Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #48

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  • #501
Yeah, and too bad for that poor guy undergoing chemo who just wants some rest right? Should he go thank BL’s parents for this? Are you serious right now?

Like who cares about the neighbors who may need peace, forget their small kids who might be scared and confused, don’t worry about their animals who are barking all day long. They can stand there and protest without screaming into bullhorns from sunup until sundown. Finding BL isn’t the most important thing in their lives, and they shouldn’t be punished because his parents are hiding. This protesting hasn’t worked yet and IMO won’t at all.

moo.
In addition, it brings out the crazies and that puts everyone in the neighbourhood at risk. Does a persons right to express themselves overide the rights of the neighbours to have a peaceful existence?
 
  • #502
Gabby’s father Joseph Petito on Twitter:
She is already saving lives. So many stories being sent to us about relationships being left with proper planning for safety, and people are being found due to her influence. We have much more work to do, but it’s a start. #gabbypetito #justiceforgabby
 
  • #503
MOO, they initially could not prove he didn't take it without her permission, but after she was located, IMO, you have a valid point there. Though they may have thought it wasn't worth the fight since the atty would probably still raise it. They don't want charges to be thrown out. Benefit of adding the charge would be minimal compared to potentially having it challenged so they went with a charge that was a lock. MOO, IMO is my guess.

I think it will be included in the litany of future charges against him once he's in custody. IMO.
 
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I've been saying this to any and everyone who'd listen for weeks. Nice to see that at least one other person is also thinking along these lines!

It makes the most sense. He can live in a foreign county under an assumed name not have to live off bugs in a swamp.
 
  • #506
Yes, someone has estimated that have accounted for that much money being spent on the hunt. I didn't say that they didn't. What I said is that most of that will be in salaries that are already going to people on the payroll. Its not like who ever makes the decision on the search parameters is hiring extra raw recruits off the street to go search. They are using people who would have been working somewhere else that day if not for stomping around in the muck. The guy in that article who estimating the cost said that most of the cost would be in salaries. And I pointed out that they were knocking off most days at normal closing time so very few people wer piling up days of overtime.
the other consideration is that if people of working on this, something else is lacking that particular resource.
 
  • #507
Tons of specialized equipment and professional teams to search that dangerous swamp!

True, but they already had that equipment and the specialized teams were already on the payroll. Did they buy any new equipment? And yes they spent fuel and such that they might not have otherwise. And probably paid private companies like Verizon for the use of their mobile van and other things. But the vast majority of the money spent will have been on salaries. Some agencies office budget will show increased costs while some other agencies office budget will show decreased costs to balance the exchange.
 
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SEP 22, 2021
Brian Laundrie: Why isn't there an arrest warrant for Gabby Petitio's murder? ABC News Chief Legal Analyst Dan Abrams explains - ABC7 San Francisco (abc7news.com)
[...]

"What does it mean that there was no ruling on the cause of death?" Stephanopoulos asked Abrams.

"It just means that they want to take a few more minutes. 'Homicide' means death at the hands of another. She was murdered. Period. Now the question is going to be what exactly was the cause, again, they just want to dot the I's and cross the T's on this so if and when there's a trial they don't say, 'Well, you know you initially said that it was this and you slightly changed it when you had more evidence.' I think they just want to get everything in order. I don't think that particular issue is that particularly relevant right now, the most important issue is finding Brian Laundrie," Abrams said.
 
  • #510
Why does BL walk duck-footed? Is something wrong with his legs that perhaps wasn’t corrected when he was very young? Disability? Does he have a permanent limp too? People can watch for that in tracks/woods or just in general. It’s a ver big tell!
 
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In addition, it brings out the crazies and that puts everyone in the neighbourhood at risk. Does a persons right to express themselves overide the rights of the neighbours to have a peaceful existence?

That's the thing about free speech. Once it's brought into question it's a very slippery slope. IMO.
 
  • #512
the other consideration is that if people of working on this, something else is lacking that particular resource.

That is true and I have discussed that with people at other times, but felt it would just make this discussion cloudier. Somebody not involved with the search might be doing overtime to cover for peeps that are busing washing leaches from their bodies.
 
  • #513
But would that not also lead to disclosing cause of death?

In most jurisdictions in the US, a coroner's report includes two main headings:

Manner of death (natural causes, suicide, homicide, accident, unknown)
Cause of death (cancer, asphyxiation, gunshot, blunt force trauma, automobile collision, sharp force trauma)

We know the manner of death for Gabby (homicide).
But not the cause (which can be a numbered list, usually in the order of which was most fatal; sometimes coroners can't tell exactly which wound was the fatal one, and it will say that somewhere in the report).
 
  • #514
IMO, it's a mute point. The FBI said they have been unwilling to cooperate. I don't think they have told them anything other than BL is missing. Not saying and telling lies are two completely different things. Short of a recorded conversation, I'm not sure how anyone would prove They lied about the Reserve.
Do you have a source that shows they have been unwilling to cooperate with the FBI? Super curious. I may have missed this, and given the theories out there, if it has been stated that they are, in FACT, not cooperating...I would like to read that statement.
 
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Yes, I get all of this - but why not just come straight out with it and issue an arrest warrant for murder? I get that this maybe some sort of 'strategy' - but either they have the evidence that points to B as the killer, or they don't. And seeing as B is still a POI and the only arrest warrant is for fraud, I am guessing they are missing a piece of the jigsaw.

I am sure some savvy defence attorney would come up with a way to play this manhunt for fraud charges as prejudicial in any forthcoming murder trial. Or is that not a thing in the US?

Maybe to not chase him farther off the beaten path.
 
  • #517
Thank you. I note that it states 'initial determination'. Can this be changed pending further results?

Yes it can be changed if they find she died of something else.
 
  • #518
But would that not also lead to disclosing cause of death?

P.S.

There has been no disclosure of anything having to do with cause of death - coroner says it's waiting to complete the report; typically a full toxicology panel is run on every homicide victim, and sometimes follow-up labs are needed...it can easily be a month...and it can be kept sealed during an investigation).

(In case no one else has answered).

That's what we're waiting for as the next big news in this case (except for the capture of BL, if that ever happens).
 
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JMO...This makes me think of the thing that's said , only 2 people know the truth and one of them is dead. Unfortunately, and I would hate if this happened, (but i can see it), BL could throw GP under the bus in his own defense, making himself the victim (flashback to Moab), or he could plea and avoid the whole circus and we will never know the truth.
IMO i think jury selection or anything like a trial will be difficult due to the publicity. But i'm not a lawyer, Just watch too much Ally McBeal. ;)

I don't know if it would be possible for a jury of 12 to see BL as a victim. But of course they could try. What a delicate balance it would have to be for the defense to see a picture or video of Gabby against a defendant like BL who ran away from Wyoming after his girlfriends homicide. The jury could start hating BL. if he defense starts playing those sort of games against the real victim, Gabby.
 
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