GUILTY Yoselyn Ortega charged with 2 counts ea-1st and 2nd Degree Murder of Krim Children

[JodyMT]

since she's in police custody, who pays for her care? YO or the state?

Oh, you can be sure YO isn't going to be paying a dime for that hospital bill. :furious:

 

[Hickory Born]

Then again she might NOT be in a psych ward. Since she has been charged with a crime, LE could have told the hospital their jail does not have the facilities to care her for after her hospital stay and for the hospital to please keep her until she is able to be admitted to jail.

Would LE normally take their jail patients to Bellevue (Manhattan's public hospital)? It is my understanding that Bellevue has problems because of the storm and all patients were transferred out.

 

[Darkman00]

Last Name Krim

 

[Darkman00]

Speaking about psychos, psychiatrists and Manhattan

 

[Darkman00]

Originally published Friday, October 26, 2012 at 10:59 AM

Comcast CEO expresses condolences to Krim family

http://online.wsj.com/article/APcda7caf51469473ca0ac3fbcca00dfa0.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20121026/us-comcast-children-stabbed/
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2012/10/26/comcast-ceo-roberts-expre_n_2025000.html

 

[Hickory Born]

Does anyone think they are waiting for a Grand Jury to meet and Indite before there is an arraignment?

 

[Darkman00]

'Killer' nanny accused in kids' bathtub slashing deaths hit with throw-away-the-key indictment

By LAURA ITALIANO
Last Updated: 5:35 PM, November 13, 2012
Posted: 5:13 PM, November 13, 2012

A grand jury has voted a throw-away-the-key indictment -- charging first degree murder -- against Yoselyn Ortega, the nanny accused in the bathtub slashing deaths of two young Upper West Side children under her care.

The rare charge -- brought only 27 times in all of New York in 2011, according to state stats -- carries the maximum sentence of life without parole, meaning zero chance of daylight.

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More at the Source: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/...ed_of_bathtub_slashing_2Afik9oQeqcYel8yCJ0jOJ

 

[Darkman00]

"No date has yet been set for Ortega to be arraigned on the indictment, which charges her with two counts of murder one and two counts of murder two. A call to Ortega's lawyer, Valerie Van Leer-Greenberg, were not returned."

(same link as in above post)

 

[Darkman00]

Nanny Indicted on Murder Charges For Stabbing Death of Two Children

Updated 20 mins ago
November 13, 2012 5:27pm | By Irene Plagianos, DNAinfo Reporter/Producer

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Ortega, who has been hospitalized and under police guard in the hospital since the incident, was arraigned at her bedside last week after officers were finally able to interview her about the crimes.

Detectives were initially unable to question Ortega because she remained in a catatonic state after being put in a medically-induced coma, sources said.

Ortega's Supreme Court arraingment could happen as early as Wednesday, according to a law enforcement source.

Sources say Marina Krim is "devastated" by the loss of her two children...

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Read more: http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/201...er-charges-for-stabbing-death-of-two-children

 

[Darkman00]

Nanny Indicted in Stabbing Deaths of 2 Children

by JONATHAN DIENST
NBCNewYork.com

updated 2 hours 56 minutes ago

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When their mother, Marina Krim, returned with her 3-year-old daughter, she found their bodies in the bathtub, with Ortega lying on the bathroom floor with stab wounds to her neck. A kitchen knife was nearby.

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More at the Source: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/49811658/

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P.S. BBM .. not sure how accurate this info is ... (as, previously, it was reported somewhat differently .. a couple of times actually .. --- Firstly they report it "this" way, then they report it "that" way, now, here, they report it "this" way again)

 

[Hickory Born]

NY Times has a blip about it which is opened up for comments.

http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/13/upper-west-side-nanny-is-indicted-on-murder-charges/

Sounds like she has yet to be arraigned:

"The nanny, Yoselyn Ortega, 50, remains hospitalized at NewYork-Presbyterian/Weill Cornell Medical Center. Her arraignment on murder charges is expected to take place via a video link to State Supreme Court in Manhattan, but has not been scheduled."

I guess we will hear from YO's attorney after the arraignment...hopefully!

 

[Darkman00]

yes... saw that one to earlier also... - same thing basically .. nothing new there...

as to comments .. at most of those articles one can comment generally (in some, though, have to register at their site first, ... basically can't comment in anonymous mode .. at some other sites.. - anonymous posting of comments is OK)

 

[Darkman00]

Seems like 2 arraignments were mentioned in the Media (one of them maybe is incorrect info? .. and actually was her "being charged" not "arraigned", or is it the same thing basically?)

