My reply to Megnut may help. I link back to my real estate photo deep dive from a few threads ago.
1122tour.com
MOO house lights to see were likely left on.
Agree he knew where the upstairs bedroom was, MOO probaby info he could have put together from outside stalking.
Thank you. Great clarification. That little step is from the hallway outside DM's door into the living room so BK would not have encountered it until he went after X & E. Looks like it might cause a stumble but not a pratfall to me. When he entered the sliding door in the kitchen & went upstairs, that little step would not have been in his path. I don't consider that one step into the living room to be adjacent to X's door. But YMMV.I'm reporting this post in case the site isn't allowed. It's the only one that makes it easier IMHO, Moo for me to see and understand the layout of the house. And I still have to go back to it fairly often to see specific things. I tend to hit the pause button and click on the rooms at my own pace. And two huge bonuses: one can view a couple of rooms in the dark, and one can zoom in, zoom out, and rotate the images to get a realistic view of what one would see from specific vantage points. To me the layout of this house isn't logical or intuitive, and I know I'd fail big time even if I'd looked at other floor plans, etc before hand. For that reason I believe the killer had been in the house before - possibly crashing a party. It's not logical or practical to go inside this particular house cold (or to know where any of the rooms were except for Maddie's becuase of her boots and M in her window).
The link:
1122 King Road, Moscow, Idaho Tour
You're welcome. It really is the only way I'm able to understand where everyone was and the path he might have taken - and the path he had to have taken at certain points. And you're right, he could have avoided the step if he hadn't gone into Xana's room, and the step was just outside DM's room (not Xena's). IMHO
The article says the items were found in his car at his parent's home, PA. The article is a bit all over the place, but that's the bottom line.
www.newsnationnow.com
I agree with you. I very much dislike that sort of wordplay. If you have the goods, you don't need to get cute with how you write it.
It could also be that he had fake ID's for himself hiding his real identity.The article says the items were found in his car at his parent's home, PA. The article is a bit all over the place, but that's the bottom line.
The article ends in melodramatic fashion, with Coffindaffer calling it a "smoking license" and Geragos saying it would be a "hurdle" for the defense if presented in court, but (imo) those statements are only true if they found a victim's ID. The police wouldn't confirm details for them, so either their source wouldn't say whose ID it was or the police found a bunch of BK's old ID's and newsnation is full of it. I will admit that it seems very odd to me for anyone to keep a collection of their own old IDs in a glove, in a box, in their car. Why fill up your car's glove box with something like that?
I also can't see someone keeping one victim's ID bound together with a bunch of their own old IDs. So now I'm wondering who all these IDs belonged to. Maybe he collected lady's IDs. I think it was @10ofRods who suggested he was a "hot prowler", which I believe is someone who enters someone else's home while the owner is there, often asleep.
Incoming speculation: A new scenario has suddenly occurred to me. I wonder if he has a history of identifying women that are out of his league, hot prowling them (remembering him asking wait staff where they live), staring at them while they sleep, taking their IDs and some other things as trophies, etc. He might follow them home, watch them, and build up to the hot prowling. He might have even had a uniform for this, that included a knife. He might have found it exciting. I can see that making a somewhat invisible person feel powerful. He might have escalated to the point that killing became inevitable, and he the way things unfolded, he ending up killing more people than he planned for. Or maybe he didn't plan to kill anyone that night and Xana being awake, or the two girls being in the same room together, started a chain reaction he lost control of. <end speculation> MOOoooo
Sources: ID from Idaho killings found in Kohberger home searches
“It’s a big deal. That is a smoking license,” retired FBI agent Jennifer Coffindaffer said.
Were the girls carrying purses in the Grub truck video?
It would really depend on what sort of evidence of past "stalking" was being sought to be offered. In general, it would not be admissible. Regardless, the prosecution will need to file a motion for 404(b) evidence before trial to explain its reason, and of course the defense will be able to object and respond.Yes it can be used. I just saw Other Acts Evidence used in a trial last year. Prosecution filed a motion to use specific acts and defense filed motion arguing against using the specific acts. Some acts were allowed into trial by the judge.
