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4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, 2022 #78
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At this point, both sides know the results of the evidence searches on BK's car, his apt., and his parents' home yet, the defense team is eager to speak with BF about possibly exculpatory evidence. IMO that means one of or a combination of the following:
1,2,and 3 above JMO, of course.
- the searches on BK's car and residence did not result in obvious, "smoking gun" evidence against him
- no victim DNA, hair, etc. in his car or home
- no electronic evidence related to the house or residents
- no GPS/cell data putting him on King Rd or on the property prior to 11/13 or on the morning of 11/14, etc.
- the defense feels there may be a procedural error that will deem the PCA inadmissible (or result in some other technical dismissal)
- they feel there are others involved in some way(wholly or partially) and hope to lessen the charges for BK by introducing the possibility of another suspect
1,2,and 3 above JMO, of course.
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I am sure there is a LOT more evidence that we don't know about. But I think some of that may help BK. We know now that there is something in BF's statement that the defense is interested in. We will see. But the FBI would not have provided counsel on the arrest. The prosecutor would not solicit nor should the FBI offer advice on that. The FBI is a law enforcement entity, not prosecutors and they have no independent jurisdiction here.
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Could be that BF maybe theorized on who the perp could be. During her LE questioning perhaps she threw out ideas on who could have done this? That creep who keeps showing up at the parties? That ex who won’t stop messaging etc etc. so that would place some doubt right?
The defense could ask if LE pinged those peoples phone that night? Checked for their dna at the scene etc…
Would make sense. Pure speculation
The defense could ask if LE pinged those peoples phone that night? Checked for their dna at the scene etc…
Would make sense. Pure speculation
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Kohberger’s former school district won’t talk. But it turned over records for Moscow case
Attorneys appear to be examining Bryan Kohberger’s academic and employment histories ahead of the defendant’s June preliminary hearing.
Subpoenaed materials are not available to the public, but Kohberger’s high school transcripts were set to be among the district’s response to January’s subpoena, according to the emails. On the advice of a school attorney, the district planned to notify Kohberger of their release to satisfy the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA), a federal law that limits handing over such records without a student’s prior consent. The law includes an exception for subpoenas.
“We cannot just turn over his student records without placing him on notice of this,” attorney Mark Fitzgerald said in a Jan. 20 email to school district leaders. “My suggestion is send a notice to the (jail) in Idaho indicating that we intend on complying with the subpoena. Obviously this is the least of his problems but we need to adhere to the law here.”
Employee personnel files do not have the same protections, Fitzgerald told the district’s human resources director, CC’ing James Konrad, the superintendent.
Konrad and Pleasant Valley High School co-principals Jonathan Ayre and Brian Boylan haven’t responded to Statesman requests for comment dating to February, including a follow-up made earlier this month.
The Statesman’s formal request for records from the school district about Kohberger’s prior employment also was partially denied. In its February response, the district said it withheld several documents, citing several Pennsylvania exemptions, including non-criminal investigations or complaints, written criticisms of an employee, or discipline, demotion or discharge records in a personnel file.
Kohberger resigned from his position in June 2021, school district records showed.
“I decided to resign or retire freely and voluntarily after considering my options …” a district resignation/retirement form letter signed by Kohberger read. “… I understand that if I do not resign, I have a right to a school board hearing to determine if I should be dismissed from employment with the school district.”
Kohberger’s former school district won’t talk. But it turned over records for Moscow case
Attorneys appear to be examining Bryan Kohberger’s academic and employment histories ahead of the defendant’s June preliminary hearing.news.yahoo.com
Subpoenaed materials are not available to the public, but Kohberger’s high school transcripts were set to be among the district’s response to January’s subpoena, according to the emails. On the advice of a school attorney, the district planned to notify Kohberger of their release to satisfy the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA), a federal law that limits handing over such records without a student’s prior consent. The law includes an exception for subpoenas.
“We cannot just turn over his student records without placing him on notice of this,” attorney Mark Fitzgerald said in a Jan. 20 email to school district leaders. “My suggestion is send a notice to the (jail) in Idaho indicating that we intend on complying with the subpoena. Obviously this is the least of his problems but we need to adhere to the law here.”
