Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #51

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  • #421
This is all IMO but I have questions lol. The operator never clarified with him on the mix up with the last name in the beginning of the call…why?
IMO I find this guy to be somewhat credible because you could assume he’s not following the case super closely (mix up with the last name), but felt confident enough in the guys appearance, plus the way he was acting, to call it in to 911. That is just my opinion on that.

I still don’t understand why the operator didn’t ask for some clarification. & IMO you can tell at the end of the call he is expecting them to have a bit more urgency about it. All JMO.
Yes, I think he said his name was Brian Lauer, but the operator seemed to know who he was referring to.

If it were Brian, I think he would have referred to Gabby as his fiance, like he did when talking to the police. Imo
 
  • #422
Brian Laundrie 'extremely likely' to get more charges

Additional criminal charges against Florida fugitive Brian Laundrie are “extremely likely” in the death of Gabby Petito — if he’s found alive, a Sunshine State prosecutor says.

“That’s coming,” said David Aronberg, the state attorney for Palm Beach County, adding that Laundrie’s decision to flee will also hurt his case if he’s ever caught and charged.

“At trial, his flight can come back to haunt him because the prosecutors can point to that,” Aronberg said during a recent interview with News Nation Now.

“In fact, it’s even in some jury instructions that says that if you flee that is consciousness of guilt and juries hate it when you flee,” he said.
 
  • #423
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Here is the full 911 call from Appalachian Trail hiker Dennis Davis.
He says he saw Brian Laundrie in a pickup truck along the trail in North Carolina.
https://twitter.com/brianentin/status/1445090686169190406?s=21
So I just listened and thank you for posting it

Couple of things. Why didn’t DD stop and make his report if it was so important? Also driving a newer pickup truck? Going to California!
Can you imagine how many calls and tips they get?
Good hunting for the local Bounty Hunters!
 
  • #424
Just my opinion...........................this DD report has taken over the thread. I believe the guy is telling the truth, but that he is mistaken. outta here, for a while. jmo
 
  • #425
Finally got to a place where I could listen to this. He makes for an even less credible witness having gotten BL's last name wrong. That's pretty strange since he said he just Googled him. Hmmm

I 100% agree with you.
 
  • #426
Thanks for this
Now I get why people are on the fence about it. This is not the emphatic message I'd expect from someone who just talked with BL, knowing he's wanted.
Davis tells the dispatcher "I'm on the highway right now," and then "I ran into Brian Lower (sp) 'just awhile ago'", then gives what he seems to think is a specific location to the dispatcher of seeing BL - 'awhile ago'. She needs more specific information but he doesn't provide any. Maybe he's in shock at having a BL sighting? Perhaps he's not appreciating the urgency of the situation? He clearly understands BL is wanted, so it's a shame he waited to call 911 until he had talked with BL, drove, pulled into a parking lot, parked, looked up BL, drove off, got on the highway, heading toward a tunnel. Where he then wasn't always audible. Even though he's "99.9% sure" it was BL. Without more info for the dispatcher - specific time, road marker, distinctive truck feature other than "newer" -- or anything else. Should the dispatcher have asked more questions? Maybe, although she did try. If he really did see BL it seems like a painfully missed opportunity to close in!
 
  • #427
Someone taught me this in my beginning time here too. On the quote, if you hit the arrow on the left by the poster's name it will take you to the quoted post and you can then see what it is in reference to.
But the poster quoted it without that. I was asking the poster where s/he pulled the quote from (thread and page). It's no big deal now. But thank you!
 
  • #428
Goofball because he didn't recognize him, he gets his name wrong, he gets the name of road he is on wrong, etc. etc. and it just wasn't Dennis Davis' time.

I thought it was interesting that though he got BL's name wrong -- called him Brian Lauer -- it seemed like both DD and the 911 operator knew who he was talking about. And that's probably why she didn't feel the need to clarify the name.

JMO
 
  • #429
People will be misguided by his opinion, but not by mind.

Given the information we have access to, his opinion is no more misguided than anyone else's. You disagree with him, as is your right... but he is not necessarily incorrect.
 
  • #430
This is all IMO but I have questions lol. The operator never clarified with him on the mix up with the last name in the beginning of the call…why?
IMO I find this guy to be somewhat credible because you could assume he’s not following the case super closely (mix up with the last name), but felt confident enough in the guys appearance, plus the way he was acting, to call it in to 911. That is just my opinion on that.

I still don’t understand why the operator didn’t ask for some clarification. & IMO you can tell at the end of the call he is expecting them to have a bit more urgency about it. All JMO.

Another user here made a great point - he JUST googled the guy and still messed up his name? It's not like it's a hard last name. Just food for thought.
 
