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Just a few thoughts... what if GW4 was told by his parents that he needed to do whatever was needed for JW to get custody as they had helped him get custody of his son. Then, as a family unit, they were all secure to move and do whatever they wanted without answering to anyone? So for GW4 it...

The only one among those who died who had any drug charges to speak of was Gary Rhoden. He was arrested in Russell, Ky., in December 2011 after he and his stepfather were caught using drugs in a car in the parking lot of a Dunham’s sporting goods store. The stepfather, according to the police...

When the 911 call from BJM was released, does LE release entire 911 calls or do they hold anything back? Probably a dumb question, but I'm just curious.

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2016/06/14/paperwork-filed-for-rhoden-estates.html

Maybe this will mean something new is getting ready to happen??? Hope this is not against TOS. This is site of Ohio House of Representative, Cliff Rosenberger. https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10101772024291306&id=39510294&hc_location=ufi

Just to clarify that there is a difference in pronouncing a deceased person and the actual time of death. The victims had to be officially pronounced in order for the medical examiner to transport the victims. While the police were able to see that the victims were in fact deceased, they had to...

DAYTON — Ohio Attorney General Mike DeWine said he will spend all day Friday in Pike County reviewing evidence from last month’s shootings that killed eight. DeWine said state investigators are building a case “with one clue after the other,” but did not indicate they...

Is it possible that LE was letting people in the area know about the grow op and roosters to solicit tips? Kind of letting people know, "hey, we know about this already. It's ok to give us tips in this direction."

The grow op question was answered very early on... Maybe before LE realized the scope of what they were dealing with. I think they stumbled onto something bigger, that reaches further than anyone thought on day 2 or 3. Once they realized what was actually going on and how many people knew, I...

Do you think that CR Sr had keys to housing on all the properties since he owned the properties? I was thinking maybe the killer got his keys and went to the other properties?

I have read so many things that I hope I am not confused: was it said that any of the homes were broken into? For some reason I thought that maybe 2 were and 2 weren't? Does anyone else recall reading that? Thank you.

Agreed! I change my mind daily.

I forgot about the cartel and the fighting birds. Lol. So much to keep track of in this case. do you think it was related to drugs?

I don't see the demolition derby car having any involvement in this case. I can't see 8 people being killed in such a horrible way over the derby car. I also can't see how the road rage incident would fit in for basically the same reason.

I could see that. Sort of like when your home business expands and you finally move into an office. In this case, he moved his living quarters instead of his business. And he had a trusted cousin to take over the day to day.

I think that CR Sr got in over his head. I think he had his hands dipped into many pies waiting to see what would strike him rich. I think he thought he was a super bada**. I think GR was his right hand man. I don't think those two hand any idea what they hand stumbled upon. In their world, they...

Exactly! It's hard to understand why some of our family members choose such a crazy nomadic life style. No gas money, sometimes no car, no steady employment let alone a career path, and constantly bunking in with different family members... We have had middle of the night phone calls for money...

I imagine it's no different than leaving a house "crime scene" vacant and locked down. In this case since they can move the crime scene, I guess it's more cost effective??? And I wondered, does LE think someone would tamper with the scenes such as arson? I certainly would not want to be a lone...

Pawn shops and flea markets are the working person's nightmare. People will steal anything for $20 to get high around my area. I am in the "tri-state" and have lived in Ohio, Kentucky, and Indiana so I imagine it's the same in Pike County. Only an hour or so from me. We see the drug life and...

So was it a message or someone who really wanted to make sure the job was done?