Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #66

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  • #781
While we wait for news, I thought y'all might be interested in the discussion by this guy who teaches human tracking to LE and SAR.
I can't remember exactly, but didn't LE remove shoes from BL's house? Pardon me if I misremembered. Anyway, that's the first topic in this interview. And I thought it was fascinating to hear what LE does to keep their own footprints differentiated from the person they're tracking.
I'll bet some of this has to be going on in the swamp parks.
Search and Rescue Tracking
Seeing how some S&R teams do things is quite informative and sometimes quite different from one team to another.
 
  • #782
It must take a lot of anger, hate, and raw rage. He must have heard and felt the life going out of her like air slowly going out of a balloon and her body going limp...but he did not stop.
Murder in the 1st degree -- nothing less.
The way you worded that made me cringe and want even more for BL to be found alive so he can suffer in a small box for life.
 
  • #783
I have never seen The Dyrt before, thanks for link. Gabby & Brian V.? Where does the V come from? Also it says they’re from CO?

Earlier threads said the V is for Vanlife.
 
  • #784
I’ll bet he went along I80, I’m thinking south from Jackson, and not Moran (which is a pain in the butt IMO). I-80 would go all the way to where they caught him using GP’s credit cards.
I did I-80 kinda recently. There are Walmarts right at some exits—great place to take a little snooze. From LE’s point of view, Walmart would be very helpful, since they have cameras everywhere. They also prolly have sophisticated search functions that can automate a search for a white van. Maybe even facial recognition software. They get date parameters and boom!
There is software that exists to search multiple videos at once for a certain thing/person. The feds definitely have this capability. IF the videos exist and IF they could get them together is a different problem.
After so long the videos may not exist anymore; have been "recorded" over or deleted
 
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Yes, but that is not either of their last initials, so it’s not accurate info. People using that app value their privacy and usually don’t put their real information on there. They will use a random initial, put a wrong state for home, put the wrong dates for their visit.

Dunno, people do all kinds of things. My point is that they had the same capital letter in common in their names. Seems like a conscious choice IMO.
 
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Since Gabby was always documenting their trip, I hope she took lots of pictures/videos when they were camped at Spread Creek.
 
  • #789
Dunno, people do all kinds of things. My point is that they had the same capital letter in common in their names. Seems like a conscious choice IMO.
Only if it has been verified as theirs. Has it?
 
  • #790
Thanks for the link.

Yes, I linked to that tweet earlier, but SB says "to my knowledge" which seems like guesswork (on his part) since I'm assuming he has no access to bank records, etc. And of course and IMO, he's trying to paint this picture of the two of them sharing everything - if and when the day ever comes when he has to defend him on bank fraud charges.

MOO.

Maybe BL told the lawyer that they shared the account and they both put their money into it and treated it as a joint account. Apparently, it was not a joint account since he has a warrant for fraud related to using the debit card for two of Gabby's accounts, probably a checking & savings account.
 
  • #791
Have they caught him?
 
  • #792
Just thinking out loud, let’s say BL thought GP’s body wouldn’t be found for ages or ever, he drove home and has the epiphany if I use her cards on the journey home it leaves a trail, e.g she came home with me but we broke up I’ve not seen her since, I assumed she went back to her parents (cctv gone by the time he expects her to be found) could do this with the phone and then just dispose of the phone (maybe bike ride with mum), he could also maybe forge her signature and get the van in his name or say she said she would get it at some point as she doesn’t like driving it. JMO and thinking out loud.

Surely he knew that videos taken when he stopped for gas would show that he was the person using cards and in many cases would show exactly who was in the vehicle. I suppose he could claim she was in the back but that wouldn’t be realistic for such a long trip.

It will be interesting to see exactly how much surveillance they have from the trip home.

jmo
 
  • #793
Since Gabby was always documenting their trip, I hope she took lots of pictures/videos when they were camped at Spread Creek.
He probably destroyed her work and her phone as well. Heart breaking for her family.
 
  • #794
It’s the end of another day, and since it is late, we’ll close the door on this thread until morning. But those who are still awake can use this time to catch up on all the posts from today. Good night sleuths!
 
  • #795
Happy Saturday Sleuths,

The thread is now
OPEN. Another day in hopes that LE and the Friends and Family of Gabby are getting closer to answers. May LE find the evidence needed to bring them closer to locating Brian.

