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Inconceivable that they didn't see it if people in the crowd did. The optics on their rifles could have identified one if he were on the moon!
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Secret Service under scrutiny as Oversight Committee summons director
The Oversight Committee - the main investigative board of the US House of Representatives - has summoned US Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheatle to testify at a hearing on 22 July.
"Americans demand answers about the assassination attempt of President Trump," the panel said in a statement on social media.
At a news conference earlier, FBI special agent Kevin Rojek said “it is surprising” that the gunman was able to open fire on the stage before the Secret Service killed him.
But when asked if there was a failure of security, he said they were "not gonna make that assessment" with an active investigation.
The Secret Service was not at the news conference.
The Oversight Committee - the main investigative board of the US House of Representatives - has summoned US Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheatle to testify at a hearing on 22 July.
"Americans demand answers about the assassination attempt of President Trump," the panel said in a statement on social media.
At a news conference earlier, FBI special agent Kevin Rojek said “it is surprising” that the gunman was able to open fire on the stage before the Secret Service killed him.
But when asked if there was a failure of security, he said they were "not gonna make that assessment" with an active investigation.
The Secret Service was not at the news conference.
Donald Trump rally shooting: Donald Trump calls on Americans to 'stand united' after assassination attempt
The Secret Service, which protects the former president, is facing questions after the shooting at Saturday's rally.
www.bbc.co.uk
IceIce9
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Still wouldn’t it get their attention to see someone on a roof?
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When a president or former president has come to our city in the past, members of Secret Service have stationed themselves on each of the rooftops.
Honestly I can see why some people are thinking conspiracy on this incident.
Honestly I can see why some people are thinking conspiracy on this incident.
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This is all very disturbing and I fear it will beget more violence. I hope Trump makes a full recovery. I’m sure it was very frightening, hence his angrily telling the audience to “fight.” I hope he will deescalate in future comments. Words have power, as Tricia so often says. Both sides speaking calmly can go a long way toward promoting peace and heading off violence. But of course there are always those who will choose violence.
I remember when Bobby Kennedy was gunned down after winning the California primary in 1968. That had been a volatile campaign with Lyndon Johnson deciding not to run, Hubert Humphrey stepping in, peace candidate Eugene Mc Carthy running, and on the day Martin Luther King was assasinated, Bobby Kennedy said this:
“What we need in the United States is not division; what we need in the United States is not hatred; what we need in the United States is not violence and lawlessness, but is love, and wisdom, and compassion toward one another, and a feeling of justice toward those who still suffer within our country, whether they be white or whether they be black. ... let us dedicate ourselves to what the Greeks wrote so many years ago: to tame the savageness of man and make gentle the life of this world. Let us dedicate ourselves to that, and say a prayer for our country and for our people.”[30]
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Not long before Bobby Kennedy was killed he gave a speech at U.C. Davis near Sacramento, the state capitol. My husband was a local newspaper photographer and had the opportunity to take photos from close vantage points, so Kennedy’s murder hit us hard. We were in our early 20’s and it seemed that the world was going mad. Now, as we edge toward 80, it’s going mad again. Bobby Kennedy’s words are still as true now as they were then.
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I remember when Bobby Kennedy was gunned down after winning the California primary in 1968. That had been a volatile campaign with Lyndon Johnson deciding not to run, Hubert Humphrey stepping in, peace candidate Eugene Mc Carthy running, and on the day Martin Luther King was assasinated, Bobby Kennedy said this:
“What we need in the United States is not division; what we need in the United States is not hatred; what we need in the United States is not violence and lawlessness, but is love, and wisdom, and compassion toward one another, and a feeling of justice toward those who still suffer within our country, whether they be white or whether they be black. ... let us dedicate ourselves to what the Greeks wrote so many years ago: to tame the savageness of man and make gentle the life of this world. Let us dedicate ourselves to that, and say a prayer for our country and for our people.”[30]
Assassination of Robert F. Kennedy - Wikipedia
Not long before Bobby Kennedy was killed he gave a speech at U.C. Davis near Sacramento, the state capitol. My husband was a local newspaper photographer and had the opportunity to take photos from close vantage points, so Kennedy’s murder hit us hard. We were in our early 20’s and it seemed that the world was going mad. Now, as we edge toward 80, it’s going mad again. Bobby Kennedy’s words are still as true now as they were then.