  • #431
Just my opinion...........................this DD report has taken over the thread. I believe the guy is telling the truth, but that he is mistaken. outta here, for a while. jmo
Yeah, I'm sure there are many men that look similar to Brian. He said LE didn't call him back, which they normally would if they want more details. They may have reason to believe that he is nowhere near that vicinity. Imo
 
  • #432
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So I just listened and thank you for posting it

Couple of things. Why didn’t DD stop and make his report if it was so important? Also driving a newer pickup truck? Going to California!
Can you imagine how many calls and tips they get?
Good hunting for the local Bounty Hunters!
There are going to be so many calls like this, as there are countless people in the United States who bear at least a passing resemblance to this guy.

What a nightmare.
 
  • #433
Interesting. If BL is indeed the killer and he fits within this pattern, he may have been thinking of homicide as a solution, instead of just committing it by accident in a moment of escalating passion or rage.
I tried to make this point earlier in this thread, abusers don’t lack control they are fully in control of their actions, they make the choice to harm others it’s not on a spur of the moment or red mist for example. BL might not be an abuser and may suffer with mental health (all speculation) which would make him potentially unaware of what he did. I just found the 8 stages in the article seemed to fit what we know from the timeline IMO
 
  • #434
Given the information we have access to, his opinion is no more misguided than anyone else's. You disagree with him, as is your right... but he is not necessarily incorrect.

If you lived in the Appalachian mountains (or where you believe BL is hiding) and a former FBI told you he is not armed and dangerous - first of all he doesn't know that. He can't say that. He isn't involved in the case.

Second, I didn't say I know it, I said I believe it. So his position, his certainty about the matter could lead to harm to the general public. Hope you can see the difference between his sharing his certainty to the general public and me sharing my opinion on Websleuths.
 
  • #435
Thanks for this
Now I get why people are on the fence about it. This is not the emphatic message I'd expect from someone who just talked with BL, knowing he's wanted.
Davis tells the dispatcher "I'm on the highway right now," and then "I ran into Brian Lower (sp) 'just awhile ago'", then gives what he seems to think is a specific location to the dispatcher of seeing BL - 'awhile ago'. She needs more specific information but he doesn't provide any. Maybe he's in shock at having a BL sighting? Perhaps he's not appreciating the urgency of the situation? He clearly understands BL is wanted, so it's a shame he waited to call 911 until he had talked with BL, drove, pulled into a parking lot, parked, looked up BL, drove off, got on the highway, heading toward a tunnel. Where he then wasn't always audible. Even though he's "99.9% sure" it was BL. Without more info for the dispatcher - specific time, road marker, distinctive truck feature other than "newer" -- or anything else. Should the dispatcher have asked more questions? Maybe, although she did try. If he really did see BL it seems like a painfully missed opportunity to close in!

As I understand it, DD made several calls to authorities. He called the FBI and 911 separately in both Tennessee and North Carolina. I don't know which of the calls this was, but the circumstances of the call and time of night might've affected what he said. He was clearer in his interview with Fox News -- maybe he was less shook up by then.

JMO
 
  • #436
Former means armchair detective; he doesn't know anything. If the FBI knew that they would know where BL is.
Agree. With respect to the former agent, i think BL is very dangerous. He's seemingly unstable, and being hunted. That makes him dangerous.

Amateur opinion and speculation
 
  • #437
Can any one of us say we haven't seen BL since he disappeared? I've seen him numerous times. Or some guy that looks just like him.
 
  • #438
For longtime Websleuthers, what is the typical arc for a case like this? Of course in the beginning there's a ridiculous amount of interest often furthered by the evidence, a better understanding of the timeline, interviews conducted with people close to the case, etc. But there must come a time when new information stops coming in, the amount of visible media attention dwindles, and updates from LE become less frequent, etc. When do you begin focusing on other cases even though the one you have been so wrapped up in still remains unsolved?

I think the only way FBI keeps media soooo involved is to keep leaking information that wont hurt the prosecution....imo.
 
  • #439
I posed a question back on page 9 of this thread #51, but I don’t think it was ever answered because the thread is moving so fast.

QUESTION:
Has LE ever searched Brian’s sister CL’s house to see whether he’s hiding there? Have they questioned CL? What if BL’s been holed up at her place this entire time? It’s been confirmed that CL met up with her parents and BL at the Fort DeSoto campground on Sept 6-7th, right? BL could have left that campground with CL in her car, then the parents could have staged the diversion a few days later involving the Mustang at the Carlton Reserve and planted a few of his items out in the swamp to make it look like he went in there & committed suicide. MOO

Is anyone watching CL’s house or scanning it with a thermal scanner?
They would need permission or a search warrant. Also, her children would need to be in on the secret and not disclose that Brian is in their home.
 
  • #440
Do you have examples with a source you can link of cases where someone has been named a POI in a missing persons case, has a federal warrant out for their arrest and they knew where they were?

I think you're misunderstanding what I'm saying
 
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