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  1. SoBu

    CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #10

    On the chance that the “trash” may be relevant. They wouldn’t take those guys’ word for it that it’s not PF’s trash.
  2. SoBu

    CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #10

    Sadly, I had already been thinking that the terrain in that area could make it incredibly difficult to ever find a body.:(
  3. SoBu

    CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #10

    Or he didn’t want the others towing/using his trailer. Maybe even helping them out by transporting their stuff, but didn’t want to loan them the trailer. Unlikely, but possible. Btw, I am highly suspicious of him.
  4. SoBu

    CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #9

    LE has more information than we do. Their decisions are undoubtedly based on their information.
  5. SoBu

    CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #8

    We are definitely short on facts to do much reasoning! I think that frustrating for all of us. Not to be difficult but where is it confirmed that PF is a full time, or even frequent farrier in the last year or so of his life? It’s also said that he does other things to make money. Her mother...
  6. SoBu

    CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #7

    But if that happened and her ex fiancé isn’t acting as we would hope/expect, isn’t that difficult to fathom?
  7. SoBu

    CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #7

    Or some parents don’t want the baby touching the germy shopping carts
  8. SoBu

    CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #5

    Actually, didn’t PF allegedly say that he picked their child up in the afternoon and her mom says that KB said they’d be going out for dinner? So, conflicting or changed plans?
  9. SoBu

    GUILTY CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *CW LWOP* #62

    Your point is well made here. It’s SO hard to fathom! Is it also the serious money problems on top of all this a common factor FAs just can’t see beyond and their brains having such an unrealistic view of the likelihood of getting away with it?
  10. SoBu

    Found Deceased CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *CW GUILTY* #47

    Now that it seems apparent the evidence against him is likely overwhelming, do you think that explains no high profile lawyers taking the case?
  11. SoBu

    Found Deceased ME - Kristin Westra, 47, North Yarmouth, 30 Sept 2018

    So it sounds like some of you see this as a battle she had been fighting for much longer than we have evidence of and that she kept it from everyone but her husband? So sad any way the situation evolved. I personally feel that medications may have helped had she given them a try. By what her...
  12. SoBu

    Found Deceased ME - Kristin Westra, 47, North Yarmouth, 30 Sept 2018

    Like several have said, it’s difficult to put ourselves in the mind of a person who commits suicide (if that’s what this was) and I also have the question about why a thoughtful, organized person like Kristin was (by all accounts) would potentially put her family through all those days of...
  13. SoBu

    Found Deceased ME - Kristin Westra, 47, North Yarmouth, 30 Sept 2018

    It’s my understanding she is originally from VT and her parents still live there.
  14. SoBu

    Found Deceased CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #20

    There just plain seems to be a pattern of excessive home purchases, and spending in general. SW may have been naive about finances, but she certainly didn’t deserve to be murdered!
  15. SoBu

    Found Deceased CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #20

    There didn’t appear to be significant equity in the home in NC if I followed earlier info correctly?
  16. SoBu

    CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #17

    It’s got to be extremely painful for Laci’s mother, Sharon, to hear about this story. Maybe she could be of support to Shanann’s family if she felt inclined, but probably just too painful.
  17. SoBu

    CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #14

    I’ve thought it could be significant, but also possibly something as innocent as a shaving nick.
  18. SoBu

    CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #10

    I truly believe he killed them all, and if that is the case, hope that the evidence removes reasonable doubt from the minds of all the jurors. I’m sorry if this has already been discussed but are there any cases of a spouse murdering the other spouse in response to witnessing, or even coming...
  19. SoBu

    Found Deceased CO - Shanann Watts (34), Celeste"Cece" (3) and Bella (4), Frederick, 13 Aug 2018 *Arrest* #5

    Probably not relevant to case, but why in the world was he doing a PowerPoint presentation on “relationships”years ago? Was it for a college class?

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