to settle for spots that we didn’t want for that reason

biggest puzzle for me so far is the family dynamics. one plausible explanation for the rather cold hearted treatment from brian's mom and dad to gabby's mom and dad is brian's mom and/or dad disliked gabby prior to this trip. and because of the dislike maybe brians mom & dad told brian that he and gabby had to find their own place whenever the trip ended, but brian never told gabby until maybe that last day. . perhaps that's why brian flew home and moved stuff into storage. could be when brian got home he told his mother and father that gabby was gonna fly back to new york. then when all the reports of gabby's missing status he says she was alive when he left her but she had made friends with a bunch of hippie gypsies. seems like brians mom and dad might buy that. maybe alot of parents would. it's all speculation and MOO but my main point is i have to think there was a strong dislike of gabby by one or both of brian's parents before these two even started their travel. MOO.

I got the same feeling. But it was way beyond that for those parents to callously support shunning her frantic family. Maybe he told attorney that he killed her and attorney said everything has to be shut down in terms of info and talk or cons wW would be dire. But GP lived in their house for 2 years and they knew her well before that. It’s tough to believe that it was best thing to Do