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Very interesting! Would make a lot of sense.

My apologies. I meant the Christmas newsletter where it appears. My point was that the "and hence" phrase is often used as proof Patsy wrote the ransom note. But actually, the only person we can state with toal certainty who ever used that phrase was John when he gave the newseum interview in...

Right. But they also wanted to avoid going to jail hence the note and its instructions. So why call the police when there was a dead body in the house as opposed to getting the body out of the house -- something clearly possible considering the note itself gave leeway to do this what with its...

Thanks for the info. But we would need to establish how familiar she was with that terminology. Similarly, just playing devil's advocate -- why would Patsy use that terminology in a ransom note? Was it to frame John? Why those words? If she and John were in it together, why draw attention to...

Happy to help Linda. Although, as I'm sure you're aware, I'll probably change my mind again in a few hours such is this case. lol.

I used to think that too. But read the note again and look specifically at key words: "monitor" "execution" "scanned" "electronic" and "device" are computer terms. John Ramsey worked in the computer business.Not Patsy. The 'and hence' phrase which is now an infamous phrase in this case...

Quotes by UKGuy As you please. The R's incised JonBenet's tombstone with 12/25/1996, not 12/26/1996. Anyway our discussion is precisely why you cannot use the ransom note to infer anything about the death of JonBenet, since it is staged forensic evidence, if you do not get that. then you can...

That's all possible. They could have lied because he was involved somehow. Absolutely. Or because they were scared he knew something about them and so were trying 'remove him' from interrogation to save their own skin. Maybe they were worried about what he may know. I agree with you. This...

But the Ramseys eventually admitted Burke was awake in the morning. There's a very obvious reason why they may have lied -- they loved Burke, knew he was innocent and didn't want him interrogated. Something I can imagine lots of parents doing. He was only a 9 year old boy. It was easier to...

Thought provoking points Steely. Personally, I think think the plan was to get the body out of the house 'and hence' make the abduction/kidnapping scenario plausible. I therefore think having the body in the house when the cops were called wasn't part of the plan by the culprit -- meaning Patsy...

You know, how we would react in theory and how we react in practice can be two different things. I used to be on board the Patsy did it train. Even a few 'log-ins' ago I felt this way. But what if, on reading the note Patsy went into a panic, couldn't function and called the police? The...

The Ramseys returned home on the 25th. The 'small foreign faction' as implied in the note, was wrote the note for someone's benefit: in this case, the first point of contact HAD to be the parents since the note came from the home. If the note says "tomorrow" in reference to the ransom etc it...

This is all true. But what if the ransom note was only meant to be seen/used for the benefit of one of the parents and convincing them? What if the police call by Patsy was never meant to happen? The ransom note says "tomorrow" in reference to when the 'kidnappers' would call. Because this...

I know there has been claims that 3 voices are on the 911 call: Patsy, John and Burke. Some claim to have heard it. Some cannot hear it. But is the fact that the Ramseys changed their original story from Burke being asleep to being awake that morning perhaps evidence of the fact they were...

Thank you Dodie. I could totally buy the rage theory. It could have happened like that. Absolutely. But I just feel I have to speculate on too many things. I have to assume a person would go into a rage. I'd then have to assume that person then had at hand a (flashlight?) and used it...

All of those things you mention absolutely could have happened. But for me personally, I just try to remove as much speculation as possible. To entertain the 'bed wetting' theory means I have to invent the idea that one of the parents, probably Patsy, would indeed go into a rage over such an...

I don't truly believe the sexual injuries were staging if I was to put a theory on the line.I don't believe as some do that the cellulose found was proof that a paintbrush handle was used to penetrate for example.It could represent contamination from the garrote handle on the perps hands passed...

Yes, John wanted to possibly contaminate the body with witnesses to see it. But I don't believe he originally thought this would happen. I think he hoped to dump the body as evidenced by the ransom note and the "tomorrow" ransom call between 8-10am which would have given him a full day to dump...

Burke is an interesting candidate. But I don't truly believe he was involved.Although, I do from time to time entertain the notion. Infact, just a few days ago I was seriously trying to theorise about his involvement but such is the manner with this case that within a few hours I'm back to my...

What do profilers say: Dale Yeager of SERAPH said it was a religious/ritualistic murder. And that Patsy did it. Gregg McCrary says "in conclusion, the totality of the evidence is more consistent with an offender known to JonBenet — one who was comfortable in and familiar with the layout...