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    Totally understand and respect what you are saying Astrokitty... like many others have said, you area great help on all of this and I really appreciate your posts
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    I agree with genericwhite male ... not connected. Do you remember the year of those Chicago murders Astro? I'm just interested to see if they did get anyone for those ... Obviously not to do with this case (Sorry mods!) ... Just out of interest.
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    Possible Victim: Natasha Jugo, 31, Queens, Body Washed Ashore and belongings found on Gilgo Beach Mar 2013 *car fnd Ocean Pkwy*

    Anybody read/watched any updates on Natasha? Being in the UK we've had zilch but am just wondering if there are any LI Locals have seen/heard anything on the local news? Thanks guys :)
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    Like I always say, I think Shannon uncovered the LISK but I think that's maybe where it ends.JMO but in this crazy crazy case who knows? If MP did kill Shannon, I can only think it wasn't premeditated and it was an argument over moneythat got out of hand. Didn't he say in that interview that he...
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    I agree... it's just mindblowing. For my research I tend to work with Microsoft OneNote ... It's made things so much easier for me. JMO. I also tend to go for documentaries and interviews when it comes to he said she said stuff. If I can SEE a mother/sister etc. saying stuff then that's that...
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    How awful. Just horrible. How terrified these two poor girls must have been in their last moments. Were these cases ever covered in the media?
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    Doh... Sorry ..my bad. I'm catching up on this threads last 24hrs and just noticed someone posted the link to Americas Serial Killer. I still don't think SG is linked to G4 but everytime I see MP's ermming amd aahing to what SG said to him that night (ermmm... what diud she say... ermmm... oh...
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    IIRC I think you are talking about the programme called 'Americas Serial Killer'
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    I was the nodder and smiler but NOT in an opiate kinda way! LMAO! I agree, I'm really thankful to AstroKitty for her useful insights into the streets and it's lifestyle and terms. And yes, trying to work on the whole lot is a no, no unless you want a headache! lol! Found that out months...
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    GUILTY UK - Fusilier Lee Rigby, 25, brutally murdered, Woolwich, 22 May 2013

    I think you're right Sarahlou. I'm sure I read in one of the papers that they thought the murderers had spent the past week driving round near the army base looking for potential victims to follow
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    This is why the Natasha Jugo thing worried me a little ... when a family member said Natasha thought she was being followed. That's another story though and we just don't have hardly any info on this poor girl. Anyways guys ... It's getting light over here and my eyes have had it! My blinks...
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    I've always thought that these girls (GB4) were probably more naïve than we think. These weren't streetwise streetwalkers. They hadn't been in the game for years. ALC saw her sisters car and money and thought Hey this is easy! I also think they somehow thought Craigslist would be safer than...
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    ALC was picked up close to home after that last call.
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    Thanks for the insights Kitty. Drugs are one thing I proudly admit to being naieve about. I only really know snippets from here and there
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    I'm just sitting here reading this nodding and smiling. I've always thought he is telling these girls something to impress them be it huge money/drugs/celebrity sex ... whatever floats there boat. These are girls with no agencies. At least one of them was relatively new to the game.
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    JMO but I think maybe these girls have hung out with him before ... that's how he gains their confidence
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    Schaller heard her talking prices from the next room ... Do you see what I'm saying? Yes, "hamming up" is the word he used. Hmmm makes you think doesn't it?
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    Actually, that's just set my mind going.... a friend of mines brother got mixed up in drugs and she used to say how devious it had made him e.g. saying he was going here/doing this when he was actually going to score drugs. Made me think... I know MW said she was going to the gas station and...
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    I often wonder if ALC believed she was seeing this caller for drugs and not sex. The roommate said she acted totally differently when going out on this call. If she thought she was going to just make a deal for some drugs she wouldn't necessarily have acted the way she did when she went out for...
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    I think it was a Holiday Inn Express @ Happauge

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