Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #48

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  • #401
I still think the car being left at the reserve was a decoy to buy more time for him to get away. I honestly do not think he is there. How do we know for sure that he actually returned back home after the camping trip with his parents ?

I've always thought that it was a decoy.
 
  • #402
Why did BL parents bother to report their son “missing” ? Couldn’t they have just not said anything?

MOO Because he communicated something to them that convinced them he was suicidal? Because the circus outside was gaining steam and they thought it would stop if they reported he wasn't in the home anymore? Because they got the all clear from the professionals they hired to get him into a 3rd world country? Because they had all the fake leads in place that would lead LE on a merry goose chase in the Reserve? Because the mother had a momentary flash of grief over the loss of GP and called LE to come clean?

Anyone want to add some more?
 
  • #403
A few days ago I mentioned that I felt terrible for the neighbors and someone was like, “whatever the neighbors WANT the protestors there! They agreed to this!!”

Somehow I knew that wasn’t true for all of them…. These people deserve the right to enjoy their homes in peace.
When I was going through chemo I wanted one thing and one thing only: peace and quiet so I could increase my chances of possibly going to sleep and getting some rest. I really feel for these neighbors. I do understand the desire to protest, but the recklessness of one young man seems to be wreaking havoc on so many, not to mention one poor soul being dead. And whether or not he did it (I know he's entitled to innocence until proven guilty), he most certainly didn't act in her best interests by driving her van back to Florida. All MOO, of course.
 
  • #404
Of course! I'm not questioning being early for an appointment. :)

Or anything else about the library time. Maybe your comment wasn't directed to me specifically, as I said I thought it was the most likely thing that they were just killing time, no ninja-level stealth communications happening.

Was just mentioning my thought in response to your post. Not calling you out at all!
 
  • #405
MOO Because he communicated something to them that convinced them he was suicidal? Because the circus outside was gaining steam and they thought it would stop if they reported he wasn't in the home anymore? Because they got the all clear from the professionals they hired to get him into a 3rd world country? Because they had all the fake leads in place that would lead LE on a merry goose chase in the Reserve? Because the mother had a momentary flash of grief over the loss of GP and called LE to come clean?

Anyone want to add some more?

How about all of the above?
 
  • #406
I felt it didn’t say much. The lows went Rock bottom when Gabby was killed but I’m thinking the friend meant they broke up. Yes, they went from being engaged to get married to breaking up and then from moving into a van together on this trip to…death and disappearance

Not that you would expect much but it was kind of vague wasn't it?
 
  • #407
This confuses me.

He's a grown adult. He can come and go as he pleases. They did not have to report him missing.

I will agree with "What would they tell the sheriff when they came!"

Yep, because if they didn't it makes them look pretty guilty, this is my own opinion, but they still look guilty.

I agree with this. Parents made the report 9/17. The FBI had already been called in by then, and that might have been the catalyst for the "report". I can envision the attorney warning/cautioning them of what that shift in dynamics (FBI intervention) could potentially mean for their exposure.

I do wonder if the FBI had never been called if they would still today not have reported him as missing.

I lean toward no. They would not have. But this is also because I also believe he was gone before the 14th and they waited until the 17th to report. And, they knew. So, this is MOO and not fact.
FBI again visits home of Gabby Petito's fiancé Brian Laundrie amid ongoing search
 
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  • #408
But, IMO, unlike a lot of cases, here we have a name, and a face, and information, and flight, and a potential family assistance dynamic, and this is why I think there is so much interest - because we know more than we do about others. And, this was not a result of media alone, it was a result of Brian himself, by his actions. MOO

I also think Gabby's dad did an incredible job of drawing attention to this case fairly early on. His plea for people to help was so heartfelt and effective, and he had natural presence at that press conference. People were becoming interested in where Brian was a few days before her dad spoke but it seemed like interest really kicked into high gear then (Sep 16?)
 
  • #409

I've been saying this to any and everyone who'd listen for weeks. Nice to see that at least one other person is also thinking along these lines!
 
  • #410
But would that not also lead to disclosing cause of death?
No because it's a determination that the manner of death is homicide, the cause of death is not for public knowledge until they see fit. Even if they know what it is and it can be seen clearly.
 
  • #411
For those of you trying to formulate ways someone might beef up Brian's financial coffers...
I'd say he's loaded right now. Time. Being human is his worst enemy, all of that pesky eating. He of the no plastics flip-flop club will eventually need. Just need...something.

Where Brian would believe nature will nurture him, a bear will have other ideas...and snakes strike when surprised. There's more to van life than believing you're invisible. There's the awful moment, when you've slipped, fallen and cut your Achilles Tendon clear through. If you're not prepared to eat a wild pig and think you can make him a snuggly friend...reread the bear info. Having done my fair share of landscaping, I know there are caterpillars who will bite. Later in the evening, your leg is five times normal size, but its not too painful, because you're delirious from the poison coursing through you like Andretti at the Indy 500. You can't put a tourniquet on that. Bacterial infections? Old Mr. "I'll wash when I'm damned ready" could find himself loaded with staph or MRSA and the dreaded blackness that comes with gangrene. Toothache? Think Tom Hanks knocking his molar out with a discarded ice skate in "Castaway."

