2011.06.14 Sidebar Thread (Trial Day Eighteen)

[Chilly Willy]

The jury will realize what the A's are there to do-keep Casey off DR!!And I hope they will disregard all their testimonies and rely on the scientific testimony,because that is whats telling me what happen to Caylee..JMO

I don't understand why you would hope the jury disregards the A's testimony. The A's testimony was very damning for Casey.

 

[stilettos]

They will wrap it all up in a pretty bow for the jury in closing. Just like in the opening, they will lay it out step by step this time with each piece of evidence and testimony. It will be fresh in their minds when they go in to deliberate.

Oh I think by the time the DT has their case closed...the SAO will have wiped the floor and down the hall and wrapped Casey Anthony up in a Lowell Bow.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

The prosecution doesn't need to tie anything together until closing. In fact, they'd be idiots to do it now before they hear the DT's case. Moreover, they may put on more evidence during their rebuttal and begin tying it up for the jury then and button it up on closing.

The SA hasn't blown anything if their peers are to be believed, the SA are doing a brilliant job.

That said, I agree with you about Mr George. I like him, but I feel like he dropped the ball with the tat guy.

I watched that last question Mr. George asked and it came from Ashton. If he had gone into the fact she said she would bring Caylee the next appt on the 19th then Jose would have just said that is how crazy and delusional the poor little girl is. Just all mixed up from the trauma of the drowning.

 

[LancelotLink]

I wanted to mention it, but wasn't sure anyone else had caught this. IMO, the chair was already low. I will try to locate it while rewatching today's events on WFTV.

I would appreciate seeing it again. It was really quick, but seems they made a point of showing it. The chair seemed low to me as well, but she reached down and lowered it three times. And the way she did this seemed like she was preparing for the stage lights to come up, or the jury to come in...makeup, check...tissues, check...lower chair to look small and helpless, check.

 

[sleutherontheside]

While I am left wanting "more" from the SA...I remind myself that they only use what they need, and what will advance their case.

Some of the extra icing could open the door for doubt and so I trust that they did not use what they didn't need.

If the DT opts to put on a defense......is there not still room for the SA to use some of the yet to be presented info to impeach witnesses, disprove theories, and during cross examination?

 

[LyndyLoo]

Don't forget we still have the SA's rebuttal to come!

I would like to mention too..that SA will tie all the facts into an nice organized package (connect all the dots) that show exactly how this all went down and who is responsible and how the facts consistently point to just one person...then the rest will be up to the jury to decide from there..JMOO

ETA~~ What I really like about "Closing Arguments" is that when giving their summations that cannot speak to anything that has NOT been testimony...In other words..JB cannot miss state evidence..maybe spin it..but cannot miss state..

 

[strawberry]

I think I feel kind of like I do when I see a movie after I've read the book...the book always has so much more to it. IT's hard to know this case inside out and I want the jury to know just as much.

 

[sleutherontheside]

A few snips I grabbed today.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

can someone explain the photobucket situation? it was entered in/stipulated to but no one actually presents it???

I think it had a bunch of pictures in it that had been ruled out for use in the trial. I am not sure what is going on with it.

 

[JusticeSeeker1960]

With all due respect CA offered that tidbit when it wasn't what LDB asked of her. She never asked her who drove the car. She threw it out there. It had nothing to do with what LDB asked at that time. GA might haven driven the car back to the house from the tow yard but her testimony appeared to imply that GA routinely drives the car on occasion. Which I personally think is a little disingenuous.

She didn't need to offer such testimony she just needed to respond to LDB question and leave it at that. It was clear she was attempting to give the DT a few tidbits they could go from in raising reasonable doubt. That's not CA's job, that's JB's job.

Yep, she did the same thing about the duct tape, "George was using it at the time"....same ole.... ICA pitched her little pity party the day CA first testified when she saw them leave arm in arm. Someone from the DT, imo, contacted CA that night to tell her ICA was upset OR CA saw it on TV. Then, she appears to "coach" the crying. Then, today she does this. I just think it seems too coincidental.