Reminder:
Mods/Admins are not online 24/7. Your patience in giving us time to resolve issues in thread is greatly appreciated!

Have a Super Saturday,
Tiff
 
  • #796
I’ve been mulling over BL’s hike to Colter Bay. If I’m going to consider the theory that he killed GP before his hike, and that his hike/hitchhiking was a plan to set an alibi for himself, then I would think Aug. 28th is just as likely a date of death as the 27th. If anything, the 28th makes more sense because BL saying he had been camping for two nights would have put him being gone the day before she actually died, rather than the same day (if she had died the 27th), which would not cover him as well.

Others have suggested 8/28 as a possibility. For example:
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From @Skigirl

WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #58

* Gabby was wearing a sweatshirt when she died, so it may have happened on the evening. In this scenario, that would be the evening of 8/28.

WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #62

I posted a hiking route yesterday or the day before that could have gotten him there entirely on foot. 17 miles, 300-400 feet of elevation gain (in other words not much). Just a short section of road, otherwise an old wagon route. Someone fit like him could do it in about 6 hours. The route goes right from the end of the road into Colter Bay Village.
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It’s a day hike for BL. He could have even killed GP the morning of the 29th and still made that hike.

Maybe the date of death isn’t important to everyone, but to me, determining if BL went hiking and/or tried to make an alibi for himself after he killed GP is so very different than killing her and immediately fleeing back home. It suggests how he functions, which imo, might hint at what he did when he disappeared from his parents’ house on 9/13. jmo
 
  • #797
But even if Laundrie isn't found any time soon, experts told CNN that the case is likely years away from going cold.

"As far as this being a cold case... typically people will accept three to five years with absolutely no new leads, no new evidence, no new nothing (until it goes cold), and that is so far from where we are," said Sheryl McCollum, director of the nonprofit Cold Case Investigative Research Institute. "That's not the case here at all."

" ... where they may believe there's been a sighting, they will typically for years have that person at the forefront of their minds"

While active search efforts may not look the same in the coming months or years if Laundrie isn't found, there will likely be investigators assigned to the case that will continue to work on it, according to Belli.

Brian Laundrie: What happens if he isn't found in the coming weeks - CNN
 
  • #798
Only if it has been verified as theirs. Has it?

The DeSoto campground review posted (in July) by the same account has pictures of Gabby on the beach. Looks like it's them, IMO.
 
  • #799
I’ve been mulling over BL’s hike to Colter Bay. If I’m going to consider the theory that he killed GP before his hike, and that his hike/hitchhiking was a plan to set an alibi for himself, then I would think Aug. 28th is just as likely a date of death as the 27th. If anything, the 28th makes more sense because BL saying he had been camping for two nights would have put him being gone the day before she actually died, rather than the same day (if she had died the 27th), which would not cover him as well.

Others have suggested 8/28 as a possibility. For example:
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From @Skigirl

WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #58

* Gabby was wearing a sweatshirt when she died, so it may have happened on the evening. In this scenario, that would be the evening of 8/28.

WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #62

I posted a hiking route yesterday or the day before that could have gotten him there entirely on foot. 17 miles, 300-400 feet of elevation gain (in other words not much). Just a short section of road, otherwise an old wagon route. Someone fit like him could do it in about 6 hours. The route goes right from the end of the road into Colter Bay Village.
______________________________________

It’s a day hike for BL. He could have even killed GP the morning of the 29th and still made that hike.

Maybe the date of death isn’t important to everyone, but to me, determining if BL went hiking and/or tried to make an alibi for himself after he killed GP is so very different than killing her and immediately fleeing back home. It suggests how he functions, which imo, might hint at what he did when he disappeared from his parents’ house on 9/13. jmo

Good logic here. I agree with your thinking.
 
  • #800
Question for folks more experienced than I am:
When her time of death is listed as approximately between 3 and 4 weeks from the date that she was found, does that cover the possibility of ALL of the 4th week, as the starting point and ALL of the 3rd week as an approximate end point?

For example:
The entire 4th week is August 22-28th
The entire 3rd week is August 29-September 4th.

Do we know? Are those dates spans possible?

Thanks much!
 
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