Employee personnel files do not have the same protections, Fitzgerald told the district’s human resources director, CC’ing James Konrad, the superintendent.
Konrad and Pleasant Valley High School co-principals Jonathan Ayre and Brian Boylan haven’t responded to Statesman requests for comment dating to February, including a follow-up made earlier this month.
The Statesman’s formal request for records from the school district about Kohberger’s prior employment also was partially denied. In its February response, the district said it withheld several documents, citing several Pennsylvania exemptions, including non-criminal investigations or complaints, written criticisms of an employee, or discipline, demotion or discharge records in a personnel file.
Kohberger resigned from his position in June 2021, school district records showed.
“I decided to resign or retire freely and voluntarily after considering my options …” a district resignation/retirement form letter signed by Kohberger read. “… I understand that if I do not resign, I have a right to a school board hearing to determine if I should be dismissed from employment with the school district.”
If I am reading this correctly, it sounds like BK was forced to resign in June 2021 from the school in PA where he worked, otherwise he would have to face a hearing with the school board regardig his dismissal from employment. I wonder why he was being fired.
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Yes. This is interesting.
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I think we can imagine some of the reasons. Perhaps "altercations" with a boss or other person? Unusual behavior of some sort? Sounds like they would have taken it to the Board of Trustees had he not resigned.
IMO.
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Kohberger’s former school district won’t talk. But it turned over records for Moscow case
Attorneys appear to be examining Bryan Kohberger’s academic and employment histories ahead of the defendant’s June preliminary hearing.
JMO, but is it safe to say we are all thinking the same thing here? BBM
The Statesman’s formal request for records from the school district about Kohberger’s prior employment also was partially denied. In its February response, the district said it withheld several documents, citing several Pennsylvania exemptions, including non-criminal investigations or complaints, written criticisms of an employee, or discipline, demotion or discharge records in a personnel file.
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What a bummer for his family, that he bombed out of his job at their school district where they were well known, if true he had to resign, jmo.
"Kohberger’s two older sisters attended the same school system, and their parents also spent lengthy tenures working there. Kohberger’s father retired in June 2019 after 12 1/2 years as a maintenance worker with the district, followed by his mother retiring in June 2020 after 16 years as education support staff, their school district personnel records obtained by the Statesman showed.
In the nearly four months since Kohberger was taken into custody, the Pleasant Valley School District has remained tight-lipped. That’s in spite of repeated requests for comment from more than a dozen media outlets, including the Statesman, according to email records, and the Kohberger family being well-known within the district."
https://www.bellinghamherald.com/news/state/article274755381.html
"Kohberger’s two older sisters attended the same school system, and their parents also spent lengthy tenures working there. Kohberger’s father retired in June 2019 after 12 1/2 years as a maintenance worker with the district, followed by his mother retiring in June 2020 after 16 years as education support staff, their school district personnel records obtained by the Statesman showed.
In the nearly four months since Kohberger was taken into custody, the Pleasant Valley School District has remained tight-lipped. That’s in spite of repeated requests for comment from more than a dozen media outlets, including the Statesman, according to email records, and the Kohberger family being well-known within the district."
https://www.bellinghamherald.com/news/state/article274755381.html
Are you referring to the fact that BK was dismissed from his position at the school where he worked in PA, or something else?
One thing I have found in researching this case is that there is reciprocity between UofI and WSU Pullman. In fact, students, faculty and staff at either Uni can get parking permits for both universities: Reciprocal Parking - PTS | University of Idaho
These permits are for "for students, faculty and staff participating in cooperative programs and cross listed courses."That tells me that students at both Universities can take classes at either University in the same semester and professors and other staff may work at both schools. We know BK was a TA and he was also seen at the Student Union at UofI allegedly on more than one occasion. Given that, there seems to be a possible legitimate reason for him to have been at UofI, at least between 7am and 10-11pm on week days when most classes would be taught. UofI offers a Bachelors degree in Criminology. Bachelor’s in Criminology Degree | University of Idaho.
