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I wonder if they both were originally planning car accidents for their spouses -- didn't Lori tell someone (MG?) that she expected CV to die in a car accident on the way to AZ from TX? I am trying to recall where I heard that, but I'm certain I did...

A crawl space under a crawl space, huh? o_O

ALL JMO: Thinking on several posts here about the Chad & Lori dynamic, I personally have vacillated between two conclusions. Some context to my line of thinking: 1) MG said in her interview with Nate that Lori thought Tammy would die before Lori moved to Rexburg, but that didn't happen. We know...

Seeking some clarifications on Chad/Lori "zombie" classifications-- We know Chad and Lori claimed CV was possessed (apparently by some N. Snyder person) MG said in her interview with Nate that Lori referred to JJ as a zombie shortly before he disappeared. Do we have any documented instances of...

Maybe different in broadcast, my experience is print/digital. Lawyers generally on payroll to resist pressure, IMO. ETA: It could easily be either explanation - abundance of caution or LE ask. JMO always.

My thought, too, about IP and MP, based on who could still be dangerous & isn't in custody. Could MP have threatened unborn baby if IP went to LE? Maybe baby needs protection. MOO

Maybe yes, maybe no. With a background in news, I can say it is not uncommon for LE to call and ask for compromising info to be removed from stories. The particular media company will make the call. This happened to me on breaking news. I'd think the same for photos. JMO MOO

It gives me a fleeting moment of glee to hear Nate refer to Kay, intentionally or not, as Lori's mother ;)

A neighbor of Daybell's in Salem says he noticed several "out of the ordinary," "big bonfires" at the Daybell home: 1 in the fall, and 2-3 this spring. (Video at link) https://twitter.com/LaurenSnews/status/1270954443790413825?s=19

Via Justin Lum: "BRING JJ & TYLEE HOME: The woman on the left you know as Kay Woodcock - JJ Vallow’s grandma. Next to her is Natalie Pawlowski, the ex-wife of Ian Pawlowski - now married to Lori Vallow’s niece. Natalie has also been impacted by this case. She made sure to support Kay tonight. "...

Chilling find

Ah, so in the way that MG says Lori was deceived to commit horrors, they'd reverse the roles?

Agree, even typing these things feels criminal.

Earlier I threw out the idea that Chad had gotten wind that authorities were about to discover the bodies and relocated them to his backyard from another location. Now I'm wondering if it's possible Chad got wind of the search warrant getting signed 6/5 and, following your line of thinking...

My interpretation was that, given COVID restrictions, Chad was requesting not to appear in person for hearings. I also thought I heard the judge make a stipulation that, should Chad bond out, he must appear at all hearings (remotely). I'm not sure about communication while incarcerated, but I...

Do we know where the attempted flight story originated? If it is true that Chad attempted to flee, why was this not brought up during the bond hearing as evidence of his flight risk?

I sure hope they start thinking about seeking justice for their mom vs. protecting their dad. (ETA: MOO)

Good points that I had forgotten!

Another thought. The charges read, in part, that the defendant (Chad) knew that "said human remains were about to be produced, used and/or discovered as evidence in a felony proceeding, inquiry, and/or investigation authorized by law, with the intent to prevent it from being so produced, used...

Lots of good questions here that I am curious about myself. IIRC, in MG's interview with Nate, she said she visited Lori sometime after Tylee went missing (Lori said Tylee was away at BYU-I) and before JJ went missing - so sometime in mid-September 2019. MG made the ominous statement that Lori...