Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #9

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There is another possibility. I just can't believe that the police "lost track" of B.L.

The public is very angry. It would not be unusual if B.L. or his family have received threats. If the FBI determines that these threats pose a danger to B.L. or
his family, they could have moved B.L. to a safer location. Therefore the police and the family are telling the truth at not knowing where he is. Watch to see if the family leaves or there is a noticeable police presence outside home.

Just a thought.
They could have done this without filing him missing. No one has seen him at the house so there was no need to pull some smoke and mirrors illusion to move him. Plus, people get threats all the time and the police do nothing. There’s no way LE are putting him in a safe house while he hinders their investigation to find Gabby. MOO
 
  • #383
Assuming the merchant in Idaho can be confirmed, and the TicToker, here's where we are:

8/24: Gabby checks out of Fairfield Inn and Suites
8/25 0r 8/26: Owner of Rustic Row in Idaho says Petito and Laundrie spent about 15 to 20 minutes in the store.
8/29: Laundrie alone. Hitchhiking. No vehicle. Babbling about his fiancé and video editing and Snake River. Picked up Colter Bay, Grand Teton.

If accurate it puts the focus between 8/25-8/26 and 8/28-8/29. A 3-4 day period max.

Where they were during this period could be the whole key.
@oviedo...timeline.
 
  • #384
So a guy is on the loose in Florida wearing a backpack, maybe a mask with sunglasses and based on previous behavior, barefoot as well? To ver
So a guy is on the loose in Florida wearing a backpack, maybe a mask with sunglasses and based on previous behavior, barefoot as well? To verify it’s BL offer him a bottle of water. If he says no because he’s trying to save the planet, call police.

ify it’s BL offer him a bottle of water. If he says no because he’s trying to save the planet, call police.
Exactly....and I noticed he is drinking from a plastic bottle on an Instagram post with his nephews. BL makes no sense and has an inflated opinion of himself.
 
  • #385
No way! Did you see all those people in his yard?

Brian Entin showed a TV news reporter the Alley to the side of their home showing around it, in this link. It’s a grey gate that leads to other houses behind etc!

https://twitter.com/brianentin/status/1439062400477585410?s=21

Also I spotted this on his IG account, they look the same pants IMO

https://www.instagram.com/p/CC1_1DzFQuf/?utm_medium=copy_link


But apart of me agrees, seems way too calculated for this to be true, with all the news reporters and gatherings. Just so weird the sandals and the pants and sunglasses, bold head, and beard too. But thanks for your thoughts on it!
It’s kindly appreciated.
 
  • #386
Have the Petito's said he is a family friend? Because as far as I know, JLR is a whack job who is not only an ex-con, but is infamous for inserting himself in missing person cases. Some posters here may remember him from the Watts case, but that was not his first. MOO

Jonathan Lee Riches - Wikipedia
He inserts himself in many famous (or infamous) cases with fraudulent identities. He claimed to be the Sandy Hook killer's uncle. He was not.
 
  • #387
Lol, you're right. I got my hopes up tonight, thinking that the family had finally decided to come clean about what they knew. As it turned out however, this was completely self serving.

I'm sure law enforcement will expand their presence in that neighborhood, but it won't quiet the mob. This is going to be one wild weekend.

Here comes the circus.

And the fact that it is the weekend and more people off work... Watch out. I might have to go buy more popcorn.
 
  • #388
I think BL is a suicide, and I think GP is deceased in GTNP or YNP (less likely). I think GTNP and YNP Law Enforcement have cctv at all park entrances (which I think will confirm when GP and BL came in and when they went out. I happen to think they may have entered GTNP twice (and might have even been coming down from YNP just before BL supposedly began his three day hike along the Snake River which ended with the alibi-building hitchhike ride to Jackson Dam.

I still think it will be key if they can prove that BL sent a text on GP’s phone on the 30th (on the way to FL) because I think GTNP LE already knows that GP was not a passenger (up front, anyway) in that van when it left the park.

