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    GUILTY UT - Michele MacNeill, 50, found dead in bathtub, Pleasant Grove, 11 April 2007 - #7

    The jury's question provokes a couple of other thoughts. Was there a mortgage on the house with both Michele and Martin as signatories; Was there mortgage insurance
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    GUILTY UT - Michele MacNeill, 50, found dead in bathtub, Pleasant Grove, 11 April 2007 - #7

    Don't mean to be flippant and I'm not trying to joke around about a serious matter, but tomorrow BYU plays Wisconsin. I suspect more than one juror would like to watch the game and that means, if possible, reach a verdict tonight.
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    GUILTY UT - Michele MacNeill, 50, found dead in bathtub, Pleasant Grove, 11 April 2007 - #7

    According to Twitter, attorneys on way back to courthouse as jury has question(s).
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    GUILTY UT - Michele MacNeill, 50, found dead in bathtub, Pleasant Grove, 11 April 2007 - #7

    Watching this trial with the benefit of all the fine people here on Websleuths has been fascinating. Without the many helpful comments here on this forum -- whether they be legal, medical, anecdotal, or perspective -- there is absolutely no way I could have come to the degree of understanding...
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    GUILTY UT - Michele MacNeill, 50, found dead in bathtub, Pleasant Grove, 11 April 2007 - #7

    As a juror, I would not require much time. I would want to review Perper's medical info and conclusions about myocarditis; I would want to once again read the testimony from the cardiologist; I would want to review the timeline. That could be done w/in 3-4 hours. The circumstantial &...
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    GUILTY UT - Michele MacNeill, 50, found dead in bathtub, Pleasant Grove, 11 April 2007 - #7

    And certainly not a few days after an extensive facelift.
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    GUILTY UT - Michele MacNeill, 50, found dead in bathtub, Pleasant Grove, 11 April 2007 - #7

    Twitter - According to Ben Winslow, Spencer always smiles - in every case which Winslow has seen him.
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    GUILTY UT - Michele MacNeill, 50, found dead in bathtub, Pleasant Grove, 11 April 2007 - #7

    The smiling is really weird. I'm sure he is trying to come across as friendly and benign, but it is so, so odd.
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    GUILTY UT - Michele MacNeill, 50, found dead in bathtub, Pleasant Grove, 11 April 2007 - #7

    What is he trying to say? He just said that postmortem blood testing is not reliable but that the postmortem blood testing done by his own ME is reliable?? They used the same data.
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    GUILTY UT - Michele MacNeill, 50, found dead in bathtub, Pleasant Grove, 11 April 2007 - #7

    On the very day of Michelle's death he was talking about getting a nanny. I didn't realize that.
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    GUILTY UT - Michele MacNeill, 50, found dead in bathtub, Pleasant Grove, 11 April 2007 - #7

    I can't think of anything that I would say was a lie from Rachel. Alexis - I think she "shaded" the truth when she talked about obtaining medical information about her mother as obtained by her friend who is an MD. Whether she received the medical records or simply limited info, I don't...
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    GUILTY UT - Michele MacNeill, 50, found dead in bathtub, Pleasant Grove, 11 April 2007 - #7

    If I were a juror, I would want to examine the evidence on 2 things: Question 1. Did Michelle die as a result of myocarditis as was given as cause of death by 1st ME? Answer 1: No. Dr. Perper conclusively showed w/ empirical evidence that there was no myocarditis. He showed slides of heart...
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    GUILTY UT - Michele MacNeill, 50, found dead in bathtub, Pleasant Grove, 11 April 2007 - #6

    The tears he shed while his own love letters were being read were more tears than he shed at Michelle's funeral.
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    GUILTY UT - Michele MacNeill, 50, found dead in bathtub, Pleasant Grove, 11 April 2007 - #6

    I'm with you - I don't like it either. I also cannot abide NG show.
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    GUILTY UT - Michele MacNeill, 50, found dead in bathtub, Pleasant Grove, 11 April 2007 - #6

    And the whole message thing was too weird… "I'll come home and we will have a lovely lunch".
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    GUILTY UT - Michele MacNeill, 50, found dead in bathtub, Pleasant Grove, 11 April 2007 - #6

    Mere speculation on my part, but I think MM substituted the narcotics for other prescribed medication. Michelle was routinely taking Premarin and something for the mild hypertension. Additionally, she was taking a course of antibiotics during her recovery from surgery as well as a stool...
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    GUILTY UT - Michele MacNeill, 50, found dead in bathtub, Pleasant Grove, 11 April 2007 - #6

    From what I'm reading, State not going for lesser included charges (manslaughter). They are seeking conviction on charge of Felony Murder (w/ premeditation or w/ depraved indifference).
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    GUILTY UT - Michele MacNeill, 50, found dead in bathtub, Pleasant Grove, 11 April 2007 - #6

    I hope Giselle MacNeill is taking civil action against Gypsy Willis for the identity fraud.

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