If you are a TA, you are supposed to do whatever your professor wants/needs you to do which includes preparing the classroom for class, teaching classes, help develop assignments and tests, holding office hours, conducting labs, grading papers, tutoring, responding to student emails and even picking up and delivering materials. Is it possible BK may have been going over to UofI for his job? I want to say I am sure LE has investigated this, but there is a dearth of public information in this regard, so at best I can say at least I really hope LE has investigated this aspect of BK's life. There should definitely be a trail if this is the case such as text messages, emails, etc from the professor BK worked for to BK in regards to this.
However, what if the reason BK was at UofI the morning after the murders was something to do with his job? For example, if BK were tutoring someone at UofI would they come forward now or would we only find out about them when the defense presented their case at trial?
It has also occurred to me that his TA job may be how BK became aware of the victims.
Except as cited, all JMO.
These permits are for "for students, faculty and staff participating in cooperative programs and cross listed courses."That tells me that students at both Universities can take classes at either University in the same semester and professors and other staff may work at both schools. We know BK was a TA and he was also seen at the Student Union at UofI allegedly on more than one occasion. Given that, there seems to be a possible legitimate reason for him to have been at UofI, at least between 7am and 10-11pm on week days when most classes would be taught. UofI offers a Bachelors degree in Criminology. Bachelor’s in Criminology Degree | University of Idaho.
If you are a TA, you are supposed to do whatever your professor wants/needs you to do which includes preparing the classroom for class, teaching classes, help develop assignments and tests, holding office hours, conducting labs, grading papers, tutoring, responding to student emails and even picking up and delivering materials. Is it possible BK may have been going over to UofI for his job? I want to say I am sure LE has investigated this, but there is a dearth of public information in this regard, so at best I can say at least I really hope LE has investigated this aspect of BK's life. There should definitely be a trail if this is the case such as text messages, emails, etc from the professor BK worked for to BK in regards to this.
However, what if the reason BK was at UofI the morning after the murders was something to do with his job? For example, if BK were tutoring someone at UofI would they come forward now or would we only find out about them when the defense presented their case at trial?
It has also occurred to me that his TA job may be how BK became aware of the victims.
Except as cited, all JMO.
From same link, what I am reading:
Former Pleasant Valley security supervisor George Curcio hired Kohberger for his school district position. He told the Statesman that he remembered Kohberger as reserved, courteous and polite — a reliable employee for whom he couldn’t recall ever receiving a complaint.
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During Kohberger’s tenure with the school district, he earned an associate’s degree in psychology in May 2018 from Northampton Community College in eastern Pennsylvania, according to a school commencement list. He went on to graduate with a bachelor’s degree in psychology from DeSales University in June 2020.
A year later, when Kohberger resigned from his weekend security job, Curcio said, Kohberger told him he was going back to school full time.
Is it possible the form that BK signed with his resignation is a standard form and 'The Statesman' is making something out of nothing?
“I decided to resign or retire freely and voluntarily after considering my options …” a district resignation/retirement form letter signed by Kohberger read. “… I understand that if I do not resign, I have a right to a school board hearing to determine if I should be dismissed from employment with the school district.”
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I was a little to vague, eh? Sorry. Yes, I am referring to his dismissal and the documents they withheld citing some of PA's exemptions. I'm sensing a pattern, as I am sure others do as well (IMO of course).
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None of them was working for the school/district at the time, so while they may have been disappointed unless he did something newsworthy, I doubt it was a big deal for them. It does not appear that whatever it was was criminal. Since he ultimately resigned, it's possible that they did not know the true circumstances.
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There were multiple resignations at the same time BK resigned:
www.tnonline.com
Pleasant Valley loses 2 principals | Times News Online
The Pleasant Valley School Board approved the resignations of both the high school and intermediate school principals at its meeting on Thursday night. High school Principal Matthew Triolo and interm...
www.tnonline.com
Sounds to me like possibly some employees resigned so that some forty of their fellow employees would not have to be 'furloughed', or perhaps just in support of them?There were multiple resignations at the same time BK resigned:
Pleasant Valley loses 2 principals | Times News Online
The Pleasant Valley School Board approved the resignations of both the high school and intermediate school principals at its meeting on Thursday night. High school Principal Matthew Triolo and interm...
