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Snapped vs Premeditated Remember that premeditation can be formed in an instant!

I am thinking he felt, at that time, that he would get away with it all and the case would be considered as a spouse leaving with the children or meeting with foul play not of his making. Thus, he didn't want to put her body in a tank, because it would make the BS&W (sediment and water) too high...

My son gets a company truck for his own use as well as use on the job, and all gas is paid for by the company no matter if it is being used for work or play. He can and does use it for family errands. It's a perk.

Knowing what is known now, I found it chilling to watch him. He had knowledge of how to try to fix a marriage and he could have just gotten out of his. His choices were so bizarre.

My two cents as a former oilfield worker - base pay with a good oilfield job is only part of the story. Many oilfield companies triple match your 401k contribution, give you tens of thousands in stock, give you cool swag, free breakfast and lunches, and a yearly bonus in February that can equal...

Certain violations require a court appearance, such as speeding X miles above the speed limit, speeding in a school zone, kids unbuckled. Sent from my QTAQZ3 using Tapatalk

In researching distended abdomens, I also saw NUTRITIONAL DWARFISM. Both caused by malnutrition. Did the children suffer from this? Especially Hannah? Sent from my QTAQZ3 using Tapatalk

Star Valley - were they headed to Payson? If so, why? It's a conservative area known for its rodeo. WHERE were they going and WHY right after pulling the kids? Running AGAIN. And WHERE DID THEY GET THE MONEY for all this? Sent from my QTAQZ3 using Tapatalk

Great finds...very disturbing. And no, these festivals are no place for little ones. Just as we completely separate the K-2 kids from the 3rd- 5th kids and them from the middle schoolers and them from the high schoolers. Sent from my QTAQZ3 using Tapatalk

If you've lived in that area, it would strike you as odd. It's soooo gloomy, so dim. People want as much light as they can get coming in. And on rare sunny days, everyone is OUT! Except those poor kids. Sent from my QTAQZ3 using Tapatalk

IIRC, I saw a video of when the kids were little, and they were gathering eggs. I think I got to it from a link on either Thread #5 or #6...unsure... Sent from my QTAQZ3 using Tapatalk

Yes, it's as creepy as h*ll, and there's JH proudly sticking her tagline on it. Grrr, someone touched my kid like that, they'd have been verrrrrry sorry. Those horrible monsters, letting anyone who wanted demanding hugs, choking, taking pics with, all so wrong. And no one seeing this speaking...

Likely coming from Jen listed as groom, and Sarah as bride, on the Connecticut marriage license. But that's probably just because the wording on the form has not kept up with new thoughts, and not meant to define roles. Sent from my QTAQZ3 using Tapatalk

Yes, sleeveless in December in Houston area is very likely. We played outside in shorts on Christmas many a year. It can be VERY mild and humid. Sent from my QTAQZ3 using Tapatalk

No, we don't know. But I've seen enough shoddy police work -at all levels - in my life to be concerned. Sent from my QTAQZ3 using Tapatalk

Absolutely. Absolutely. I have sinking, angry feeling that the truth will not be pursued vigorously. It may be up to us, the caring members of the public, to try to keep this case alive. Sent from my QTAQZ3 using Tapatalk

Okay, I know I am posting alot, but those crazies actually said in the Oregon CPS report one reason "LEE" didn't work out back in MN was because she used WIRE HANGERS against Jen's wishes? MOMMIE DEAREST craziness!!! Those case workers were ASLEEP at the wheel and the kids paid the price.

Oregon CPS didn't even get Devonte's name right in part of the report. Yes, to me it matters because it shows sloppiness. GRRRRRRRRRRR. "Devonta". I'm just so furious right now everything is setting me off. And Cierra with 2 r's, I've only seen one r, and spelled Sierra in parts, too. COME ON...

This is from 2009, I can't seem to find any photos of the first 3 kiddos before the adoption of the second set...I don't see an OBESE Hannah, just a beautiful little girl already getting undersized bc of evil withholders. So sad they all fell into the clutches of TORTURERS and MONSTERS. I think...

I hope everyone goes and reads the whole article. I HAVE NO WORDS, or no words I can type here. This is HORRIBLE, a NIGHTMARE. Those poor children. FAILED at every turn, it is sickening. I hope those two "EXPLETIVES DELETEDs" burn in the hot place and everything they did to the kids is done to...