IDAHO
Crimes, Wrongs, or Other Acts.
Permitted Uses; Notice in a Criminal Case.
Such as proving motive, opportunity, intent, preparation, plan, knowledge, identity, absence of mistake, or lack of accident.
In a criminal case, the prosecutor must:
(A) file and serve reasonable notice of the general nature of any such evidence that the prosecutor intends to offer at trial; and
(B) do so reasonably in advance of trial – or during trial if the court, for good cause shown, excuses lack of pretrial notice.
(Adopted March 26, 2018, effective July 1, 2018.)
Not familiar with the source, but the majority of the imagery appears factual.I'm reporting this post in case the site isn't allowed. It's the only one that makes it easier IMHO, Moo for me to see and understand the layout of the house. And I still have to go back to it fairly often to see specific things. I tend to hit the pause button and click on the rooms at my own pace. And two huge bonuses: one can view a couple of rooms in the dark, and one can zoom in, zoom out, and rotate the images to get a realistic view of what one would see from specific vantage points. To me the layout of this house isn't logical or intuitive, and I know I'd fail big time even if I'd looked at other floor plans, etc before hand. For that reason I believe the killer had been in the house before - possibly crashed a party or two. It's not logical or practical to go inside this particular house cold (or to know where any of the rooms were except for Maddie's because of her boots and M in her window). Edited for typo.
The link:
1122 King Road, Moscow, Idaho Tour
Thank you!
Sorry, that was worded oddly, The "her" in the bolded portion is DM
@maskedwoman Interesting thoughts. NN's phrasing* struck me as, well, unusual.
I would have to believe he PLANNED TO KILL that evening or nobody would be dead. I'm not sure a pattern of "hot prowling" if true really matters if this is a targeted crime, which IMO it clearly was.The article says the items were found in his car at his parent's home, PA. The article is a bit all over the place, but that's the bottom line.
The article ends in melodramatic fashion, with Coffindaffer calling it a "smoking license" and Geragos saying it would be a "hurdle" for the defense if presented in court, but (imo) those statements are only true if they found a victim's ID. The police wouldn't confirm details for them, so either their source wouldn't say whose ID it was or the police found a bunch of BK's old ID's and newsnation is full of it. I will admit that it seems very odd to me for anyone to keep a collection of their own old IDs in a glove, in a box, in their car. Why fill up your car's glove box with something like that?
I also can't see someone keeping one victim's ID bound together with a bunch of their own old IDs. So now I'm wondering who all these IDs belonged to. Maybe he collected lady's IDs. I think it was @10ofRods who suggested he was a "hot prowler", which I believe is someone who enters someone else's home while the owner is there, often asleep.
Incoming speculation: A new scenario has suddenly occurred to me. I wonder if he has a history of identifying women that are out of his league, hot prowling them (remembering him asking wait staff where they live), staring at them while they sleep, taking their IDs and some other things as trophies, etc. He might follow them home, watch them, and build up to the hot prowling. He might have even had a uniform for this, that included a knife. He might have found it exciting. I can see that making a somewhat invisible person feel powerful. He might have escalated to the point that killing became inevitable, and he the way things unfolded, he ending up killing more people than he planned for. Or maybe he didn't plan to kill anyone that night and Xana being awake, or the two girls being in the same room together, started a chain reaction he lost control of. <end speculation> MOOoooo
Sources: ID from Idaho killings found in Kohberger home searches
“It’s a big deal. That is a smoking license,” retired FBI agent Jennifer Coffindaffer said.
Thank you for sharing this! I'm rather diagram dyslexic (is that a thing?) and this helped because I was able to see just how the stairs worked. He could so expediently have gone in the sliding door, gone upstairs, killed K&M, and left imo jmo - why go to Xana's room? what made that happen? is she the one who said 'someone's here' and he panicked? Why skip DM's room? She is so lucky! I can't imagine the terror she must live with. imo jmo And why not just sneak out and leave unless X&E (or at least X) came face-to-face with him? Imo jmo
I've seen the update about the report. If true that the story was "muted" the other day, I can see why.
snipped for focus @jepop Yep, once again, great minds, etc. (But I type very s l o w l y.)