High school Principal Matthew Triolo and intermediate school Principal Todd Breiner are among 15 other employees whose resignations were also approved.
The others include Hillary Atkinson, a teacher at the elementary school; Bryan Kohberger, a security officer; three substitute paraprofessional associates, four substitute secretaries; five substitute teachers; and a casual security officer.
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Aministrative positions were among those being looked at in May when the school district's former superintendent, Lee Lesisko, proposed furloughing 40 employees.
After his abrupt retirement in early June, the school board rescinded the possible furloughs. The school board said furloughs were not completely off the table, but were not being considered at this time. They wanted to wait see if enrollment numbers would return to pre-pandemic levels.
Pleasant Valley loses 2 principals | Times News Online
The Pleasant Valley School Board approved the resignations of both the high school and intermediate school principals at its meeting on Thursday night. High school Principal Matthew Triolo and interm...
www.tnonline.com
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Thank you for the context. Another reminder of why the details and not just the headlines are important.Sounds to me like possibly some employees resigned so that some forty of their fellow employees would not have to be 'furloughed', or perhaps just in support of them?
High school Principal Matthew Triolo and intermediate school Principal Todd Breiner are among 15 other employees whose resignations were also approved.
The others include Hillary Atkinson, a teacher at the elementary school; Bryan Kohberger, a security officer; three substitute paraprofessional associates, four substitute secretaries; five substitute teachers; and a casual security officer.
....
Aministrative positions were among those being looked at in May when the school district's former superintendent, Lee Lesisko, proposed furloughing 40 employees.
After his abrupt retirement in early June, the school board rescinded the possible furloughs. The school board said furloughs were not completely off the table, but were not being considered at this time. They wanted to wait see if enrollment numbers would return to pre-pandemic levels.
Pleasant Valley loses 2 principals | Times News Online
The Pleasant Valley School Board approved the resignations of both the high school and intermediate school principals at its meeting on Thursday night. High school Principal Matthew Triolo and interm...
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This is where I’m at with this theory.
I can reason seeing a guy wearing a COVID mask making his exit from a home accustomed to the comings and goings of roommates, friends, SOs, and the occasional party goers they host. I can even reason brushing off the appearance of said guy following the commotion that prompted DM to get out of bed. But if I opened my bedroom door in the dead of the night and saw a guy in a Tyvek suit (who I have to imagine kept the hood propped up over his head and had his shoes wrapped in booties to have even gone the route of the protective suit in the first place) with the COVID mask looking like an out of place painter/exterminator/mechanic/whatever, I would definitely find THAT bizarre enough to remember.
That’s just me though.
/jmo
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He was TA'ing for Criminal Justice 101. One of the victims would have had to take that class at WSU, which we've never heard. Tutoring early on a Sunday morning seems odd to me, really. I've never heard of private tutoring by a TA (what a big chance for liability) esp. when it involves going to the student's house. Very unprofessional.
He needed to be in Pullman most mornings, for his actual TA job, which requires attending the class. Taking on a separate job tutoring some students (but not others) would be very much frowned on, most places I've worked. TA's have the rubrics and quiz answers, it's inappropriate to share with one student and not others (I'd see it as a kind of bribe, frankly). Both of these universities have separate, free tutoring through their tutorial centers.
All of the things you list, that a TA must do, would be based in Pullman, for BK. He was not TA'ing at UofI. Sure, his parking pass might work there (and they probably have reciprocal library usage). He can certainly say he was at UofI those 11-12 times he was in the neighborhood of 1122 because he parked there and walked to the library or whatever.
It's possible he met one or more of the victims in any number of ways. I personally believe he was trying to socialize with the undergraduate crowd, possibly drawn to UofI because he did not work there.
I do think that if anyone living near 1122 King was being tutored on a Sunday morning, that knowledge would be in LE/State possession by now. But the chances of any of the 150 or so CJ 101 students living in that neighborhood are, to me, very small.
Is CJ a cooperative or cross-listed program? The WSU catalog doesn't indicate that, IMO.
All opinion.
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