It appears that at this time, GTNP LE thinks GP may be found in the area between Jenny Lake and Colter Bay. I think anywhere between Jackson Hole and Colter Bay. If they made a brief trip west and/or up to YNP, there are also places up in Yellowstone where LE may never find a trace. I guess any possible YNP trip would be based in the veracity of the Victor and Ashland sitings, and even then, it could’ve just been a short excursion out of the park

I think BL told his parents a partially true story about how he and GP had split up, and that he was flying home early to begin to put her things into storage. Then he flew back (possibly this time at GP’s request - that’s how codependent their relationship was - to drive her from SLC to GTNP and then on up to Yellowstone so she could then meet and continue the trip with her friend from NY. At that point, BL was to take the van back to FL. That was the plan - but something went wrong after the Jenny Lake lot. And this (again) is all speculation

I truly think BL’s parents bought the story he concocted. They had no reason not to. Plus, BL may not have known what he was going to do until he did it. This was probably not premeditated.

Only after 9/10 and 9/11 did things start to heat up - they became so hot that the parents now started to wonder about BL and the story.. but as soon as they did so, BL was gone. The parents were now simply confused. He was still their son. They didn’t know anything other than what he had told them

Plus, did anybody ever actually ask if BL was ever inside the house after the 11th? I don’t fault LE. BL was gone quick (I think w/in two days of when the missing persons report was filed). And I don’t blame the parents, other than they may have raised a son with low self esteem and an all-engrossing fear of abandonment.

It may sound illogical, but a terrified insecure person like that might contemplate taking their partner’s life in order to keep that partner from “abandoning” THEM. Abandonment’s message (especially between two people who are codependent), once again, is: you’re not good enough, you’re not worthy of my love, and you never will be. I therefore am leaving you, alone.
 
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IMO, all that has happened is because people trusted him. He was just an ordinary guy, no priors, polite, etc. We don't treat ordinary 23 year olds as potential murderers.

Gabby trusted him, her family trusted him, police in Moab trusted him, I bet his parents did too, and Florida police trusted his parents.

Something happened with Gabby and now, he can't be trusted. It just takes time for people to accept they've been betrayed by someone they once trusted.

JMO.

Very well said. The only thing I’d add…and it’s just because I can hear Liam Nesson saying in my head right now….a line from Batman Begins:

“Crime cannot be tolerated. Criminals thrive on the indulgence of society's understanding.”
 
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That will be good so they can at least put a tail on him. But what else can they do if they still haven't charged him with anything.

Reporting him missing could have been a strategy employed by the attorney out of guilt, or even the parents whose conscience may be starting to bother them. Once he's reported missing, this opens the door for law enforcement to start looking for evidence to locate Brian without a warrant (social media, phone records, etc) and without the parents having to state they think he's guilty or indicating they knew he was guilty from the beginning. It basically opens the door for them to cooperate without openly saying they support the criminal side of the investigation, then to change their stance and be supportive once something is "found", if that makes any sense.

While the legality of using evidence found during the missing person search may or may not be fully admissible in Gabby's case, accessing Brian's phone and social media could give them a lot of insight about Gabby's whereabouts or where to look for more evidence.

MOO OMO or whatever we're currently using to indicate speculation
 
  • #391
It's 10:40PM here and I hope tomorrow really brings in some breakthroughs.

I feel saddened. I thought that when the police were entering BL's home, we are going to get some information. But all we got is a missing BL news which just deflated all hopes.
I hope the LE got some info from them.

I personally feel the day he was hitchhiking, it was an attempt to abandon her (alive or not) with the van. But hitchhiking would have been hard for such a long distance since he would have to small talk. Also offering 200$ won't really make anyone go to FL. He would have to go in various vans/trucks/cars to make the trip. So he decided to take the van with himself instead. So the snake river banks might be close to the location where she was abandoned. This is assuming that that tip is accurate. Would that place (snake river banks) where he claimed his fiance was, would it have Mobile data for her to work on her social media?
 
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I think any accessories are the "after the fact," variety. I also think they're close to home.
Misread sorry. Yes. I agree. Hard to shake, right?
 
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Joe Petito talks about the search for Gabby 9/17/21

A father's plea to help find his daughter Gabby Petito. Joe Petito shares his thoughts on the matter. His thoughts are his and his alone.
 