 

[spyhouston]

IMO right now ICA is looking forward to the DT case and thinking it's all gonna be sooo great. It's really gonna be fun to watch her get madder and madder by the day, knowing the time is almost up. Then......LDB and JA knock it out of the park with their closing arguments!!! We may finally see REAL tears!

 

[SyraKelly]

I don't understand why you would hope the jury disregards the A's testimony. The A's testimony was very damning for Casey.

SOME of her testimony was damning-The family to me is NOT giving enough information when NEEDED and giving TO MUCH info when NOT NEEDED

 

[txsvicki]

Maybe I'm mistaken, but wasn't there some inconsistency between Cindy and George's testimony about the duct tape? Today Cindy said that George mentioned putting duct tape on the gas can vents when they got the cans back in December. He had testified that he put duct tape on the gas can vents after he got them out of the trunk back on June 24th. I'm probably wrong about what the two actually said, but something seems a little off.

Also: I don't see why Casey wouldn't have had access to the tape in the garage. It wouldn't have been locked up in the storage sheds unless they're trying to say that george didn't even produce any tape until much later than June.

 

[CN2Souls]

:doh:
:nevermind:

 

[BD1]

Henstly I don't even know WHAT to think about CA. I can't figure her motivation out at all.

 

[2goldfish]

Sorry if this has been mentioned, but I noticed on HLN video from the hearing showing ICA taking her chair at the defense table and then lowering it three times. Hopefully, they will show this again.

http://www.wftv.com/video/28233817/index.html

 

[suzihawk]

i think the prosecution has blown it big time.
they didn't tie anything together for the jury.
seems like they assumed the jury knows as much as we do.
also, they had no heart at all. just cold disorganized facts.
everytime they had a chance to put a nail in kc's coffin, they blew it.
like today when baez asked if people got tatoo's as a memorial, mr. george
could have followed up with, how do you have a memorial tat for someone
your bringing in sat. for a visit?
looks like the sa is just droping a ton of great evidence in the jurys lap and
saying you firgure it out, were tired an want to rest.

I have to very respectfully disagree. Yes, a lot of the testimony to this point has been cold, maybe disorganized and (some say) boring forensics and such. However, it has to be done.

Although the State has rested it's case, it is in NO WAY done. They will listen to whatever *advertiser censored*-n-bull story the Defense has concocted and will be at the ready to discredit them at every single turn. Further, they will walk through each and every door the Defense opens by accident or ineptness - and there will be plenty, IMO. And then... after they've accomplished this, they will have a two hour closing statement where all the nails will be neatly lined up and they will systematically hammer them into ICA's coffin. This is where you'll find the heart and passion of the case some seem to think the Prosecutions is lacking. It's there. I have no doubt. They're just waiting for the appropriate time to tie it all together and passionately and compassionately present it to the jury. They will tell the story of Caylee Anthony and just exactly how she died.

 

[strawberry]

Henstly I don't even know WHAT to think about CA. I can't figure her motivation out at all.

:therethere: That's a good thing!

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Yep, she did the same thing about the duct tape, "George was using it at the time"....same ole.... ICA pitched her little pity party the day CA first testified when she saw them leave arm in arm. Someone from the DT, imo, contacted CA that night to tell her ICA was upset OR CA saw it on TV. Then, she appears to "coach" the crying. Then, today she does this. I just think it seems too coincidental.

BBM. Wouldn't that be witness tampering?

 

[rotterdam]

The jury will realize what the A's are there to do-keep Casey off DR!!And I hope they will disregard all their testimonies and rely on the scientific testimony,because that is whats telling me what happen to Caylee..JMO

Am sure they will. Ditto with recommending DP. They ( the jury) will not recommend DP because of ICA's parents IMO.
And as for CA, she is just behaving naturally and will try to protect her daughter from DP. Growing up in Europe, I have an extremely hard time understanding why a parent is being forced to testify against a child and such testimony would be highly suspect anyway. Most parents will protect their child, regardless of any hideous crimes they committed. They are hard wired to behave in such a fashion unless they are sociopaths themselves..