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Marantz4250b
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BBC Verify: How close was the gunman to Trump?
Joe Inwood explains where the gunman was when he attempted to assassinate former President Trump.
www.bbc.co.uk
This video at about 1:43 clearly shows the counter sniper watching him. He would categorically have been able to see a rifle!
Why didn't he shoot him?
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Yes! Because when a president or former president has come to the city where I live Secret Service members are positioned on each rooftop.
Secret Service had one job last night - and failed spectacularly
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The FBI may be leading the investigation into how this could have happened, but the finger of blame points clearly at the Secret Service.
They have one job – to protect America’s presidents, both current and former – and in that they failed spectacularly last night.
It has been 43 years since the last assassination attempt on a serving US president when Ronald Reagan was shot in the lung but survived.
Today US politicians, and the public, want to know how a would-be assassin was able to crawl onto a rooftop vantage point, armed with a rifle and loose off four shots towards the podium, all in an area that was supposed to have been cleared.
The investigation already underway involves the FBI, the Secret Service and the Department of Homeland Security.
The Director of the Secret Service, Kimberly Cheatle, has been summoned to testify before the US House of Representatives on 22 July.
Frank Gardner
Security correspondent
The FBI may be leading the investigation into how this could have happened, but the finger of blame points clearly at the Secret Service.
They have one job – to protect America’s presidents, both current and former – and in that they failed spectacularly last night.
It has been 43 years since the last assassination attempt on a serving US president when Ronald Reagan was shot in the lung but survived.
Today US politicians, and the public, want to know how a would-be assassin was able to crawl onto a rooftop vantage point, armed with a rifle and loose off four shots towards the podium, all in an area that was supposed to have been cleared.
The investigation already underway involves the FBI, the Secret Service and the Department of Homeland Security.
The Director of the Secret Service, Kimberly Cheatle, has been summoned to testify before the US House of Representatives on 22 July.
Donald Trump rally shooting: Donald Trump calls on Americans to 'stand united' after assassination attempt
The Secret Service, which protects the former president, is facing questions after the shooting at Saturday's rally.
www.bbc.co.uk
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It is 'surprising' the gunman was able to open fire on the stage before Secret Service killed him, FBI special agent says
An Associated Press analysis of more than a dozen videos and photos from the scene of the Donald Trump rally in Butler, Pennsylvania, as well as satellite imagery of the site, shows the alleged shooter was able to get astonishingly close to the stage.
The roof where the body lay was less than 150 meters from where Trump was speaking. For reference, 150 meters is a distance at which US army recruits must hit a scaled human-sized silhouette to qualify with the M-16 rifle. The AR-15, like the shooter at the Trump rally had, is the semi-automatic civilian version of the military M-16.
Asked at a press conference whether law enforcement did not know the shooter was on the roof until he began firing, Kevin Rojek, the special agent in charge of the FBI’s Pittsburgh Field Office, responded that “that is our assessment at this time”.
“It is surprising” that the gunman was able to open fire on the stage before the Secret Service killed him, he said.
www.theguardian.com
It is 'surprising' the gunman was able to open fire on the stage before Secret Service killed him, FBI special agent says
An Associated Press analysis of more than a dozen videos and photos from the scene of the Donald Trump rally in Butler, Pennsylvania, as well as satellite imagery of the site, shows the alleged shooter was able to get astonishingly close to the stage.
The roof where the body lay was less than 150 meters from where Trump was speaking. For reference, 150 meters is a distance at which US army recruits must hit a scaled human-sized silhouette to qualify with the M-16 rifle. The AR-15, like the shooter at the Trump rally had, is the semi-automatic civilian version of the military M-16.