Talking about this:

1. ... was arraigned at her bedside last week after officers were finally able to interview her about the crimes.

Thought that was when she got charged, not arraigned...

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2. Ortega's Supreme Court arraingment could happen as early as Wednesday, according to a law enforcement source.

 

[JBean]

The NY Court criminal website finally has her in the system.
She was "arrested" 11/3
The website says we cannot bring info over so here is the link and you can put in her name and read what is there. good place to follow the case:

ETA:OK actually it said I cannot link the website here. so you have to google it.New York State ecourts webcrim.


There are 2 cases.
One is NY criminal court
CourtNew York Criminal Court
Case # 2012NY084842
Defendant Ortega, Yoselyn
Attorney of record is Greenberg
was supposed to appear today

and one is NY Supreme Court
CourtNew York Supreme Court - Criminal Term
Case # 05112-2012
Defendant Ortega, Yoselyn
Next appearance 11/28
Supreme CT judge is Hon. Gregory Carro
no defense attorney named.

No motions filed or any additional information.

 

[Hickory Born]

Seems like 2 arraignments were mentioned in the Media (one of them maybe is incorrect info? .. and actually was her "being charged" not "arraigned", or is it the same thing basically?)

Talking about this:

1. ... was arraigned at her bedside last week after officers were finally able to interview her about the crimes.

Thought that was when she got charged, not arraigned...

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2. Ortega's Supreme Court arraingment could happen as early as Wednesday, according to a law enforcement source.

It is my understanding when one is arraigned they submit a plea of guilty or not guilty. YO's attorney was not with her during the interview, so i don't think there has been an arraignment yet. I assume the bond hearing will be at the same time the arraignment is held and the Judge most likely will not allow any type bond.

 

[JBean]

Charge Detail Disposition/Sentence
PL 125.25 01 A Felony, 2 counts, Arrest charge, Arraignment charge
DescriptionMurder: Intention
Indictment Count3
PL 125.27 1A
**TOP CHARGE** A Felony, 2 counts, Not an arrest charge, Arraignment charge
DescriptionMurder-1st: Police Officer
Indictment Count2
PL 125.27 1A A Felony, 2 counts, Not an arrest charge, Arraignment charge
DescriptionMurder-1st: Police Officer
Indictment Count1
PL 125.25 01 A Felony, 2 counts, Arrest charge, Arraignment charge
DescriptionMurder: Intention
Indictment Count4

 

[JBean]

The NY Court criminal website finally has in in the system.
She was "arrested" 11/3
The website says we cannot bring info over so here is the link and you can put in her name and read what is there. good place to follow the case:
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There are 2 cases.
One is NY criminal court
CourtNew York Criminal Court
Case # 2012NY084842
Defendant Ortega, Yoselyn
Attorney of record is Greenberg
was supposed to appear today

and one is NY Supreme Court
CourtNew York Supreme Court - Criminal Term
Case # 05112-2012
Defendant Ortega, Yoselyn
Next appearance 11/28
Supreme CT judge is Hon. Gregory Carro
no defense attorney named.

No motions filed or any additional information.

OK I looked at the charges and it looks like it is referencing the original criminal court case that was transferred to the Supreme Court.the next appearance is 11/28.

 

[Yellow]

Ny post said there were only 27 or so cases in all of 2011 in all of New York where they charged first degree murder which means a sentence of LWOP. So hopefully she will get that - twice over!

 

[JodyMT]

Why would it be going to the Supreme Court already? I thought cases only went to the Supreme Court when they were on appeal?

 

[JBean]

Why would it be going to the Supreme Court already? I thought cases only went to the Supreme Court when they were on appeal?

I think in NY the "Supreme" Court is more like a main or central court.I think a felony criminal cases must be tried there. Here in CA it would be at Superior Court.

ETA: here is some information for you:

>>The Criminal Branch of the Supreme Court is the only Court that can decide felony cases. Most people are indicted for criminal violations in Criminal Court, which is a lower court. But if the person is indicted on a felony charge, any pretrial proceedings, guilty pleas, trial and sentencing must take place in the Criminal Branch of the Supreme Court and not in Criminal Court. (There is a section on Criminal Court later in this booklet.)<<
http://www.inmotiononline.org/assets/pdfs/TheBasicsSeries_English/Courts_in_NYC.pdf