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    TX - Hailey Dunn, 13, Colorado City, 27 Dec 2010 - #16

    Yes, thanks for the response, that's what I was thinking too. It doesn't sound like they are questioning that 6:20 AM leave time for BD, but saying they have witnesses makes me wonder who was around at 6:20 AM to verify it. I wondered about SA tearing back from work in time to give BD the car...
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    TX - Hailey Dunn, 13, Colorado City, 27 Dec 2010 - #16

    Respectfully snipped above. How would this work with only one car? I've been reading all the threads on this case since the very beginning, but have sick kids right now, so had to skim some stuff last night and may have missed this, but the car is confusing me right now. Did BD have another...
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    DC - Ashley Turton, 37, lobbyist, found dead in burning car, 10 Jan 2011

    Thus far, that doesn't sound like a credible explanation at all. I'm still baffled as to how a low-speed crash could cause the car to burst into flames (something that rarely happens even with high-speed crashes) or incapacitate her to the point where she wouldn't get out of the car. I realize...
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    DC - Ashley Turton, 37, lobbyist, found dead in burning car, 10 Jan 2011

    I saw this story on the news tonight and thought it sounded very strange too. I'm really baffled how anyone could have an accident backing out of their own garage that would cause their car to explode. Isn't that what is being implied at this point? And why wouldn't she have tried to get out...
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    TX - Hailey Dunn, 13, Colorado City, 27 Dec 2010 - #6

    While I agree it is important that this be cleared up, if it is an error, there were a number of smaller errors in the show tonight that were kind of cracking me up--NG was talking about Chet Atkins at one point (instead of SA) and SaraBeth instead of MB. And with the time delay, BO probably...
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    TX - Hailey Dunn, 13, Colorado City, 27 Dec 2010 - #6

    I do not think that she failed because she is covering for him, I think it is much more likely that she failed because having just found out that SA had failed the test right before her test, she felt guilty for dating him and bringing him into her children's lives--whether or not SA actually...
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    TX - Hailey Dunn, 13, Colorado City, 27 Dec 2010 - #5

    What about the father and his girlfriend--have there been any reports of them taking polys? It seems like they would be included just because they are family and close by. I wonder whether any friends of the brother or any of Hailey's friends have taken any? Billie's statement seems to imply...
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    GUILTY CA - Ana De Ceja, 26, slain, infant son abducted, Planada, 2 Dec 2010

    What utter evil. They have their own children, yet callously ripped this family apart. The level of disregard for life is astounding--it sounds like they thought they could go to the mall to steal a new toy and then discard it when it didn't work out for them. How could you look your own...
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    NY-Long Island-Four bodies found on Beach-Possible Serial Killer-Dec 2010 #1

    This article also describes Cruz as Waterman's pimp, rather than her boyfriend, as other articles had called him. He may have been both, but it seems more important to know that he was her pimp. Also her mother seems to think he knows what happened to her.
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    NY-Long Island-Four bodies found on Beach-Possible Serial Killer-Dec 2010 #1

    Is there a Websleuths thread on Megan Waterman? I'm curious to know how she was separated from her boyfriend on this trip. Was it a vacation for them or was she working as a prostitute while they were there together? I haven't had a chance to look for old news reports on Waterman, but I'm...
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    NY-Long Island-Four bodies found on Beach-Possible Serial Killer-Dec 2010 #1

    Yikes! That sure seems like a lot of unidentified human remains turning up on Long Island! They sound like different MOs, but the headless and hand-less torsos are pretty bizarre and awful (and sound rather similar). The girl who was identified through her tattoo sounded more like some of these...
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    FL - Clay Duke fired shots, killed self at Panama City school board meeting

    By this report, it was NOT a cap gun. The gunman fired real bullets--he just missed, thankfully! It's hard to believe he missed at that close range, but it almost looked like he didn't really want to hit them--the way he was waving it around. He did kill himself with the same gun too, though, I...
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    NY-Long Island-Four bodies found on Beach-Possible Serial Killer-Dec 2010 #1

    Anyone know any women reported missing in the last month in this area?
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    NY-Long Island-Four bodies found on Beach-Possible Serial Killer-Dec 2010 #1

    Yes, I agree--this story is really confusing! It's not clear at all what "location" they are talking about, since the truck part would imply that it is not Fire Island, but the running to neighboring houses wouldn't really fit the dump spot area. And why, if the police had all this info and this...
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    NY-Long Island-Four bodies found on Beach-Possible Serial Killer-Dec 2010 #1

    Actually, you can walk into the residential area of Fire Island from Robert Moses State Park--we did it this summer. It's about a 1/2 mile walk on a sandy road--and at some times of year that road is open to car traffic--up to the town of Kismet (I think that's to allow people to ferry supplies...
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    NY-Long Island-Four bodies found on Beach-Possible Serial Killer-Dec 2010 #1

    This is very creepy. And so close to the public beaches! My family and I were at beaches very close by this summer. I've seen/heard some conflicting reports as to whether the bodies were buried or just thrown into the brush. One of the recent articles posted said it looked like they were thrown...
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    GUILTY OH - Two women & child killed, 13yo abducted, Apple Valley, 10 Nov 2010 #7

    Probably also to keep people from fooling around with it and being generally disrespectful, I would guess. (these posts refer to them cutting the tree down)
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    GUILTY OH - Two women & child killed, 13yo abducted, Apple Valley, 10 Nov 2010 #7

    Sorry to quote my own post, but just wanted to add that I saw this discussed on the FB discussions page and it was not Catfish Billy who said it--at least that wasn't his log in name on that page. But I can't remember what it was (something ordinary, I think). I do think that someone who knows...
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    GUILTY OH - Two women & child killed, 13yo abducted, Apple Valley, 10 Nov 2010 #7

    I saw a local poster on FB talking about it in the discussions section a day or two before the bodies were found. They were having a similar discussion to the one we had here about how MH was obsessed with trees and that maybe the searchers should be looking up instead of on the ground and in...
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    GUILTY OH - Two women & child killed, 13yo abducted, Apple Valley, 10 Nov 2010 #7

    It's taken me a long time to get caught up from being gone today. This was not at all the outcome I was praying for, but I'm thankful at least that they were all found. What an incredible tragedy and what a bizarre crime! It seems that there are a lot of unusual aspects to this crime. One the...

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