Having become a victim of things that bring grand plans to a halt, Brian, like all of us, can expect the same...only more so in the future. The F.B.I. are experts at tracking and finding criminals international and domestic. Brian thinks himself competent for all things necessary for survival, a hunter of logical and natural solutions, but he's never been the rabbit. Never had his tailfeathers on fire and no puddle in sight. Never had a deliciously tempting bounty hanging like a millstone around his neck. What's it up to now $150K, $170K? Someone is thinking, that kind of loot could buy a few 4 wheelers, an extended cab pickup, an extended vacation in Vegas, maybe a weekend romp with a showgirl. Dead or alive is fine.

You would think his parents might be mildly interested in this world of possibility. That they would put his life to the forefront, squeeze out at least one good beg for his life and convince him all the ruckus and danger isn't worth risking over a first time bank card theft penalty.
MOO
 
  • #412
But right now all he is wanted for is bank fraud. If they know more, why have no additional charges been made?
They don’t always levy charges immediately. Maybe they don’t want to make him go deeper underground. Maybe they are just waiting for the final autopsy results (toxicology, all the bug evidence if applicable, etc) so they can issue the death certificate and then will make charges. It doesn’t matter that they haven’t made them yet. It doesn’t mean anything at all.
 
  • #413
BBM

Where has it been said it was in an unauthorized spot? The only thing I ever found was the incident report stating it was an abandoned vehicle. The address of the abandoned vehicle was the address of Myakkahatchee Creek Environmental Park. Leads me to believe it was there BEFORE Tuesday, as NPPD would hardly bother themselves to put a notice on a car that had only been parked there for 6 hours at most (Park opens at 6am, and has a gate that is locked/unlocked at open and close). Especially since the WFLA report from 9/13 in front of the house, there was no Mustang.
NPPD 'Abandoned Vehicle' report
I can't see the narrative. Maybe unauthorized was not a word used in the report? I figured unauthorized anyway, because if it were a legal spot, as you said, it wouldn't have been a violation at 2 in the afternoon, BUT you are right...if it was there since Monday it was a violation by Tuesday. The whole Mustang saga is bizarre. JMO
 
  • #414
Actually, I think he did not have a clue when he parked there, that he would be leaving without Gabby.
I 100% believe this was the case. And I guess it's because of the potential impulsiveness of it that is why I have so much trouble believing he then took off on foot for two days when the relative safety and mobility of the van was right there for his immediate escape.
 
  • #415
Nobody pays 1.5 million for a bit of embarrassment!

Its not really true that they are actually spending that much extra money. Just about everyone in on the hunt would have been getting paid anyway to do the jobs they are on the payroll to do. That aren't searching at night other than a few assets so they aren't running up a lot of overtime. Sure they have wear and tear and extra fuel costs for the equipment, but they already had the equipment. I don't think they went out and bought any expensive items for this. And they already have funds set aside for training that could be funneled to this. That $1.5 million figure, if correct, is more of a budget/accounting figure than an actual extra expensive.
 
  • #416
I am curious to see how this unfolds. It may be that after all of this is said and done, they will be the model of how to behave. Full cooperation with the LE & FBI under the supervision of an attorney and zero cooperation with the media and the public. And it may backfire utterly and completely. It is most curious. MOO.

The problem I see with this is that they have not been able to humanize themselves or Brian to the point where anyone can identify with them. The longer this has dragged on the more Gabby has been canonized and Brian has become vilified. I'd worry about some vigilante finding him before LE does. If they put themselves out there as grieving and confused as to what has happened at least a few people would have some empathy for them and Brian. Instead the entire family is publicly scorned and IMO endangered.
 
  • #417
But would that not also lead to disclosing cause of death?
I think they are hoping to question Brian before they release the autopsy report.
 
  • #418
I've always thought that it was a decoy.
It’s just very strange the extreme degree and amount of days that the FBI kept going in for really extensive, time-consuming, dangerous, and expensive searches. They’re smart enough to see the decoy angle.
 
  • #419
I believe he took her phone because 6 hours.of.working on the blog was.enough! It was probably the only way to.get her to stop!
6 hours is a.long time! They stopped having fun! Sad!
Seriously? Six hours isn’t even a full work day lol. Your use punctuation marks (particularly the exclamation marks) makes it hard to tell if you mean this sarcastically or not. Six hours is nothing, given they had been on the road a few months and she had only managed to put up ONE VIDEO. She was trying to make this her paying gig. That requires effort and time.
 
  • #420
I think they are hoping to question Brisn before they release the autopsy report.
I don't know. They either have enough evidence to arrest him for murder or they don't. If they do find B and question him, they may not get any answers at all if he has a lawyer.

I can't understand all this chasing around for the fraud charges only though.
 
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