Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #48

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  • #421
It’s just very strange the extreme degree and amount of days that the FBI kept going in for really extensive, time-consuming, dangerous, and expensive searches. They’re smart enough to see the decoy angle.

I agree. I haven't wanted to say anything because I am generally pro LE. Any thoughts anyone?
 
  • #422
For those of you trying to formulate ways someone might beef up Brian's financial coffers...
I'd say he's loaded right now. Time. Being human is his worst enemy, all of that pesky eating. He of the no plastics flip-flop club will eventually need. Just need...something.

Where Brian would believe nature will nurture him, a bear will have other ideas...and snakes strike when surprised. There's more to van life than believing you're invisible. There's the awful moment, when you've slipped, fallen and cut your Achilles Tendon clear through. If you're not prepared to eat a wild pig and think you can make him a snuggly friend...reread the bear info. Having done my fair share of landscaping, I know there are caterpillars who will bite. Later in the evening, your leg is five times normal size, but its not too painful, because you're delirious from the poison coursing through you like Andretti at the Indy 500. You can't put a tourniquet on that. Bacterial infections? Old Mr. "I'll wash when I'm damned ready" could find himself loaded with staph or MRSA and the dreaded blackness that comes with gangrene. Toothache? Think Tom Hanks knocking his molar out with a discarded ice skate in "Castaway."

Having become a victim of things that bring grand plans to a halt, Brian, like all of us, can expect the same...only more so in the future. The F.B.I. are experts at tracking and finding criminals international and domestic. Brian thinks himself competent for all things necessary for survival, a hunter of logical and natural solutions, but he's never been the rabbit. Never had his tailfeathers on fire and no puddle in sight. Never had a deliciously tempting bounty hanging like a millstone around his neck. What's it up to now $150K, $170K? Someone is thinking, that kind of loot could buy a few 4 wheelers, an extended cab pickup, an extended vacation in Vegas, maybe a weekend romp with a showgirl. Dead or alive is fine.

You would think his parents might be mildly interested in this world of possibility. That they would put his life to the forefront, squeeze out at least one good beg for his life and convince him all the ruckus and danger isn't worth risking over a first time bank card theft penalty.
MOO

Loved your post. I can't help but think his mom gave him or he took some prescription pills from the house to fall asleep forever. Easy way out for him.
 
  • #423
SO, was all this cool camping gear in that little backpack that his parents said he had on for his little day hike at the reserve? Or was there a bunch of stuff stashed in the trunk of the Mustang, that they did not see? What was he wearing? Was he a passenger in the Mustang and was dropped off somewhere near the reserve? I don't remember if they SAID that he drove the Mustang, or if they said he went in the Mustang.....which can mean that he didn't necessarily DRIVE it. Picky-picky, I know. But I'm curious. jmo ETA if he was actually dropped off...the driver would know if he retrieved a load of camping equipment from the trunk......for a long-term hiking and camping agenda.
This has nothing to do with what I wrote.
 
  • #424
I still think the car being left at the reserve was a decoy to buy more time for him to get away. I honestly do not think he is there. How do we know for sure that he actually returned back home after the camping trip with his parents ?
IMO I don’t think we do know that for sure. People have said that their neighbors, the Guthries, said in the FOX interview that they saw him. However, I went back & watched the interview, & they never actually said they saw him after his parents returned from the camping trip.
 
  • #425
Seriously? Six hours isn’t even a full work day lol. Your use punctuation marks (particularly the exclamation marks) makes it hard to tell if you mean this sarcastically or not. Six hours is nothing, given they had been on the road a few months and she had only managed to put up ONE VIDEO. She was trying to make this her paying gig. That requires effort and time.
I believe that she hadn't even uploaded that video to YouTube at the time of the LE stop. That video took a lot of work imo
 
  • #426
SO, was all this cool camping gear in that little backpack that his parents said he had on for his little day hike at the reserve? Or was there a bunch of stuff stashed in the trunk of the Mustang, that they did not see? What was he wearing? Was he a passenger in the Mustang and was dropped off somewhere near the reserve? I don't remember if they SAID that he drove the Mustang, or if they said he went in the Mustang.....which can mean that he didn't necessarily DRIVE it. Picky-picky, I know. But I'm curious. jmo ETA if he was actually dropped off...the driver would know if he retrieved a load of camping equipment from the trunk......for a long-term hiking and camping agenda.

We don’t know. Info only says he took the mustang and told parents he was going to Carlton Reserve. No description of what he was wearing was given. He might have just yelled it out and left so that a parent might just have gotten a glimpse of him with the backpack or noticed backpack missing. They may have thought he needed to go to his soothing place, as the Reservecwas a nearby wilderness trail that he frequented and not been alarmed until he did not show up. MOO as not a lot of info given here. LE would have full info as parents did file official Missing persons report and opened house to search.
 
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I still think the car being left at the reserve was a decoy to buy more time for him to get away. I honestly do not think he is there. How do we know for sure that he actually returned back home after the camping trip with his parents ?
IMO I don’t think we do know that for sure. People have said that their neighbors, the Guthries, said in the FOX interview that they saw him. However, I went back & watched the interview, & they never actually said they saw him after his parents returned from the camping trip.
 
