GUILTY WY - Jesse Speer for kidnap, rape of 10yo girl, Cody, 8 Oct 2012

[pinto]

That Teton Valley news link Pinto put up looks VERY interesting.
Maybe he just takes photos.

Or maybe he did just take photos, and then kept escalating... the 15yo was possibly assaulted but not raped?

 

[Really?]

Maybe he took photos for his next album of landscapes !! Only this time with a human subject.

 

[iamnotagolem]

Would a perp be interested in a 15 y/o? If this girl was 10 the body development is far different than a 15 y/o.

 

[sfbaynancydrew]

It kills me that someone who was considered a good father and loved by his children is capable of such gross detachment of what he was doing to someone else's little girl. What makes that happen to someone? It's just so sad.

 

[Jersey*Girl]

Another website of his...

http://www.whoismind.com/whois/aroundcolorado.com.html

Domain-name: aroundcolorado.com
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Domain-ip: 206.216.17.216 United States
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Nameservers:
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Domain record: Domain Name: AROUNDCOLORADO.COM
Registrar: EVERYONES INTERNET, LTD. DBA SOFTLAYER
Whois Server: whois.softlayer.com
Referral URL: http://www.softlayer.com
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Whois Data:
Registrant:
Jesse Speer Photography & Design
2732 Donna Ave
Bozeman, Montana 59718
US

Domain name: AROUNDCOLORADO.COM

* More at link

 

[Really?]

I think there could be a possibility that none of his victims (Yes, IMO there are more) were sexually assaulted.

 

[Jersey*Girl]

Have to run again, I'm sorry.

 

[carbuff]

Does anyone think he was ready to be caught....???? He made many mistakes .....just saying :no:

I think it was pretty close to a first for him, and when he saw he was about to be caught, he panicked.

 

[Really?]

wonder where he got all the pics of naked girls that the victim :what:saw in his truck that night.

 

[Really?]

IMO, he got carried in too deep into his art and it turned macabre.

 

[lisser]

Does this abductor have money or good friend that is a lawyer...... maybe a big time lawyer has stepped in for the spotlight???????????

The Chief of Police said in the presser that both prosecuting and city attorneys had asked him not to say the name of the suspect during the presser.

 

[Really?]

Really?

 

[MsFacetious]

[/B]

This is what people are asking themselves-he knew someone in Westmister-did he visit this person in the time when the crime occured-I have not seen anyone say here that all photographers are connected-just JS

No, actually people WERE suggesting that.

People were suggesting a "ring" involving these photographers he is friends with.
Linking to OTHER photographers posts on other message boards made by OTHER photographers, not the suspect.

Stating he has friends in Westminster is fine. He has friends in just about every state in the country though.
Linking to a message board with posts by a friend... and many other photographers, in my opinion is not okay.

There was also suggestions that maybe his girlfriend and/or his ex worked with him like Homolka.
Posts are being deleted and that is good. You may not have seen the posts I'm referring to. I didn't respond to them directly.

But just know that you could easily be connecting a member of Websleuths to him through social networking.
That scares me. :what:

 

[lisser]

I think it was pretty close to a first for him, and when he saw he was about to be caught, he panicked.

I feel that way too. He used his own car, took a child in front of two of her friends in daylight in front of a building that likely had a camera, took her through the front entrance of the National Park that has cameras, left behind a crucial piece of evidence in the thule carrier, and apparently drove home after that, leaving (if rumor is correct) the pictures of the other girls in his vehicle. Either he is a really dumb perp, or he hasn't been doing this long.

I am grateful he made so many "mistakes".

 

[SweetT]

I don't think people are saying his contacts are involved-just that he knows people in the area the crime occurred! JMO

I forgot to add .. .this was also during a time period that he was incommunicado on social media. I think 2 weeks after he left? Or 2 weeks before he returned, can't remember, now page is down.

I read that link. Very interesting indeed. Does make you wonder if he was involved with that also. Guess LE will sort through it all and find out if so.. I'm guessing if he had other victims LE will figure that out also, cause one just doesnt get a bunch of naked pics of kids without doing some illegal stuff.

 

[SweetT]

I feel that way too. He used his own car, took a child in front of two of her friends in daylight in front of a building that likely had a camera, took her through the front entrance of the National Park that has cameras, left behind a crucial piece of evidence in the thule carrier, and apparently drove home after that, leaving (if rumor is correct) the pictures of the other girls in his vehicle. Either he is a really dumb perp, or he hasn't been doing this long.

I am grateful he made so many "mistakes".

Maybe I am wrong but I thought he escaped through the Cody entrance of the YNP I did not think he actually took the girl there. He would have had to go up through Gardiner entrance/exit to get home as the other one is open but you cant get past Cooke City as the Bear tooth pass is closed.

 

[cluciano63]

Authorities may have something definite that shows the cases are not connected but the differing MO cannot be a deciding factor, IMO. Nor can the fact that one was let go and the other murdered. It is not true that perps never let a victim go and kill others. Duncan did it.

So far I really see nothing that ties the two cases but I hope LE has positive proof before they rule this guy out on other crimes rather than just something a profiler says.

CO police said "ruled out"; I think they must be basing that on either DNA and/or knowing exactly where this guy was on the 5th.

 

[MsFacetious]

Also, this seems it may answer a question.

"and did not voluntarily release the victim substantially unharmed in a safe place prior to trial."

http://www.ktvq.com/files/Speers arrest docs.pdf

I don't know if that applies if he released her voluntarily but she wasn't unharmed and wasn't in a safe place...

Or if it means he did not release her voluntarily, did not leave her unharmed and did not leave her in a safe place.

I don't know if it's all or nothing. Could he have released her yet that still apply?

If it is all or nothing, then that would mean she escaped.

 

[lisser]

Also, this seems it may answer a question.

"and did not voluntarily release the victim substantially unharmed in a safe place prior to trial."

http://www.ktvq.com/files/Speers arrest docs.pdf

I don't know if that applies if he released her voluntarily but she wasn't unharmed and wasn't in a safe place...

Or if it means he did not release her voluntarily, did not leave her unharmed and did not leave her in a safe place.

I don't know if it's all or nothing. Could he have released her yet that still apply?

If it is all or nothing, then that would mean she escaped.

In the presser it was stated that the victim said that he put a cloth bag over her head, drove around for a bit, and released her telling her to turn her back and count to 50. I think it's option one, he released her voluntarily, but not in a safe place or unharmed.

 

[SweetT]

Just so you know MS Facetious I don't for one believe that any of this Man's friends probably even knew what he was up to. I also frequent YNP regularly and take road trips etc with my husband and family. We also take pics of everywhere we go..it is a part time hobby of ours. I do however think it is suspect when a girl goes missing in an area that he was known to be in especially when it may even be a child of an acquantance of his. Should be checked out for sure.