Asked at a press conference whether law enforcement did not know the shooter was on the roof until he began firing, Kevin Rojek, the special agent in charge of the FBI’s Pittsburgh Field Office, responded that “that is our assessment at this time”.
“It is surprising” that the gunman was able to open fire on the stage before the Secret Service killed him, he said.
Joe Biden to give Oval Office address after assassination attempt on Donald Trump – latest updates
Suspect, named as Thomas Matthew Crooks, killed in shooting at Pennsylvania rally; Trump and Biden reportedly had ‘good conversation’
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Trump rally attendee says he saw alleged shooter "move from roof to roof"
An attendee at the Trump rally told CBS Pittsburgh he saw the alleged shooter on a rooftop about "200 to 250 yards" away
www.cbsnews.com
LE evacuated neighbors of the shooter's parents in the middle of the night and told them they could not return until noon on Sunday as they executed a search warrant on the family home of the shooter on Milford Dr in Bethel Park, and conducted a bomb sweep of the neighborhood.
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"We do not believe that the attempt to eliminate and assassinate Trump was organised by the current authorities," Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told reporters.
"But the atmosphere around candidate Trump...provoked what America is confronting today.
"After numerous attempts to remove candidate Trump from the political arena - using first legal tools, the courts, prosecutors, attempts to politically discredit and compromise the candidate - it was obvious to all outside observers that his life was in danger."
"But the atmosphere around candidate Trump...provoked what America is confronting today.
"After numerous attempts to remove candidate Trump from the political arena - using first legal tools, the courts, prosecutors, attempts to politically discredit and compromise the candidate - it was obvious to all outside observers that his life was in danger."
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So, in three paragraphs he goes from:
We don't think Biden did it
To
Biden did it
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No grassy knoll though.
If nothing else Trump is defiant imo it was to display a show of strength
Those agents risked their lives to protect him.
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Authorities have identified the gunman involved in the attack against former US President Donald Trump on Saturday as 20-year-old Thomas Matthew Crooks, who was killed by Secret Service agents at the scene after the shooting.
The FBI named Crooks in a statement early Sunday morning, identifying him as a resident of Bethel Park, Pennsylvania – about 35 miles south of Butler, where Trump was holding his rally.
Crooks graduated from Bethel Park High School in 2022, according to a local media report and a video of the school’s commencement.
He was registered to vote as a Republican, according to a listing in Pennsylvania’s voter database that matched his name, age, and a Bethel Park address that law enforcement was searching Saturday night and is linked to Crooks in public records.
This year’s presidential election would have been the first he was old enough to vote in.
The FBI named Crooks in a statement early Sunday morning, identifying him as a resident of Bethel Park, Pennsylvania – about 35 miles south of Butler, where Trump was holding his rally.
Crooks graduated from Bethel Park High School in 2022, according to a local media report and a video of the school’s commencement.
He was registered to vote as a Republican, according to a listing in Pennsylvania’s voter database that matched his name, age, and a Bethel Park address that law enforcement was searching Saturday night and is linked to Crooks in public records.
This year’s presidential election would have been the first he was old enough to vote in.
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Did he have Adam Lanza as a role model?Trump rally attendee says he saw alleged shooter "move from roof to roof"
An attendee at the Trump rally told CBS Pittsburgh he saw the alleged shooter on a rooftop about "200 to 250 yards" away
LE evacuated neighbors of the shooter's parents in the middle of the night and told them they could not return until noon on Sunday as they executed a search warrant on the family home of the shooter on Milford Dr in Bethel Park, and conducted a bomb sweep of the neighborhood.
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If they had seen the shooter on the roof like others in the crowd did they could have prevented the shooting.
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Watching GMA, they are saying he appears to have acted alone. But a senatorial candidate and first row witness, Dave McCormick, said he felt shots may have came from 2 directions.
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