  • #429
I felt it didn’t say much. The lows went Rock bottom when Gabby was killed but I’m thinking the friend meant they broke up. Yes, they went from being engaged to get married to breaking up and then from moving into a van together on this trip to…death and disappearance

From the article:
"A lot of speculation could be drawn from that statement. It could be a normal couple working out the kinks of growing up and transitioning into a more mature relationship. Or it could be an indicator that the two were not well-suited for a long-term relationship. Chen didn’t go into detail about what the highs and lows of the relationship were."

As yet, we dont know exactly how she was killed. We can speculate all we want. Obviously, when one partner ends up dead, something was seriously wrong. On the road, it was harder for them to separate till their emotions calmed down. In the second video released, Gabby's anxiety peaked and she burst out crying even more when LE told her they might have to separate. If they got into a fight at Spreading Creek and Brian ended up killing her, there might be circumstances only he knows. He should not have run. But, the more venom the public displays, the less chance he will get a fair trial, imo. Do I want a fair trial ....yes. I am glad I live in a country of laws.
 
  • #430
This confuses me.

He's a grown adult. He can come and go as he pleases. They did not have to report him missing.

I will agree with "What would they tell the sheriff when they came!"

Yep, because if they didn't it makes them look pretty guilty, this is my own opinion, but they still look guilty.
I'm racking my brain to come up with reasons the parents might report him missing, and there are a few that have already been discussed. But one thought is that maybe they think someone may have taken the law into their own hands? There was enough publicity at the time for that to be within the realm of possibility to someone who believes their child to be innocent.
 
  • #431
How about all of the above?

I was just making a list of possibilities just off the top of my head, but now that you said that, they could all be true simultaneously.
 
  • #432
For those of you trying to formulate ways someone might beef up Brian's financial coffers...
I'd say he's loaded right now....
I agree. Speculation and MOO, between the 1K and any additional cash that may have been taken out for the camper purchase that happened contemporaneously during this period, he could have some serious coin. Though I can't imagine it helping him too much since his face is plastered everywhere unless he has found someone to aid him, and is able to use the cash to pay that person for their efforts. MOO
 
  • #433
But would that not also lead to disclosing cause of death?

The ME has to rule in or out all possibilities before disclosing cause of death. Evidence was obvious enough that he could rule Gabby died by homicide but as to exactly what caused her death, the ME has to rule out things that are not obvious before deciding what the evidence shows was the exact cause of death.
 
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FBI Denver on Twitter
Teton County Coroner Dr. Brent Blue confirmed the remains are those of Gabrielle Venora Petito, date of birth March 19, 1999. Coroner Blue’s initial determination for the manner of death is homicide. The cause of death remains pending final autopsy results.

2:03 PM · Sep 21, 2021·Hootsuite Inc.
Thank you. I note that it states 'initial determination'. Can this be changed pending further results?
ETA - I had totally forgotten that the body had been in the open for quite some time (almost three weeks). It could not have been an easy task.
 
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I agree. I haven't wanted to say anything because I am generally pro LE. Any thoughts anyone?
If I remember correctly the FBI took over the CASE but it was local LE resources that were carrying out the search of the nature preserve.
IMHO I think continuing that swamp search was a decoy by LE. Keep BL thinking they are focusing on the wrong place, and BL might feel a little safer to move about in his real hiding place.
MOO
 
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I agree. I haven't wanted to say anything because I am generally pro LE. Any thoughts anyone?
What other posters kept telling me on the days I would ask about this, is that the FBI knew what they were doing, this wasn’t their first rodeo, and that although they weren’t disclosing it publicly, there had to be some evidence that Laundrie was or had been there, dead or alive.
 
  • #438
I don’t know about all of you, but I’m getting a little tired of all the SM posts that say something like, “OMG, my cousin’s friend’s nephew’s BFF talked to BL on the Appalachian Trail last night and we’re totally sure it was definitely him and we’re freaked. ” C’mon people.
 
  • #439
Yep, because if they didn't it makes them look pretty guilty, this is my own opinion, but they still look guilty.

You think that the Laundries would have hired an effective spokesperson for the family. Even if no significant facts were provided, they could say things that might encourage more of a sympathetic public opinion towards the family.

Someone should be out there saying “Sincere condolences to the Petito family. The family loved Gabby and is devastated by the loss. We wanted to see their trip successful and their dreams fulfilled as they began their young lives together. The family is crushed. They want him home. He’s always been such a good boy. It’s tragic. The family is struggling to understand what happened. Blah, blah, blah.” It’s just common sense!

Look at suspects with long criminal records where good PR has made them into public opinion angles.

So far, they appear to be seriously guilty in terms of public opinion, which will hurt BL if and when he finally goes to trial, despite all court efforts to find an impartial jury. We have recently seen other cases in the national spotlight where public opinion could very well have effected legal verdicts.

(All MOO)
 
  • #440
If I remember correctly the FBI took over the CASE but it was local LE resources that were carrying out the search of the nature preserve.
IMHO I think continuing that swamp search was a decoy by LE. Keep BL thinking they are focusing on the wrong place, and BL might feel a little safer to move about in his real hiding place.
MOO
Could be! I also think they may have also been looking for evidence? Possibly GP's phone?
 
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