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First I hear of this ..."a phone belonging to Townsend was found underneath the driver's side of the victim's SUV"

I can hardly keep up. Between this and my present work deadline, my head is spinning. This trial has been one heck of a ride, and not in a good way.

How tragic for a rich privileged tone deaf socialite somebody to become a felon nobody. Not. Deserved.

Caught up. Wow ! I was afraid of this, nearly kind of expected this yesterday. I was so sure before it would be a NG verdict before deliberations, in less than 2 days. It's reminded me now of another trial a while back, but I cannot remember which one. The holdout for guilty spoke out after the...

But an iPhone is not worn, so if it was thrown it would not register steps.

Do we know the composition of the jury? Professions?

snipped for focus. That's what we said yesterday lol. If no verdict tomorrow, can we say they're sleeping on it for 2 days?

Well heck, tomorrow is Friday. If the jury does not come to a verdict before the weekend, then I think there's some contention and disagreement in there, a holdout or two. Just my feeling.

Rather than the phone being taken back out by someone, would the phone register steps if it was thrown out from the door/porch? I don't think so.

What perplexes me is that other than an article in the LA Times a while back is that there is no mention of Eric Calibet missing in our South Bay local news nor in the Hermosa Patch paper. Nothing. Given he is a resident of Hermosa Beach, a smallish community, and still works part time in LE...

Was the jury present during that exchange between the judge and Jackson?

Yes. And reading the verdict and polling each juror does take time. The juror needed to leave. We will see tomorrow, if there's no verdict in the morning and deliberations go on into the next day....then there will be concern.

I fear there's a hold out.

Iirc, there was a little used door leading outside from that little room under the house. (The room accessed from a steep stairway under a counter area.) I think when that door was discussed, it was postulated that Summer perhaps went out through that door. That morphed into maybe she went down...

The Barranco de Juan Lopez trail; Stunning landscape. As the video progresses, it's a tough and dangerous trail. If Jay took this and got lost up there, it's really not good. Very difficult and rugged area to search. (video starts fuzzy, but very sharp thereafter)

For Pete's sakes. If there was tension in the family regarding her transition, then move away ! Leave and live your life elsewhere. She is 28 years old ! Just leave. So now she will be in prison for the rest of her life, with no freedom at all. Horrible and senseless.

^ "Special Needs".....so that doesn't mean she gets special perks? Better not ! Will she share a cell with a roommate, or not because of her "special needs". I'd prefer this woman to be in the general population, drama or not. Let her be put in her place by the little people felons !

bbm, & snipped for focus. He is from Hermosa Beach, reported earlier. I noticed because I live in the same area...5 miles away or so. Hermosa Beach is a beach community. We don't have the extreme dry heat you'd have inland. Likely most of what he dealt with were water and (cliff rescues where I...

Or even in the US. They need to investigate where these guys have been prior to living in that apartment location, and whether any unsolved predatory crimes have occurred where they were or travelled. Much like in the Rachel Morin case.

Should never have happened. Jocelyn just wanted a soda. WTH were these monsters thinking? CCTV everywhere, of course they'd be identified and apprehended. And there was evidence in their apartment. 21 and 26, their lives are over, prison for life. Poor sweet child, she should be home with her...