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I don't think he'll take himself out. At least not until she's found, and with damning evidence. Just a hunch, I see him as a coward.
 
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Brian Entin, a reporter, works with Ashleigh Banfield. The video included is a report from him to her. And it's very interesting.

The reporter states that the FBI did take things from the home and from the Mustang in the driveway.
 
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If he was armed and a POI, would LE have to release that info for public safety?

What kills me is GP lived in BL’s parents house. How can they just stand by and not at least try to help? I know their son obviously is more important to them but geez. I can’t imagine turning my back on her like that.
 
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Attorney Says Fiancé Brian Laundrie Missing as Search for Gabby Petito Continues – NBC Chicago
The police conversation on Friday marked the first time that any member of the Laundrie family who has been in contact with Brian has agreed to talk with officers involved in the investigation into Petito's disappearance. Garrison said he believes they have at least some information that could help in the investigation.

"Gabby lived in that house too, in North Port. So if Brian returned without Gabby, you would think people would be asking: 'Where is Gabby at?' There had to be some type of conversation or dialogue with the parents and other family member," Garrison speculated. "I'm a reasonable person, but I would believe that, yes, they do know something."

Gabby lived in that house until BL flew to FL from SLC and moved her stuff into storage. After that, probably unbeknownst to her, she was a full time RVer.
 
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I think BL is a suicide, and I think GP is deceased in GTNP or YNP (less likely). I think GTNP and YNP Law Enforcement have cctv at all park entrances (which I think will confirm when GP and BL came in and when they went out. I happen to think they may have entered GTNP twice (and might have even been coming down from YNP just before BL supposedly began his three day hike along the Snake River which ended with the alibi-building hitchhike ride to Jackson Dam.

I still think it will be key if they can prove that BL sent a text on GP’s phone on the 30th (on the way to FL) because I think GTNP LE already knows that GP was not a passenger (up front, anyway) in that van when it left the park.

It appears that at this time, GTNP LE thinks GP may be found in the area between Jenny Lake and Colter Bay. I think anywhere between Jackson Hole and Colter Bay. If they made a brief trip west and/or up to YNP, there are also places up in Yellowstone where LE may never find a trace. I guess any possible YNP trip would be based in the veracity of the Victor and Ashland sitings, and even then, it could’ve just been a short excursion out of the park

I think BL told his parents a partially true story about how he and GP had split up, and that he was flying home early to begin to put her things into storage. Then he flew back (possibly this time at GP’s request - that’s how codependent their relationship was - to drive her from SLC to GTNP and then on up to Yellowstone so she could then meet and continue the trip with her friend from NY. At that point, BL was to take the van back to FL. That was the plan - but something went wrong after the Jenny Lake lot. And this (again) is all speculation

I truly think BL’s parents bought the story he concocted. They had no reason not to. Plus, BL may not have known what he was going to do until he did it. This was probably not premeditated.

Only after 9/10 and 9/11 did things start to heat up - they became so hot that the parents now started to wonder about BL and the story.. but as soon as they did so, BL was gone. The parents were now simply confused. He was still their son. They didn’t know anything other than what he had told them

Plus, did anybody ever actually ask if BL was ever inside the house after the 11th? I don’t fault LE. BL was gone quick (I think w/in two days of when the missing persons report was filed). And I don’t blame the parents, other than they may have raised a son with low self esteem and an all-engrossing fear of abandonment.

It may sound illogical, but a terrified insecure person like that might contemplate taking their partner’s life in order to keep that partner from “abandoning” THEM. Abandonment’s message (especially between two people who are codependent), once again, is: you’re no good, you’re not good enough for me, and you never will be.

MOO
I think the lack of response by BL's mom to texts from GP's mom puts a big plot hole in the idea that BL's parents thought that they had simply broken up.
 
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As I rewatched the body cam video I thought of a relevant question. When GP was put into the police vehicle while BL was questioned, I am certain that the police car had the recorder on while she was inside. So when she was on the phone discussing the events with her mother, the police would have been recording her side of the conversation. That is one tactic law enforcement does when they place you in the car.
That would be some nice info to have coming from GP regarding the situation she was in. That might shine a light on the mindset of BL/GP’s current relations. Just a thought.
 
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